GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #19

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I for one am just so thankful that she has been stopped before she could do any more harm to her children. There would almost certainly have been problems as the children became teenagers and young adults - "I don't like your new boyfriend/girlfriend, let's ask him/her to lunch!" Shivers.
 
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I for one am just so thankful that she has been stopped before she could do any more harm to her children. There would almost certainly have been problems as the children became teenagers and young adults - "I don't like your new boyfriend/girlfriend, let's ask him/her to lunch!" Shivers.
The fact that she was poisoning Simon - the father of her children, shows that she shouldn't have even had the kids in her care...
 
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Erin Patterson: Mushroom victim Gail Patterson’s hospital comments revealed​


“Erin Patterson’s mother-in-law repeatedly questioned “why?” and mentioned her vomit had a strong taste of mushrooms after she was rushed to hospital.


In her police statement, Ms Terrington said Gail was “awake and conscious” throughout the night, and she helped her to the bathroom several times.

“She was in intense pain with diarrhoea and exhausted. Whilst she was experiencing the pain, she was saying ‘why?’ on repeat,” Ms Terrington said.


During pre-trial hearings, prosecutors argued Gail’s comments indicated how much pain she was in and provided a point of comparison to Patterson’s claimed illness.

But Patterson’s defence argued the comments were irrelevant to the trial and could lead to unfair prejudice.
In his ruling, Justice Christopher Beale found the meaning of Gail repeatedly questioning “why” was a matter of speculation.

“As such, it does not rationally make an ultimate fact in issue more probable and is inadmissible,” he wrote.

Similarly, he found Gail’s comment about the strange, strong taste of mushroom was also irrelevant and inadmissible at Patterson’s trial.”


 
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In his ruling, Justice Christopher Beale found the meaning of Gail repeatedly questioning “why” was a matter of speculation.

To put Gail's repeatedly asking "why?" into perspective:

Ms Terrington told police that she sat with her mother overnight on July 30 after Gail had been moved to Dandenong Hospital.

She said she was present as doctors told both her parents they suspected mushroom poisoning and would be undertaking toxicological testing.

Ms Terrington also noted that she was approached by a doctor at one point, in the presence of her mother, who asked her if she believed her brother Simon had previously been poisoned. [bbm]


Given that scenario, it's pretty apparent to me that she was asking why she had been poisoned!
 
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To put Gail's repeatedly asking "why?" into perspective:

Ms Terrington told police that she sat with her mother overnight on July 30 after Gail had been moved to Dandenong Hospital.

She said she was present as doctors told both her parents they suspected mushroom poisoning and would be undertaking toxicological testing.

Ms Terrington also noted that she was approached by a doctor at one point, in the presence of her mother, who asked her if she believed her brother Simon had previously been poisoned.


Given that scenario, it's pretty apparent to me that she was asking why she had been poisoned!

Thank you @JBowie - I was trying to not go over the % limit of posting articles. 📰 ✂️
 
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The fact that she was poisoning Simon - the father of her children, shows that she shouldn't have even had the kids in her care...
Not to mention cooking poison cookies with her daughter who gave them to him!
 
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Not to mention cooking poison cookies with her daughter who gave them to him!
Just imagine if Simon had of had one and offered one to his daughter?
 
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Given that scenario, it's pretty apparent to me that she was asking why she had been poisoned!

As well, her husband suspected they were poisoned, it seems. Something the Pattersons may have discussed between themselves during the first night of their extreme illness. imo


(from an earlier article)
Don Patterson was so certain he had been poisoned at the July 2023 lunch he arrived at hospital with a container of his own vomit for medical professionals to test.
 
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I think that her fortunate life circumstances will be under the microscope during sentencing. She may say she suffered “trauma” but really, she was born to financially comfortable, educated, Caucasian parents. Her background is not indigenous. She came from a two-parent family. I can’t see any aspect with which she would have had it hard or struggled with unfortunate circumstances in her childhood, adolescence and/or early adulthood that would in any way account for the crimes that she committed. She wasn’t raised in poverty, she wasn’t a migrant child, and she wasn’t in out -of-home care or foster care as a child.

If I recall correctly - she went to PLC, a renowned ladies college, for her schooling. Erin had many opportunities to extend herself and get more of an education as both an adolescent and an adult.

I understand that as a middle aged woman, both of her parents died, but it’s not uncommon to have one or both parents pass away as a middle-aged adult. I don’t think that would qualify her as having undergone any special hardship.

We have heard that her parents died of natural causes, so I don’t think that qualifies as anything specifically heinous for the judge to consider in sentencing. It’s not like her parents died as victims of a crime, for example.


So to your point: What was hard about Erin’s life? Nothing, really.

What was her issue: I think her issue is that she’s really angry, mentally unstable and has a delusion that everyone is out to get her. She also has a delusion that she is sick and she has medical problems that she doesn’t actually have.

Erin’s issue is Erin.

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@Ellery84

This is so true!
 
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Just imagine if Simon had of had one and offered one to his daughter?
I think that's why the cookies were offered for his trip to Brisbane.
 
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she was born to financially comfortable, educated, Caucasian parents.

... and inherited some $2 million from her grandmother and about $1 million from her mother (you know, "the cold robot")
 
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What if....... Erin somehow knew Simon suspected her?
 
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What if....... Erin somehow knew Simon suspected her?

You'd think that possibility would have crossed her mind given the number of alleged attempts. However, I get the impression she considered him somewhat of a fool.
 
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You'd think that possibility would have crossed her mind given the number of alleged attempts. However, I get the impression she considered him somewhat of a fool.
I wonder if she had cottoned on, because some of the family had started treating her differently.

"I'll show them who is in control"
JMO
 
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I wonder if she had cottoned on, because some of the family had started treating her differently.

"I'll show them who is in control"
JMO

Something triggered her to decide to hell with all of them, that's for sure.
 
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I wonder if she had cottoned on, because some of the family had started treating her differently.

"I'll show them who is in control"
JMO
And yet his family went to her lunch, supposedly knowing that she'd tried to poison Simon in the past...
 
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