GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #20

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  • #821
Now that the sentencing is finished I can reveal that Erin has a complex criminal history she wasn’t charged for. At all jobs I am aware of, she was “moved on” for embezzlement, fraud, etc. including at the department of Treasury. No charges were filed.

She also had an extensive history of stalking individuals she housed with and was associated with - both online and in person.
I’ve spoken to some of them.

And I’ve got extensive screenshots of her communications with a family member where she admits to criminal activity around controlled substances.

I believe (without proof) that Simon was taking notes on all of this for a custody battle and divorce which goes to motive. IMO

Because I didn’t testify due to illness (Erin’s friends are saying I was scared to testify - I wasn’t - I was literally having my body cut open and had multiple organs operated on and removed, and wasn’t well enough to appear due to being in multiple surgeries and on opiates in recovery and my doctor wouldn’t allow me to), these facts weren’t presented in court. I was meant to be the prosecutions character witness against her “clean history”.

She’s maligned family her entire life, including bullying at least 2 people I’m aware of to suicide attempts or near suicide - one family member spent time in a psychiatric hospital as a result.

There is also speculation that she tried to poison other family members and I’m sure this will be revealed in time.

IMO, She is evil incarnate, and no, this isn’t a personal crusade or bias. Even when my friends were originally saying “she did it for sure” I went through all facts procedurally and ruled out any other possible innocent scenario, even though I knew in my bones that she was capable of murder. I offered her objectivity even after knowing how toxic and deranged she is.

Edit: also one of her main supporters - she told me in personal messages that she is “dumb” and “a complete moron”.
This is how Erin Rolled. Duplicitous in the extreme.

IMO
Do you know why embezzlement charges were never filed against her? Were her employers scared of her?
 
  • #822
"There were no psychiatric or psychological reports provided."

Just as I expected. IMO there was no way she would submit to any such examination -- although, having been sentenced, she will be assessed now as is usual standard prison practice.

"No references from character witnesses."

Why are we not surprised?
Shouldn't psych reports have been mandatory?
 
  • #823
I get "page not found", but is this the "Gordon" section that I think is the solitary confinement section? Is it the one that has a courtyard that adjoins the one holding the ISIS terrorist inmate?
So this means that she won't get access to the swimming pool or tennis courts at that prison?
 
  • #824
So this means that she won't get access to the swimming pool or tennis courts at that prison?
My heart just bleeds for her. /s
 
  • #825
Ian Wilkinson said..
"In regards to the murder of Heather, Gail and Don - I am compelled to seek justice.

"However, I encourage Erin to receive my offer of forgiveness for those harms done to me with full confession and repentance."
..
As I am not well up on a lot of the laws in courts, (so forgive me for asking, as so many of you lovely people here are very knowledgeable).

I am wondering since now Erin Patterson has been given her sentence.. If say she now has taken on board what Ian said, and she decides to come clean and admit her guilt and show remorse (which we all know she is guilty of what she has been sentenced for) so she can at least get his forgiveness, would she be taken back to court about her now guilty plea!.

And if that did happen would that change her sentence in any way?.
I don't see that ever happening. She isn't the least bit remorseful. She wanted them all dead, and it was clear in the hospital that she had no interest in their conditions, nor volunteering that the mushrooms were foraged. She was only ever out to save her own skin.
 
  • #826
I’m shocked that she only got 33 years. IMO her sentence should have been life, never to be released.
Agreed. I don't understand Australian laws taking prison conditions into account. That's a separate issue for criminal justice reform.
 
  • #827
If Beale gave her life with no parole, she would have appealed it.

IMO
That happens with most convictions in the US, few are overturned.
 
  • #828
Being eligible for parole doesn't mean it will be granted. I think that even if she is in her eighties (assuming she lives that long) she will still be extremely dangerous. The judge noted her lack of remorse: that won't change no matter how long she's incarcerated. Sorry she got caught? Yes. Sorry she took innocent people's lives? Nope.
Agreed. There's nothing to stop her from poisoning someone when she's in her 80's. Doesn't require physical strength like strangling or stabbing someone does. And Dorothea Puente did it as an old woman.
 
  • #829
What was the point she tried to make by tapping twice on the table on her way out?
Keeping her eyes closed was her way of showing contempt but I have no idea why she chose to tap on tables on her way out.
Such a strange and sinister person.
Fifty year old Erin is a danger to everyone who comes in contact with her, 83 year old Erin will still be just as dangerous.
No remorse, no redemption.
Trying to blame the media for her infamy- as though "I see you". It's her only way to send a message now- that and crocheted rats.
 
  • #830
Shouldn't psych reports have been mandatory?
The Defence doesn't need to submit a psych profile if it doesn't help their case, I believe.
 
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Agreed. I don't understand Australian laws taking prison conditions into account. That's a separate issue for criminal justice reform.
Agree. She has a roof over her head, and at least 3 square meals a day.

More than her victims were afforded.
 
  • #833
Shouldn't the prosecution then?
I think the prison does a physical and mental health check, and that's it.
The individual could possibly refuse a complete psych profile, but I'm unsure.
 
  • #834
Shouldn't the prosecution then?

This is what Justice Beale said (this article provides Beale's complete sentencing remarks, in full).
This is also the part where Justice Beale says that the defence approach would have been based on Erin's instructions.

Circumstances of offender

I turn then to your circumstances.

The information I was provided about your personal history was minimal. Your counsel simply relied on the personal history you provided in your trial testimony. There were no psychiatric or psychological reports provided. No references from character witnesses.

No doubt, that approach to your plea hearing was based on your instructions, but it means the account of your personal history that I am about to give is limited.

 
  • #835
If Beale gave her life with no parole, she would have appealed it.

IMO
She is appealing anyway. She has nothing more to lose. She still maintains it was a terrible accident.
 
  • #836
She is appealing anyway. She has nothing more to lose. She still maintains it was a terrible accident.

And when it comes time for her first parole hearing (at 80+ years old), she may do what other prisoners do and find some "remorse" for her actions.

imo
 
  • #837
I’m shocked that she only got 33 years. IMO her sentence should have been life, never to be released.
I doubt she will last 33 years. Solitary confinement for 22+ hours a day, with very limited exercise. She will likely go mad, with only herself to talk to and little exercise. Moo.
 
  • #838
I just love this……



“Meals and medicine are delivered through a flap in Patterson's cell door.”

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The reality of where she is going to spend the next 30+ years. I don't think this was an intentional plan to downsize 🤔. Terrible retirement planning.
You reap what you sow, and the seeds she planted have been harvested.

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  • #839
Simon Patterson, the estranged husband of Erin Patterson, was a notable absence at today's sentencing hearing.

He was a last-minute withdrawal from the fatal lunch in 2023, and later told police he had fallen seriously ill after eating his wife's cooking.

Mr Patterson gave evidence at the trial but is yet to conduct any media interviews.

He is expected to break his silence on his own terms — as part of his own multi-episode podcast series.

The ABC understands Mr Patterson will be interviewed by Jess O'Donnell, a public relations consultant who has been working with him for at least a year.

The series has not yet been recorded but could be released before the end of the year.





Be very interesting to see to what detail he would go into!
I believe he’s currently overseas IMO
 
  • #840
I doubt she will last 33 years. Solitary confinement for 22+ hours a day, with very limited exercise. She will likely go mad, with only herself to talk to and little exercise. Moo.
IMO she already is mad and a classic example of someone who was born bad.
 
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