GUILTY Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 *Arrest* #21

[Detechtive]

(pay-walled)

After reading Peter Craven's review here in The Australian, this is not a book that I will bother with.

"Literary giant Helen Garner joins two other writers for an unexpected perspective on Erin Patterson, who is appealing her murder conviction."

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/culture/poison-pen-a-new-take-on-the-mushroom-trial/news-story/71a3524e354666dfddaa45dab5be4bf5

The Mushroom Tapes: Conversations on a Triple Murder Trial : Krasnostein, Sarah, Hooper, Chloe: Amazon.com.au: Books

The Mushroom Tapes: Conversations on a Triple Murder Trial : Krasnostein, Sarah, Hooper, Chloe: Amazon.com.au: Books

www.amazon.com.au

Im not interested in hearing writers talk about the trial.

Or any “friends” who are writing books, for that matter.

I think Erin is a psychopath and should spend the rest of her miserable life in prison. She’s done enough and she’s not interesting at all.

Cannot wait to put it all behind me.

IMO

 

[JBowie]

Im not interested in hearing writers talk about the trial.

Or any “friends” who are writing books, for that matter.

I will be very interested in anything that Simon Patterson chooses to write/publish.

 

[Eloise]

I really have no interest in reading books about the case by people who just have random opinions. Like, all due respect to authors generally, but why would anyone give a rats about what Helen Garner or any other writer thinks about it? Its just a cash grab. I don't rate it. Their opinions and 'unexpected perspectives' are of no value. JMO.

I'd read a book by Simon Patterson.

 

[JLZ]

I really have no interest in reading books about the case by people who just have random opinions. Like, all due respect to authors generally, but why would anyone give a rats about what Helen Garner or any other writer thinks about it? Its just a cash grab. I don't rate it. Their opinions and 'unexpected perspectives' are of no value. JMO.

I'd read a book by Simon Patterson.

BBM. I'm interested in Websleuths members' opinions; that's why I'm here. I don't know why an author's opinion would necessarily be of less value and interest.

 

[BreakingNews]

After Allison

BBM. I'm interested in Websleuths members' opinions; that's why I'm here. I don't know why an author's opinion would necessarily be of less value and interest.

After Allison Dicky's husband, Gerard Baden Clay was charged with her murder, a great book was written by a journalist who was a court reporter on the case. He even quoted some of Websleuth's comments. However, reading a book about Erin does not interest me. Nor would I read a book written by Simon. Sorry, it just doesn't interest me.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

BBM. I'm interested in Websleuths members' opinions; that's why I'm here. I don't know why an author's opinion would necessarily be of less value and interest.

I'd ask, why is it of more value or interest, just because they write for a living?

Sure, the words might flow well, and they'd paint a realistic picture, but that's all in my opinion. They don't necessarily have an edge, an insight or additional knowledge compared to the regular person on the street.

 

[JLZ]

I'd ask, why is it of more value or interest, just because they write for a living?

Sure, the words might flow well, and they'd paint a realistic picture, but that's all in my opinion. They don't necessarily have an edge, an insight or additional knowledge compared to the regular person on the street.

I didn't say more, I said not less. In response to a strong expression of contempt.

 

[SouthAussie]

(pay-walled)

After reading Peter Craven's review here in The Australian, this is not a book that I will bother with.

"Literary giant Helen Garner joins two other writers for an unexpected perspective on Erin Patterson, who is appealing her murder conviction."

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/culture/poison-pen-a-new-take-on-the-mushroom-trial/news-story/71a3524e354666dfddaa45dab5be4bf5

The Mushroom Tapes: Conversations on a Triple Murder Trial : Krasnostein, Sarah, Hooper, Chloe: Amazon.com.au: Books

The Mushroom Tapes: Conversations on a Triple Murder Trial : Krasnostein, Sarah, Hooper, Chloe: Amazon.com.au: Books

www.amazon.com.au

Just want to say that it is a positive review of the book (for those who cannot read that article).

He ends the review with a comment about people will find it hard to put down, if they read it. And that the book will be read around the world as a credible account of one of the strangest cases that ever came before the courts.

imo

 

[HoneyBunOne]

I didn't say more, I said not less. In response to a strong expression of contempt.

Gotcha.

 

[Kemug]

BBM. I'm interested in Websleuths members' opinions; that's why I'm here. I don't know why an author's opinion would necessarily be of less value and interest.

Or more.

 

[BreakingNews]

Just want to say that it is a positive review of the book (for those who cannot read that article).

He ends the review with a comment about people will find it hard to put down, if they read it. And that the book will be read around the world as a credible account of one of the strangest cases that ever came before the courts.

imo

No doubt the book will be well written and researched. However we have a very good insider in this group. And the discussions are priceless, even if we don't agree always. Reading a book about a crime is very different from discussing it here.

 

[Eloise]

I'd ask, why is it of more value or interest, just because they write for a living?

Sure, the words might flow well, and they'd paint a realistic picture, but that's all in my opinion. They don't necessarily have an edge, an insight or additional knowledge compared to the regular person on the street.

Right, to me an author might write well but their opinion is meaningless. I might as well ask my neighbour what they think. I care as much about their opinion as an author's.

As for Websleuther's opinions, sure they can be interesting. But they're also *free* and they're not trying to sell me anything.

I don't need premium opinions when the free ones do quite well. Its the same as when they hurry out a 'documentary' that's actually just a bunch of journalists doing talking heads and they don't say anything you can't read online for free. Just a cash grab.

I'd pay premium for new access to facts, assuming those facts weren't obtainable online for free.

 

[SouthAussie]

I wasn't suggesting anyone read the book. I just added that the (paywalled) review was a good review, is all.

Probably a good read for some.

I have bypassed The Mushroom Murderer (different book, same case) in my Kindle selections because I don't really want to read any rehash of what has happened.

imo

 

[Kemug]

Actually (but I may be biased!) I think all of us here write very well.

 

[MsMarple]

I wasn't suggesting anyone read the book. I just added that the (paywalled) review was a good review, is all.

Probably a good read for some.

I have bypassed The Mushroom Murderer (different book, same case) in my Kindle selections because I don't really want to read any rehash of what has happened.

imo

I can see the value of a well written book for folks who didn’t immerse themselves in the case. For example, I found the book about Sylvia Likens’ life, death and the subsequent trial informative since it occurred when I was young and hadn’t followed the case. Currently I’m reading Devil in the White City, about H. H. Holmes and the Chicago World’s Fair. A good read.

But like many of you I was here early on in Erin’s case so there’s little in the public domain that I’ve missed. Barring some previously unknown shocker, what more do I need to know?
JMO

 

[dm799]

Anyone know when Simon's podcast is coming out?

 

[LinasK]

Or more.

It's like a movie critic. Why should their opinion of a movie hold any more or less value than mine? I ignore movie critic opinions for that very reason.

 

[Detechtive]

I will be very interested in anything that Simon Patterson chooses to write/publish.

Agree! His podcast is coming out this month

 

[Detechtive]

BBM. I'm interested in Websleuths members' opinions; that's why I'm here. I don't know why an author's opinion would necessarily be of less value and interest.

Because they’re only writing books and articles based on what is known publicly - it’s boring to me.

The interesting story is Erin’s past and philosophy / psychology in my opinion (her criminal profile) and none of them including her recent friends know anything about that. They spoke about superficial things and none of them dug deep, and none of them have done the work that people on Websleuths - who I have personally found to be very astute, intelligent and investigative (as a general rule) would find up to par.

It’s boring (generally in true crime) when people jump on the bandwagon to make a quick buck off pretending to know Erin or being experts in any “popular” criminal matter. In my opinion.

There’s many authors of books and journalists, along with major news networks who have contacted me and my friends for our insight and history with Erin. The only “new” info I’ve seen in the current books was shared by me and two of my close friends who knew Erin online.

Not one of these authors, journos, et al was interested in actually understanding or doing deep work to establish her history and pathology - they’re only interested in capitalising off her name for a quick book deal or click bait headline - seriously it’s been so disturbing and eye opening.

It’s my opinion that the majority don’t understand the true crime market at all. They still market towards men with their black and red book covers, and they still underestimate the intelligence of the mostly women who are 40+ in this market. Nobody I know in my age group (40+, female) who is a die hard true crime fan and intelligent wants to read the crap coming from these authors.

Helen Garner is an exceptional writer, but I’m totally uninterested in reading this book because it’s commentary on the trial which we all got a blow by blow on through the over saturation in the media. Yawn!

As for one of her friends writing a book about her - no thanks. They didn’t even have the insight to know their best friend was unhinged and as such, they have nothing of value to share.

Myself personally is very interested in hearing from Simon publicly, and seeing the ordeal he’s experienced with Erin the psychopath.

IMO

 

[Detechtive]

I shall comment more openly on these themes in the near future - unfortunately due to a court matter with one of Erin’s flying monkey friends who has harassed and bullied me for 5 years, and is now doing it through the court system, I’m unable to more freely comment right now. (My comments on WS have seriously upset them)! But I have filed a cross application and will see justice to the end