Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) #79

[sleepinoz]

I agree. Not only a large settlement, in particular for charging them with false bidding as its not a criminal offense but a regulatory offense. This charge was the first time ever that one has been brought before a criminal court for a regulatory offense, thus the reason the police withdrew it in court and it was referred to where it should have been. This is malicious persecution. And it goes without saying, Williams sister will most likely sue as well, considering they dragged her out of school to ask hundreds of leading questions and it turned out to be mostly nothing after thousands of hours and 12 months of secret recordings. One would think that if they were listening in and a child was being abused, you would bash down the door to rescue her. But nope.

Sorry, I do not have access to this article. It's a paid subscription. But I do know she was going into a home of some sorts. And I dont think she had full on dementia at the time either, as she made a statement as per below.

Before she died at the beginning of 2021, a statement from William Tyrrell's foster grandmother about the boy's disappearance was tendered at a coronial inquest.

In the statement the foster grandmother said she had two theories about the boy's disappearance, but added: 'I can't think of anyone who would want to harm William.'

The first theory she shared by police was a man who lived alone on her street, Benaroon Drive, Kendall. Her second was that William may have walked down a nearby highway with 'lots of traffic moving back and forth'.

On the morning he vanished, September 12, 2014, the foster grandmother recalled William was 'full of beans ... jumping out of his skin with energy'.

'William was dressed in his 'Spiderman' costume ... While he was playing out the back patio he started roaring like a tiger and told us he was the 'daddy tiger'.

She said her daughter took the famous last photos of William on the property's balcony and had been contemplating feeding him morning tea. It was about 10.30am.

'William lost interest in drawing pictures and rolling dice and he ran down the two small stairs of the back patio, onto the grass and he ran around the right hand side of the house (to the front).

'That is the last time I saw William.'

'About five minutes had passed and the female foster carer said: ''Mum, he's a little bit quiet' and she walked off the back patio in the direction of where we'd last seen William.'

She next saw the foster mum standing out the front of the house speaking to a neighbour and calling out William's name.

'The female foster carer walked back to the house and told me she was calling the because she couldn't find William.

'The female foster carer called the police (and the male foster carer as well). I think the male foster carer arrived home before the police but I'm not entirely sure.

'The police didn't take long to get there and I remember the officer saying he wasn't far away when the call came in.'

She recalled how the foster carers had travelled up as she was in the process of selling her house as she needed something smaller.

She said William's foster parents were concerned 'that I was going to do the wrong thing, so they decided to come up to Kendall'.

You might like to add a link to that article as per the rules.

 

[Raina_the_observer]

And I dont think she had full on dementia at the time either, as she made a statement as per below.

Before she died at the beginning of 2021, a statement from William Tyrrell's foster grandmother about the boy's disappearance was tendered at a coronial inquest.

That statement was the one taken in the first few days after the disappearance in 2014, not contemporaneous with the inquest. And the FGM died at the end of 2020, not in 2021.

 

[SouthAussie]

She recalled how the foster carers had travelled up as she was in the process of selling her house as she needed something smaller.

Your post has just stated exactly what I was saying. FGM needed something smaller. Not that she was going into a "home".

imo

ETA: Here is the link for the info in your post.

New owner of William Tyrrell's foster nan's home holed up inside

William's foster nana offloaded the three-bedroom home in Kendall, on the NSW mid north coast, within six weeks of the three-year-old in the Spider-Man suit disappearing.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Bernie1960]

That statement was the one taken in the first few days after the disappearance in 2014, not contemporaneous with the inquest. And the FGM died at the end of 2020, not in 2021.

The point is, a statement was made by the foster grandmother and it was tendered at a coronial inquest. So at the time, I doubt she had dementia or full on dementia.

 

[Bernie1960]

You might like to add a link to that article as per the rules.

Which part would you like a link to. The first part or second. The second part (Grandmother statement) was a copy and paste from a report.

 

[Sillybilly]

Also, where does it say a link MUST be provided. The rules I read says "You MAY provide a link"

You been reading the wrong place then. This is where it says it:

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[SouthAussie]

If she wasn't in the early stages of dementia at that time, why did the Police ignore her insistance that the FF left before 8am? This was a huge discrepancy to what everyone else said. I know he was caught on camera, but he could have driven the other way.
Obviously, they knew her memory was not reliable.

Conversely, the detectives asked FM's cousin if FGM said anything on her deathbed about William's disappearance.
FGM also said, in the moments before she passed away, that one of her greatest regrets was that she would never know what happened to William. (as per FM's cousin in Dan's podcast)

Doesn't sound like FGM had dementia to me. Remembering so well 6 years after William disappeared.

I think that the discrepancy that you speak of is the fallibility of eye witness evidence.

The Suspect | 10 - Witness: William Tyrrell

News leaks that police believe they’ve cracked the case. Witness: William Tyrrell is the new, landmark investigation from news.com.au. Read more and watch exclusive video content here Follow us on socials: Instagram: @newscomauhq Facebook: News.com.au TikTok: @news.com.au Subscribe to Crime X+...

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[Bernie1960]

If she wasn't in the early stages of dementia at that time, why did the Police ignore her insistance that the FF left before 8am? This was a huge discrepancy to what everyone else said. I know he was caught on camera, but he could have driven the other way.
Obviously, they knew her memory was not reliable.

She did make a statement and they relied on that. And people of that age, do forget things. They are not always sharp as a tac as they used to be.

 

[drsleuth]

If she wasn't in the early stages of dementia at that time, why did the Police ignore her insistance that the FF left before 8am? This was a huge discrepancy to what everyone else said. I know he was caught on camera, but he could have driven the other way.
Obviously, they knew her memory was not reliable.

Trauma & memory?, it's a real thing.

Eg From the Lindt Siege , 2 of the hostages who were in the cafe at the end of the siege , don't have a memory of one of the shots fired in the cafe by Monis, despite this being true.

https://coroners.nsw.gov.au/documents/findings/2017/lindt_cafe_findings-and-recommendations.pdf

O/T 10 years ago today at this time people's lives were changed forever.

Remembering them all today xx

 

[Raina_the_observer]

Conversely, the detectives asked FM's cousin if FGM said anything on her deathbed about William's disappearance.
FGM also said, in the moments before she passed away, that one of her greatest regrets was that she would never know what happened to William. (as per FM's cousin in Dan's podcast)

I thought that it was FM's niece that was interviewed in that podcast?

 

[Raina_the_observer]

Conversely, the detectives asked FM's cousin if FGM said anything on her deathbed about William's disappearance.
FGM also said, in the moments before she passed away, that one of her greatest regrets was that she would never know what happened to William. (as per FM's cousin in Dan's podcast)

She also said in that interview that the Police were asking questions that suggested they suspected the FGM of involvement (in something).

 

[SouthAussie]

I thought that it was FM's niece that was interviewed in that podcast?

Yes, my mistake. I saw the word cousin in the AI transcript and typed that. She is William's foster cousin. With FGM being her grandmother.

47:46
Speaker 9: We were just a regular family.

47:50
Speaker 1: This is that child's cousin. Her aunt is William's foster mother. Tell me about William. When did you first meet him.

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[drsleuth]

Episode 11 What now?

Witness: William Tyrrell podcast | Listen online for free

Witness is the home of investigative podcasts for news.com.au It’s 10.56am. A family home in Kendall, on the Mid North Coast of New South Wales. Three-year-old William Tyrrell is reported missing. Last seen wearing his favourite Spider-Man suit. Ten years after his disappearance on 12 September...

au.radio.net

 

[SouthAussie]

Episode 11 What now?

Witness: William Tyrrell podcast | Listen online for free

Witness is the home of investigative podcasts for news.com.au It’s 10.56am. A family home in Kendall, on the Mid North Coast of New South Wales. Three-year-old William Tyrrell is reported missing. Last seen wearing his favourite Spider-Man suit. Ten years after his disappearance on 12 September...

au.radio.net

Interesting hearing so much from Mick Fuller.

"There will be new police coming through in the future, and they will look at this case with a fresh set of eyes. Sometimes it takes 30-40 years to solve a case, and sometimes they are never solved". (or words to that effect)

Also, the strike force had narrowed down their POIs to about 10 people when they decided to pursue the FM as one of those POIs. He makes it sound as if that was done due to statistics.

imo

 

[Awakening]

Interesting hearing so much from Mick Fuller.

"There will be new police coming through in the future, and they will look at this case with a fresh set of eyes. Sometimes it takes 30-40 years to solve a case, and sometimes they are never solved". (or words to that effect)

Also, the strike force had narrowed down their POIs to about 10 people when they decided to pursue the FM as one of those POIs. He makes it sound as if that was done due to statistics.

imo

It was great to hear from Fuller. I hope Dan and Nina do find some new information that can be shared with the public. Even clarification on some things.

 

[iiiii's]

Interesting hearing so much from Mick Fuller.

"There will be new police coming through in the future, and they will look at this case with a fresh set of eyes. Sometimes it takes 30-40 years to solve a case, and sometimes they are never solved". (or words to that effect)

Also, the strike force had narrowed down their POIs to about 10 people when they decided to pursue the FM as one of those POIs. He makes it sound as if that was done due to statistics.

imo

Dan did ask about the focus on the FM, considering MF was not all over the case, I think he would 1stly point to crime statistics as a reason why, but I do not think the strikeforce focused purely for that reason although it was a factor. She was already on their POI list , so other criteria would have been met, like on the scene, last person to see him, no corroborated alibi for a period of time, etc. things I've listed a million times on here that sometimes feel like they're of no consequence even though to this day, we don't have further clarity around some issues to do with this POI, although there is no evidence of WT being in FGM's car or in any area of the searches. For some of us she was the most likely person who should have been investigated deeply years earlier. MOO

 

[SouthAussie]

Dan says that Paul Savage was outside packing his car (presumably for the trip he was going to - but didn't - make that day to stay with his brother) - which is something I hadn't heard or thought about before. From about the 56 min mark in the podcast, where Dan is saying that William's sister said William went to look for daddy's car.

And this is interesting ... Dan and his crew have been working on a parallel investigation. One which they will speak of in this podcast in the future. About things that have happened on the mid-north coast. Things that Dan can't believe haven't been made public. Some of the things, Dan has found to be quite shocking. From about the 58 min mark in the podcast.

What Now? | 11 - Witness: William Tyrrell

The investigation comes to a stop, and the police commissioner speaks out. Witness: William Tyrrell is the new, landmark investigation from news.com.au. Read more and watch exclusive video content here Follow us on socials: Instagram: @newscomauhq Facebook: News.com.au TikTok: @news.com.au...

omny.fm

 

[LolaAngelina]

Dan says that Paul Savage was outside packing his car (presumably for the trip he was going to - but didn't - make that day to stay with his brother) - which is something I hadn't heard or thought about before. From about the 56 min mark in the podcast, where Dan is saying that William's sister said William went to look for daddy's car.

And this is interesting ... Dan and his crew have been working on a parallel investigation. One which they will speak of in this podcast in the future. About things that have happened on the mid-north coast. Things that Dan can't believe haven't been made public. Some of the things, Dan has found to be quite shocking. From about the 58min mark in the podcast.

What Now? | 11 - Witness: William Tyrrell

The investigation comes to a stop, and the police commissioner speaks out. Witness: William Tyrrell is the new, landmark investigation from news.com.au. Read more and watch exclusive video content here Follow us on socials: Instagram: @newscomauhq Facebook: News.com.au TikTok: @news.com.au...

omny.fm

Yes will be very interesting to hear what they have found.

 

[Awakening]

Dan says that Paul Savage was outside packing his car (presumably for the trip he was going to - but didn't - make that day to stay with his brother) - which is something I hadn't heard or thought about before. From about the 56 min mark in the podcast, where Dan is saying that William's sister said William went to look for daddy's car.

And this is interesting ... Dan and his crew have been working on a parallel investigation. One which they will speak of in this podcast in the future. About things that have happened on the mid-north coast. Things that Dan can't believe haven't been made public. Some of the things, Dan has found to be quite shocking. From about the 58 min mark in the podcast.

What Now? | 11 - Witness: William Tyrrell

The investigation comes to a stop, and the police commissioner speaks out. Witness: William Tyrrell is the new, landmark investigation from news.com.au. Read more and watch exclusive video content here Follow us on socials: Instagram: @newscomauhq Facebook: News.com.au TikTok: @news.com.au...

omny.fm

That’s what I’m hoping for and that he’s not just stringing us along.

There’s so much misinformation about this case and it’s very hard for the average member of the public (like me) to figure out what’s accurate and what’s not.

I’ve been hoping someone in the media would sort it out, as the media often conflict one another.

 

[Awakening]

There was mention of a neighbours car that was similar to foster dads. Does anyone know what neighbour the podcast was referring to or what car the fosters had?