I wonder if the bit about neither of them living to see court meant he would end both of their lives before that happened?I think he's got a big ego and thinks he can outwit LE. TB appears to be simpler and might try to enter a plea deal.
BOTH of them charged with Murder.I wonder if the bit about neither of them living to see court meant he would end both of their lives before that happened?
Just a thought. In hindsight it reads a bit that way. MOO. TB certainly has a problem with violence herself, so I think either one could have ended Pheobe's life.
I agree. At this stage both charged with murder but we may see one of their charges downgraded in the future, or may not. Only time will tell.I wonder if the bit about neither of them living to see court meant he would end both of their lives before that happened?
Just a thought. In hindsight it reads a bit that way. MOO. TB certainly has a problem with violence herself, so I think either one could have ended Pheobe's life.
Thank you! You are charged with the crimes they have evidence to prove.BOTH of them charged with Murder.
BOTH of them murdered her.
Can't be charging someone with murder without strong evidence.
Police know more than the public.
They have enough evidence to charge both with PB murder.
Even though there is no body at the moment
Lots of information still to come out
And that’s what makes this even more sickening. They are parents..! A 17 year old girl ….I agree. At this stage both charged with murder but we may see one of their charges downgraded in the future, or may not. Only time will tell.
I also feel for TB and JWs children in all this. Seems they both have young children.
I think he was referring to the public harming them, not him.I wonder if the bit about neither of them living to see court meant he would end both of their lives before that happened?
Just a thought. In hindsight it reads a bit that way. MOO. TB certainly has a problem with violence herself, so I think either one could have ended Pheobe's life.
Perhaps police found the phone yesterday.Could it have been law enforcement accessing PBs social media and showing as online or would they be able to do it more discreetly?
Otherwise assuming it was the two in custody IMO
Maybe I'm not speaking clearly enough about what I mean, or maybe it is a difference in laws in different places (likely) or something I've confused? I will try again:BOTH of them charged with Murder.
BOTH of them murdered her.
Can't be charging someone with murder without strong evidence.
Police know more than the public.
They have enough evidence to charge both with PB murder.
Even though there is no body at the moment
Lots of information still to come out
Maybe I'm not speaking clearly enough about what I mean, or maybe it is a difference in laws in different places (likely) or something I've confused? I will try again:
Someone actually ended her life. Both of them could have agreed to do something terrible, but logically I would think one of them actually did, or did more, i.e. carried out the act--whatever it was--itself. Is this more clear?
I'm personally not clear if anyone is an accessory, or something else, but it doesn't seem it from the discussion? Is that correct? Would they both be charged with murder if one actually took Pheobe's life and the other simply did not prevent it from happening? I'm assuming that would be a different charge, but just checking?
I have a sick feeling something really disturbing happened now, where before I thought it was simply an outburst and an accidental death. Poor kid.![]()
If JW and TB agreed to commit this crime against Pheobe and acted together, both can be charged with murder, even if only one physically caused her death. For example, one might have restrained her while the other struck her, or one might have helped plan the act while the other executed it. Both are equally liable for murder under the Queensland Criminal Code, which holds co offenders responsible for acts done in a shared plan.Maybe I'm not speaking clearly enough about what I mean, or maybe it is a difference in laws in different places (likely) or something I've confused? I will try again:
Someone actually ended her life. Both of them could have agreed to do something terrible, but logically I would think one of them actually did, or did more, i.e. carried out the act--whatever it was--itself. Is this more clear?
I'm personally not clear if anyone is an accessory, or something else, but it doesn't seem it from the discussion? Is that correct? Would they both be charged with murder if one actually took Pheobe's life and the other simply did not prevent it from happening? I'm assuming that would be a different charge, but just checking?
I have a sick feeling something really disturbing happened now, where before I thought it was simply an outburst and an accidental death. Poor kid.![]()
Thank you! This is very helpfulIf JW and TB agreed to commit this crime against Pheobe and acted together, both can be charged with murder, even if only one physically caused her death. For example, one might have restrained her while the other struck her, or one might have helped plan the act while the other executed it. Both are equally liable for murder under the Queensland Criminal Code, which holds co offenders responsible for acts done in a shared plan.
Section 8 holds co offenders liable if they form a common intention to commit a crime and an offense (like murder) occurs as a probable consequence of their plan, even if one didn’t directly intend the death.
She had the chance last week, but didn't take it. Unless police kept it quiet. Pheobe needs to be found, now.Agree. She will be wanting a shorter sentence so will plead guilty, her conscience will get the better of her and squeal like a pig.
Hopefully a murder charge will change that and get her talking.She had the chance last week, but didn't take it. Unless police kept it quiet. Pheobe needs to be found, now.