Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) #79

[SouthAussie]

An example of bad reporting.
The people who were without cars registered in their names and those without a licence were only eliminated from one list…. Which was the list of people who were able to be linked to cars…. They were not eliminated as such, they were moved to another list, Sgt Robyn Ross explained that she most certainly realised that people could be driving without a licence, or driving someone else’s car. I heard this when I was at the Inquest today.

Re: bad reporting ...... one thing I learned from Dan Box this morning is that a daily court reporter has about 400 words that they are allowed (by their publication) in which to report the events. I guess that is why some cannot go into as much detail as should or could be provided.

Dan was specifically speaking of the opposing things that the police said under oath - and how he thought it was a big deal, but how it wasn't reported on at the time. (It is at around the 20min mark in my previous link to the I Catch Killers 2nd podcast with Dan Box)

 

[Warshawski]

Abuse warning as missing toddler death theory examined

A coroner has issued a stern warning over the abuse of William Tyrrell's foster mum after a theory...

www.canberratimes.com.au

Is this what this inquest is all about - to prove that the Police investigation was thorough and intensive ?

Sorry for my obvious confusion as I thought it was about trying to determine what actually happened to William / caused his disappearance 10 years ago & never to be seen again since.

 

[JBowie]

Is this what this inquest is all about - to prove that the Police investigation was thorough and intensive ?

A coroner has to examine all aspects of a case and, IMO, given the nature and history of this case, police performance was always going to be a major factor in this inquiry.

Again, IMO, the police should not emerge from this smelling like a bed of roses. Too much procedural confusion reigned during the crucial first 48 hours.

 

[SouthAussie]

A coroner has to examine all aspects of a case and, IMO, given the nature and history of this case, police performance was always going to be a major factor in this inquiry.

Again, IMO, the police should not emerge from this smelling like a bed of roses. Too much procedural confusion reigned during the crucial first 48 hours.

Plus, this part of the inquest is about what has happened since the time when the Coroner was going to write her report.

She obviously had her thoughts laid out at one point, enough to write her report. And now she has to investigate the updated police brief. See if there is anything there that has changed things for her, about William's disappearance.

imo

 

[JBowie]

And now she has to investigate the updated police brief. See if there is anything there that has changed things for her, about William's disappearance.

And IMO the answer is: not much apart from a lot of digging and publicity and a bunch of proposed charges based on speculation rather than evidence.

... unless police have been keeping the lid on something significant but, given the way that police leaks usually occur, I strongly doubt it.

As I, and others, have opined before, this inquest is likely to result in an open finding, unfortunately.

 

[SouthAussie]

Since Dan Box started airing his Witness: William Tyrrell podcast, he has had eight different people contact him with what they feel is either a lead or a missed lead. Two sets of information were strong enough, and from credible people, that Dan passed those two leads onto the Coroner. To let her decide what should be done with them.

I think the other 6 leads were people that had passed info to Crime Stoppers and always wondered what happened to their tip .. because Dan contacted Crime Stoppers for their comment.

Australia’s biggest mystery: Dan Box Pt.2 - I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin

William Tyrrell is one of the biggest missing persons cases in the world - and it ultimately ended Gary Jubelin’s career. Now, investigative journalist Dan Box is giving listeners the definitive story into William Tyrrell’s disappearance. In this episode, Dan shares what was done right during...

omny.fm

 

[Karin1974]

this, exactly. I know the FM looks sus. I know she's had other legal troubles and issues with the other child. Certainly, and this is just my opinion fwiw but she's never endeared herself to me at all. But I just don't in any way see how she could possibly have done anything or covered up anything. Its such a tiny, tiny amount of time to do what she's been (not formally) accused of doing by LE and leave no discernible trace for so long. I've been on WS long enough now to know that when parents or husbands or whoever try and cover up a murder or accidental death that'll make them look bad, they give themselves a pretty significant amount of time before they contact LE - usually at least many hours or even the next day, occasionally longer. And then, they're generally found out easily because its actually not that easy to cover such a thing up. Just my 2c but I refuse to believe she's a criminal genius mastermind who is that good at hiding a body for the short amount of time she had. Unless there's some other crucial missing piece of the puzzle, as the facts stand for us right now, my opinion is, it was not the foster parents in any way.

IMO - I absolutely 100% agree with you. I am no fan of the FP’s but I don’t believe the FM had anything to do with whatever happened to WT.

 

[Karin1974]

Here is a non paywalled article I think

MSN

Convicted sex offender Frank Abbott, who was investigated over Tyrrell’s disappearance and subsequently charged with unrelated child sex offences, was present via video link from Long Bay prison but will not give evidence.

IMO - If he had nothing to do with it, why would FA be interested in anything to do with WT? Why is he even allowed to watch these proceedings at all, I really don’t understand, FA has basically inserted himself into this investigation & it reeks of suspicion to me.

 

[JBowie]

why would FA be interested in anything to do with WT?

IMO, Abbott -- a disgusting excuse for a human being -- is quite capable of anything. My guess is that his perverse interest is in the possibility of hearing his name mentioned.

 

[Marg944]

Thinking about it, perhaps that is the name of the truck driver….. just a guess.

Inquest to probe day what happened in hours after William’s disappearance​

“The inquest into William Tyrrell’s death will on Wednesday hear from a truck driver who was present on Kendall’s outskirts on the day the boy went missing.

The inquest on Wednesday is expected to hear from a truck driver who was on Batar Creek Rd on the day William vanished.”

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/inquest-to-probe-day-what-happened-in-hours-after-williams-disappearance/news-story/2f97c656f10125d18c1404173084ed38

 

[SouthAussie]

IMO, Abbott -- a disgusting excuse for a human being -- is quite capable of anything. My guess is that his perverse interest is in the possibility of hearing his name mentioned.

Dan Box said (in I Catch Killers Ep 2 with Dan Box) that they are going to go over all of the known POIs in future episodes. Because he is wondering how they have "cleared" people. Or if they just dropped them because they couldn't think of a way to proceed with them any further, so we heard nothing else about those people.

 

[SouthAussie]

Inquest to probe day what happened in hours after William’s disappearance​

“The inquest into William Tyrrell’s death will on Wednesday hear from a truck driver who was present on Kendall’s outskirts on the day the boy went missing.

The inquest on Wednesday is expected to hear from a truck driver who was on Batar Creek Rd on the day William vanished.”

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/inquest-to-probe-day-what-happened-in-hours-after-williams-disappearance/news-story/2f97c656f10125d18c1404173084ed38

First of the closed court sessions today also. The inquest will hear two electronically recorded interviews, from 2014 and 2022, with a key witness who cannot be identified. <modsnip>

The article also says that footage of the FM's evidence before the NSWCC will be shown before the inquest comes to a close. Guessing the media don't know yet if that will be in closed court or open court.

Truckie offers no leads on missing toddler's location

A truckie has told a court about the cars he saw when William Tyrrell disappeared, but his evidence...

www.canberratimes.com.au

 

[SouthAussie]

Well, Mr Bashkurt has testified .... it doesn't sound like he is speaking of the FM but instead is speaking of the overweight woman we heard about very early in this case. The one who was driving the black Camry. And then he also saw a dual cab ute, and an old dark coloured BMW.


Asked where he had seen the car 'you considered acting suspiciously' and driven by a woman, Mr Bashkurt said he saw it twice, in Kendall and nearby Kew.
He described a black Toyota Camry driven by an overweight blonde woman.

Mr Bashkurt told police that he had seen the black Toyota parked across the road from him at an old bus stop and that she had unnecessarily crossed the road in her car and parked too closely in front of him.
'I don’t know what triggered her to move from the location she was at. She didn’t need to come and park in front of me,' he said.
'Something must have triggered her to do that. I actually pulled out from behind her, because she was so close, I had to back up a bit. That was a bit odd for me.'
When he saw the car again in Kendall he saw a blonde, overweight woman exit it and go into the town's Op Shop.

Mr Bashkurt's third sighting of cars came as he exited with the excavator loaded on his truck along Batar Creek Road ....
He saw an approaching 'gunmetal grey' tradies' dual cab ute loaded with tools, and an early 1980s model BMW which he told police at the time was black with a ladder on top of it.
But testifying on Wednesday, he said it was 'dark red, maybe burgundy'.

Truckie reveals 'suspicious' sight on the day William Tyrrell vanished

 

[Marg944]

Will be very interesting to hear what evidence the key witness may provide….

“The inquest will then view two electronically recorded interviews by police of another key witness, who cannot be named or identified, in 2014 and again in 2022.”

Truckie offers no leads on missing toddler William Tyrrell's location

www.9news.com.au

 

[Awakening]

The thing that got me interested in this case, was when the truck driver was announced about 2 years ago I think?

I’ve been desperate to hear what crucial information this truckie had and….

I have no words. All I can say is my eyes couldn’t roll further back into my head.

My reaction is like my teenage sons when I ask him to unload and load the dishwasher.

 

[Karin1974]

The thing that got me interested in this case, was when the truck driver was announced about 2 years ago I think?

I’ve been desperate to hear what crucial information this truckie had and….

I have no words. All I can say is my eyes couldn’t roll further back into my head.

My reaction is like my teenage sons when I ask him to unload and load the dishwasher.

So basically the media have lied all along when talking about a truck driver who saw FM? Doesn’t appear the truck driver ever saw FM at all, I am so confused!! MOO

 

[Marg944]

So basically the media have lied all along when talking about a truck driver who saw FM? Doesn’t appear the truck driver ever saw FM at all, I am so confused!! MOO

Well, the truck drivers testimony has not ruled out anything!

IMO

 

[LolaAngelina]

Well, the truck drivers testimony has not ruled out anything!

IMO

Yet it proves another part of their theory to not be fact based at all. The story was that she may have been seen throwing something from her car. So far no-one has testified they even saw her driving let alone throwing anything out the car. I’m assuming this guess would be part of the many redactions made in the police brief

 

[Awakening]

So basically the media have lied all along when talking about a truck driver who saw FM? Doesn’t appear the truck driver ever saw FM at all, I am so confused!! MOO

Or there’s another truck driver? This doesn’t seem to be the truck driver that FM described.

 

[LolaAngelina]

The thing that got me interested in this case, was when the truck driver was announced about 2 years ago I think?

I’ve been desperate to hear what crucial information this truckie had and….

I have no words. All I can say is my eyes couldn’t roll further back into my head.

My reaction is like my teenage sons when I ask him to unload and load the dishwasher.

BBM perfect description!