GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #18

[Deleted member 363451]

It may be better for the children to know the full truth, ie that their mother tried to murder their father, several times. I really don't know.

I think her daughter is only 9 years old...

 

[Tortoise]

Well they do have the 6th Beef Wellington, or at least the photos and lab values showing it was poisoned, and she meant for him to come, and his doctor could testify to the previous attempts.

Plus her online searches for poisons, plus extremely relevant pattern evidence - it's only Simon whose digestive organs (intestines) failed, and who experienced poisoning symptoms such as paralysis, after eating 'family' meals prepared by Erin, she wasn't sick, and they all happened during a period of physical separation but at exceptional times when he was invited to be with Erin. His food was separated by tupperware, or in a wrap, or had a level of spice tailored to his taste, which is the same MO as preparing individual Wellingtons.

 

[dothetime]

Im not sure I believe Erin about that either.

Is the 3x murderer the elder or younger of the siblings?

 

[Detechtive]

Is the 3x murderer the elder or younger of the siblings?

Younger

 

[Detechtive]

I think her daughter is only 9 years old...

She's 11/12 now.

 

[Detechtive]

And at the end of the day, they were only online friends. None of them, including you, really knew her, but you had the brains to see that something wasn't right and also to do the right thing.

I don't know. I have met some amazing IRL friends online. I don't think meeting people online makes friendships or relationships any less serious, however, there is clearly room in "online relationships" for people to catfish, pretty much. I think this is what Erin did to all of us. She was not who she said she was, and seeing her on the tv for the first time, I couldn't reconcile it in my head. It wasn't the "Erin" we thought we knew.

 

[dothetime]

It may be better for the children to know the full truth, ie that their mother tried to murder their father, several times. I really don't know.

Their peers would have read about it on the internet, and they may have, too.

 

[Detechtive]

And she complained that he was laying around doing nothing whilst recovering from a mysterious illness and surgery/lengthy hospital stay that she most likely caused.
The absolute gall of her.
JMO

She actually said she "reluctantly looked after him" - yeah, only to re-poison him. IMO

 

[dothetime]

There is more to this story which I am sure will come out in Simons book/podcast/whatever he is doing.

Have decided to call the 3x murderer 'the offender' from now on!

 

[dothetime]

Cooee, Detechtive, do you still recall the online conversation you had with the offender about Grimms Fairy Tales?

 

[Kemug]

Their peers would have read about it on the internet, and they may have, too.

Yes, they may well have. So I think (only think) that in their position I would be furious if I was not told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

 

[Jake18]

I don't know. I have met some amazing IRL friends online. I don't think meeting people online makes friendships or relationships any less serious, however, there is clearly room in "online relationships" for people to catfish, pretty much. I think this is what Erin did to all of us. She was not who she said she was, and seeing her on the tv for the first time, I couldn't reconcile it in my head. It wasn't the "Erin" we thought we knew.

Out of interest, how would you have expected her to look/act?

 

[Detechtive]

Out of interest, how would you have expected her to look/act?

Much more confident, much more 'normal', not as overweight (not judging, I am not thin, either), more self-assured, more 'organised' looking. She looked disheveled in her media interview but i overlooked that due to the circumstances.

I guess, I expected her to look more "human".

She came across on her media interview as a liar, fake, lacking emotion, cold, and without empathy. I thought she would have 'faked' that better. By this point, I knew she was a psychopath, but I still imagined she would be more charming IRL.

Her body language was off the charts in regards to deceptive indicators. This is why everyone in the world went "wtf" when they saw it. It was very odd.

Prior, we had never seen videos of her - we ALL shared ourselves in videos, but she did not. She had only produced photos from when her children were born, and even then, I was nice and said she looked "nice" but, I remember seeing the chill in her eyes back then.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

I don't know. I have met some amazing IRL friends online. I don't think meeting people online makes friendships or relationships any less serious, however, there is clearly room in "online relationships" for people to catfish, pretty much. I think this is what Erin did to all of us. She was not who she said she was, and seeing her on the tv for the first time, I couldn't reconcile it in my head. It wasn't the "Erin" we thought we knew.

I suppose when you think about it even people we know in real life aren't who they say they are or pretend to be. I know that first hand...

 

[Jake18]

Much more confident, much more 'normal', not as overweight (not judging, I am not thin, either), more self-assured, more 'organised' looking. She looked disheveled in her media interview but i overlooked that due to the circumstances.

I guess, I expected her to look more "human".

She came across on her media interview as a liar, fake, lacking emotion, cold, and without empathy. I thought she would have 'faked' that better. By this point, I knew she was a psychopath, but I still imagined she would be more charming IRL.

Her body language was off the charts in regards to deceptive indicators. This is why everyone in the world went "wtf" when they saw it. It was very odd.

Prior, we had never seen videos of her - we ALL shared ourselves in videos, but she did not. She had only produced photos from when her children were born, and even then, I was nice and said she looked "nice" but, I remember seeing the chill in her eyes back then.

In her interviews I feel she lacked dignity. Must have been quite the contrast from her (presumably) highly literate and supercilious online presence.

 

[Deleted member 363451]

She actually said she "reluctantly looked after him" - yeah, only to re-poison him. IMO

I don't understand why she hated him so much.

 

[Warshawski]

Wouldn’t their tax records be accessible to both of them?
I wonder why he had an accountant if she is one?

I imagine it was because they were separated, and he was trying to move out from under her control, and to get on with his own life.

 

[Warshawski]

P.S I do kind of feel sorry for most of them though, even though they are ripping into me everywhere. They were groomed by Erin, and brainwashed, IMO. That is very confusing and traumatic. To think that you were friends with someone so capable of such heinous behaviour is traumatic.

Also, one of them in the group was threatening everyone not to talk to anyone about it outside the group, and not to go to the police. Also trying to intimidate witnesses online. Very stupid move.

I’ve often wondered if she could be likened to a Cult Leader. …

 

[Warshawski]

They were her sycophants. It was honestly like a cult, where Erin was the supreme leader.

I raised the question as to her being ‘cult leader’ like. .. so many behavioural traits in common imo.
Extremely dangerous on so many levels.

 

[Detechtive]

I raised the question as to her being ‘cult leader’ like. .. so many behavioural traits in common imo.
Extremely dangerous on so many levels.

I think with people like her, it is even more dangerous because it is so passive-agressive. At least, say, Charles Manson, you knew he was a cult leader and he abused women and it was quite typical of how a cult leader operates in a commune.

With Erin, it was slow indoctrination. Slow weaving of stories to manipulate everything. A total mind F* for lack of a better word, IMO