AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #3

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  • #81
This is rich. LVD questioning a witness about the benefits she murdered over -- you can't make this up.

Jmo
 
  • #82
LDV: you investigate fraud?

If this were a movie, it would be ludicrous.

Jmo
 
  • #83
It only took her 15 minutes and 73 questions to this poor guy to get around to what she's implying. :rolleyes:
 
  • #84
This is rich. LVD questioning a witness about the benefits she murdered over -- you can't make this up.

Jmo
And she’s trying to liken her circumstances (as designated payee for child survivor SS benefits for Tylee and JJ) with CV’s first wife (whose kids with CV were both adults at time CV died). And is also trying to confuse issues of surviving spousal SS benefit with child survivor SS benefits.
 
  • #85
Lori trying to testify.
 
  • #86
LVD should not be allowed to testify.

She didn't call that SS employee as a witness.

He can't testify to what that person told LVD.

And LVD is introducing hearsay with her questions.

NO FAIR.


JMO
 
  • #87
LVD: "Let me have a moment to confer."

She is getting high off playing Lawyer.

JMO
 
  • #88
And she’s trying to liken her circumstances (as designated payee for child survivor SS benefits for Tylee and JJ) with CV’s first wife (whose kids with CV were both adults at time CV died). And is also trying to confuse issues of surviving spousal SS benefit with child survivor SS benefits.

She's quite the work of art.

Obviously.... manipulative, vindictive and thinks she is wayyyy smarter than she really is.
 
  • #89
This witness says "Mother child in care" benefits would not to go the surviving parent if they were not married at date of death. This could explain why LVD freaked out so much when CV wanted to file for divorce.
 
  • #90
To be fair, there are people who have odd religious beliefs, but no one imagines that they will actually kill children.

MOO, the children were killed, because LVD wanted their money, and they didn't fit in with her plan to live in Hawaii. She killed JJ, just out of pure hate towards Kaye, and Charles Vallow.

It had nothing to do with religion. That was just some sort of justification made up to appease their narcissism. Keeping up the illusion CD and LVD were so holy and wonderful. Even to themselves.

1000% Narcissism.
 
  • #91
This witness says "Mother child in care" benefits would not to go the surviving parent if they were not married at date of death. This could explain why LVD freaked out so much when CV wanted to file for divorce.
She also claimed that she and Charles lived together at the time of his death, which wasn't true.
 
  • #92
Jurors asking great questions.
 
  • #93
LDV: would you know if I went to a SS office in Hawaii?

Seriously, LVD. Um, SS is federal. It's one big data base.

JMO
 
  • #94
The State cannot bring it up UNLESS the Defense somehow gets into the details while questioning a witness. What they call “ opening the door “.
LVD came very close the other day when she was grilling Nancy Jo Hancock about her and Charles discussing Lori on their date.
If the door is opened. The State is free to bring it all up.
JMO
Just catching up on posts, so this may already be answered. IF Lori testifies, then her past convictions will be revealed. There was a motion about this and there were arguments whether all three convictions should be revealed or just two. So in short, as well as opening a door in cross examination, if she testifies, the jury will get to hear about her past convictions.
 
  • #95
Technical difficulties so judge added to the record, three questions from jurors

Did payments to LVD stop? (Didn't catch whether it was asked) * ETA thanks to @Diddian Question was asked and yes, they stopped.

Would a person have to pat it back? Objections by both sides so wasn't asked.

Did L notify SS she remarried? No objections so question was asked and answered.

JMO

Lunch break.
 
  • #96
Technical difficulties so judge added to the record, three questions from jurors

Did payments to LVD stop? (Didn't catch whether it was asked)

Would a person have to pat it back? Objections by both sides so wasn't asked.

Did L notify SS she remarried? No objections so question was asked and answered.

JMO

Lunch break.
First question was asked and the witness said “yes.” (Payments DID stop).
 
  • #97
Just catching up on posts, so this may already be answered. IF Lori testifies, then her past convictions will be revealed. There was a motion about this and there were arguments whether all three convictions should be revealed or just two. So in short, as well as opening a door in cross examination, if she testifies, the jury will get to hear about her past convictions.
LVD won't have to testify. She's been testifying all along.

I can't wait until trial's end to hear from jurors. Once they learn the full context.

LVD's ego is uncontainable.

JMO
 
  • #98
Laughable. LVD tells the judge she'll review some papers -- says she'll "try" -- if she has time.

Ha.

ALL she has is time. Couple's three life sentences. But those aside, it's not like she's GOING OUT for lunch. Eat your box meal, Lor. You have time. Read up.

JMO
 
  • #99
Technical difficulties so judge added to the record, three questions from jurors

Did payments to LVD stop? (Didn't catch whether it was asked) * ETA thanks to @Diddian Question was asked and yes, they stopped.

Would a person have to pat it back? Objections by both sides so wasn't asked.

Did L notify SS she remarried? No objections so question was asked and answered.

JMO

Lunch break.
Were payments to Lori stopped? Good job, juror! Way to cut to the chase… They got the gist of the somewhat convoluted questions and answers.
 
  • #100
She is talking far less today after a witness answers a question. Last week she kept saying OK after almost every comment. She must have been practicing over the weekend.
 
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