Australia Australia - Pheobe Bishop, 17, failed to board a flight from Queensland, Bundaberg, 15 May 2025 *Arrests* #3

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That’s how I interpret it too.

According to JW he and TB got out of the vehicle near Airport Dr and walked away to give PB time to “do what she needed to do” and upon returning to the car she was gone - so in JW’s version 3 people arrived near the airport and exited the car in that location, but police will allege that 3 people did NOT exit the vehicle, possibly meaning PB was killed before JW and TB got out to take their walk.

AMOO
Looks like a neaiti

I've had a long think about these words. Police have to be so careful what they can say after an arrest. I think it means 3 people went in the car towards the airport, and Pheobe never got out for her flight. Hence no-one exited the vehicle at that time.
 
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That’s how I interpret it too.

According to JW he and TB got out of the vehicle near Airport Dr and walked away to give PB time to “do what she needed to do” and upon returning to the car she was gone - so in JW’s version 3 people arrived near the airport and exited the car in that location, but police will allege that 3 people did NOT exit the vehicle, possibly meaning PB was killed before JW and TB got out to take their walk.

AMOO
It was such a strange statement and as we have seen, there are so many different ways to interpret it. It was obviously a very calculated statement.
 
  • #884
And why is that?
Is the reason the climate or what?
I find it interesting!
Usually to allow air to circulate in the heat. Sometimes the underneath is concreted and used in summer for having a beer after work etc.
 
  • #885
It was such a strange statement and as we have seen, there are so many different ways to interpret it. It was obviously a very calculated statement.
Yes its how I interpreted it

JW said he and TB got out of the car to let PB calm down and that they walked a few minutes, went back to the car and she was gone. They assumed she went to terminal.

CCTV would show only 2 getting out of the car on Airport Rd

Police, " we will allege 3 people were seen in the car"
* Seen on CCTV in another location*



And at the airport

Police - "3 people did not exit the vehicle "

Only TB and JW were seen on CCTV on airport Dr

PB was possibly murdered before even reaching Bundy Airport
 
  • #886
Yes its how I interpreted it

JW said he and TB got out of the car to let PB calm down and that they walked a few minutes, went back to the car and she was gone. They assumed she went to terminal.

CCTV would show only 2 getting out of the car on Airport Rd

Police, " we will allege 3 people were seen in the car"
* Seen on CCTV in another location*



And at the airport

Police - "3 people did not exit the vehicle "

Only TB and JW were seen on CCTV on airport Dr

PB was possibly murdered before even reaching Bundy Airport
The detective confirmed that PB was seen alive on CCTV near the airport then made mention of the BMX track. He didn't exactly say at the BMX track. I think he said near the airport before the BMX track. I tried to go back and listen to find the statement again yesterday but didn't quite get there.
 
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The detective confirmed that PB was seen alive on CCTV near the airport then made mention of the BMX track. He didn't exactly say at the BMX track. I think he said near the airport before the BMX track. I tried to go back and listen to find the statement again yesterday but didn't quite get there.
Can you confirm what this building is please?
i cant quite make out if its residential or a gear shed for what looks like sports fields?
 
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The pieces of this horrendous puzzle are slowly coming together.

1. We now know that the house was not the place of the alleged murder.
2. We know that the call made to PB's boyfriend was made by her.
3. We know that the PB's body was moved twice
4. Neither of the accused handed themselves in to the police.


We also have JW latest statement to the media which revealed a few details that, along with previously-verified information, should be considered likely;

A) JW was driving the vehicle. TB was in the front passenger seat and PB in the back.

B) JW has previously committed acts of DV against TB yet during the 3 week period where both were being interviewed and subsequently arrested, TB did not attempt to roll on JW and utilize a DV defence. This despite the magistrate declaring that TB was not a risk of reacquainting herself with JW (inferring a disharmony amongst the two)

C) Police were initially inaccurate with their first search, later stating that they searched a similar access track 9kms away from their first attempt. This would indicate that they were tipped off to the location but not directly shown where to look. This is critical information and should not be overlooked. Most likely an anonymous phone call, but someone gave them a description of the area.


Again, my theory as follows:

The argument escalated to the point where JW approached the airport terminal but drove straight past it. This may have been to enrage PB or to assert control. He then turned around at the BMX club just past the airport. This sent PB into a panic and she most likely tried to exit but was unable to do so. As the journey progressed back to the main road PB possibly attempted to break free which resulted in an enraged TB attacking her inside the vehicle (what with is unknown). With the two fighting in the car (PB most likely being overpowered by the much larger TB) JW pulls off onto Samuels road (30 second drive from airport Rd) and pulls the vehicle over. PB met her demise here. She was then taken to the first dumping ground and disposed of in a hurry. She was relocated to a more discreet location at a later date.

TB was the instigator and primary culprit. This is why she has not turned on JW.
This was not premeditated as I've discussed previously. This was reactionary. There was no rendering PB unconscious and/or binding and gagging as it this would require planning. If police suspected this they would add kidnapping to the charge of murder.

I will further speculate that PB was most likely strangled/choked to death. Limited space inside the vehicle, weight disparity between her and the accused and the lack of suitable evidence to charge from the first impoundment of the vehicle suggests a clean homicide. A struggle would definitely occured but evidence of a struggle wouldn't look to dissimilar to the state the vehicle was generally kept by the accused


This post of yours is very very interesting. Very insightful.

I'd be very interested if this is actually 100% what happened that day when the court hearing comes up.

Also could you please provide a link to the DV against TB

We've all speculated on this.
It would be great to see the link to this and put that one to bed.
 
  • #889
This post of yours is very very interesting. Very insightful.

I'd be very interested if this is actually 100% what happened that day when the court hearing comes up.

Also could you please provide a link to the DV against TB

We've all speculated on this.
It would be great to see the link to this and put that one to bed.
Its in the comments made by the judge at her bail hearing for the weapons charges

 
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The closest visible traffic cam is on the intersection of airport drive and state route 3.
I think someone else mentioned this prior.
Its still "near the BMX track" at 350m IMOO
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Can you confirm what this building is please?
i cant quite make out if its residential or a gear shed for what looks like sports fields?
I have just looked at the maps and there are sports pitches all around it so my bet would be changing rooms for rugby, football etc
 
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Tialeigh is not a great example. She was in care from a young age due to problems in her family household and was killed at the age of 12 (I think) by her foster carer who was concerned she’d become pregnant to their son. Totally different scenario.

PB’s mum doesn’t fit the profile of a person who doesn’t care about their teen, who wants to relinquish or abandon them. Even in hindsight. They’re a totally different breed. 🥴
What could have happened though is PB didn’t comply with rules and boundaries in that home and they had a disagreement and she was told that she knows where the door is if she’s not willing to do those things expected of her. In my experience, many, many adolescents these days, take that as being “kicked out” and “asked to leave”.
It’s tricky to speculate when there are no facts known about what happened between PB and her mum, and I think it’s unfair on the family.
Teenagers need restrictions in place and guidance; the part of their brain that deals with risk isn't fully developed until much older. Being left to their own devices at that age isn't the smartest thing to do, but we've discussed on here previously that some kids are out of control at that age, and the only way they seem to learn is from their own mistakes.

I grew up in a similar household, and I look back over my life, and I'm lucky to be here. Add another level of complexity to PB's case, with her gender.

I can recall I skipped school one day with a friend who was 2 years older than me (13 and 15), we decided to ride our bikes to a swimming hole as we had done many times before. So that our parents didn't know we had been swimming all day, we decided to go swimming in our underwear as it takes much less time for them to dry. As we're swimming, an older man turns up in his 40s and starts talking to us, and the conversation turns to, "do you want any beers?"

Not sure what got into my friend's head but he said "yes", the man asked him to get the beers out of his car that was parked about 40 meters away. I was still in the water at this point, this man strips naked and comes beside me and says, " it's OK you can take your underwear off if you want to". As soon as I heard this, my gut feeling said something was bad and I got out of the water. If that guy wanted to, he could have overpowered me and drowned me in a matter of seconds.

My friend drank the beer, and soon after we left. In his household, it wasn't uncommon at the time that adults would offer him a beer. I think the size of my friend may have been a deterrent for this man, but things could have ended much worse than they did that day. No one would have even known where to look for us, because we never told anyone where we were.

"Risk taking increases during the transition from childhood to adolescence due to the changes in the brain’s socio-emotional system, following puberty. This period is marked by heightened reward-seeking and sensation seeking, especially in the presence of peers, driven by a significant remodelling of the brain’s dopaminergic system, which is crucial for emotional and motivational regulation (Steinberg, 2008)."

 
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I am not sure sorry. I am not local. Maybe ask @scepticalscotty

It does look like sports changing rooms of some sort. Is it maybe the BMX club rooms. Ill have a look at the map
Ah so sorry I think that was actually my original intention and Ive replied to the incorrect comment.
 
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Teenagers need restrictions in place and guidance; the part of their brain that deals with risk isn't fully developed until much older. Being left to their own devices at that age isn't the smartest thing to do, but we've discussed on here previously that some kids are out of control at that age, and the only way they seem to learn is from their own mistakes.

I grew up in a similar household, and I look back over my life, and I'm lucky to be here. Add another level of complexity to PB's case, with her gender.

I can recall I skipped school one day with a friend who was 2 years older than me (13 and 15), we decided to ride our bikes to a swimming hole as we had done many times before. So that our parents didn't know we had been swimming all day, we decided to go swimming in our underwear as it takes much less time for them to dry. As we're swimming, an older man turns up in his 40s and starts talking to us, and the conversation turns to, "do you want any beers?"

Not sure what got into my friend's head but he said "yes", the man asked him to get the beers out of his car that was parked about 40 meters away. I was still in the water at this point, this man strips naked and comes beside me and says, " it's OK you can take your underwear off if you want to". As soon as I heard this, my gut feeling said something was bad and I got out of the water. If that guy wanted to, he could have overpowered me and drowned me in a matter of seconds.

My friend drank the beer, and soon after we left. In his household, it wasn't uncommon at the time that adults would offer him a beer. I think the size of my friend may have been a deterrent for this man, but things could have ended much worse than they did that day. No one would have even known where to look for us, because we never told anyone where we were.

"Risk taking increases during the transition from childhood to adolescence due to the changes in the brain’s socio-emotional system, following puberty. This period is marked by heightened reward-seeking and sensation seeking, especially in the presence of peers, driven by a significant remodelling of the brain’s dopaminergic system, which is crucial for emotional and motivational regulation (Steinberg, 2008)."

I agree. I myself was in some questionable situations as a teenage girl. I can also hand on heart say my parents should have given more of a 🤬🤬🤬🤬 about what I was doing and that as a parent myself now I would never allow my children to be in those situations at the same age.
 
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Good spotting and likely the Liberty petrol station would have some form of CCTV
Safe to say that would be the "near BMX track" for sure. Unfortunately streetview doesnt even have construction started.
 
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Its in the comments made by the judge at her bail hearing for the weapons charges

Yep that's the May 27 writeup

No mention it was JW

" she may have been subject to "coercion, violence and duress"



From previous post:
B) JW has previously committed acts of DV against TB


We have all heard the "rumour" JW had committed DV against TB.

Just trying to get clarity on factual links of this , so we can all put that one to bed.
 
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Yep that's the May 27 writeup

No mention it was JW

" she may have been subject to "coercion, violence and duress"



From previous post:
B) JW has previously committed acts of DV against TB


We have all heard the "rumour" JW had committed DV against TB.

Just trying to get clarity on factual links of this , so we can all put that one to bed.
Without any formal charges the judges words are all we have (aside from family comments which we can't discuss on here). I would say that the very next sentence after that was that she was to have no contact with JW paints a pretty clear picture of what he is referring to. But he doesn't explicitly say it or if he did, it wasn't printed in the media.
 
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