CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - #17

[Cherry]

Thank you SandSage, yep I am going to start over from the get go in his case. I just have to go to last person who was with him last to see him alive. It just doesn't add up and soon; they will be able to list him as legally dead in court, and then I suppose they will inherit everything. How sad. I have always found his case incredibly sad and I think money is that absolute bottom line in this case; it's the motive and reason why we are all here. JMO..... sadly.

 

[Cherry]

If this is our man; someone logged into his ancestry account YESTERDAY. Maybe he IS still alive? I DK; but there seem to be a lot of posts by Bob Harrod of CA; on ancestry.

Activity

Member since 31 May 2007
Last signed in Yesterday
Profile updated 8 months ago
About

Member Name RobertHarrod77
Gender Male
Age Group 60+
Education Bachelors Degree
Employment Retired
Occupation Advertising / Marketing / PR
Lineage British Isles
Family History Experience

Experience Level Advanced
Researching since 2000
How often? Once a week

 

[SandSage]

Yes yes I think so too; that the color indicates level?

Red can indicate the wearer belongs to the Grand Lodge of Scotland / Blue, Blue Lodge. I'm more interested in the symbol - whether it was a Shriner's (star), etc. Looking for specifics in it's design.

 

[sreshowtime]

I don't think that is MR. H on Ancestry- he came from Missouri

 

[sreshowtime]

don't forget there is a thread here with lots of additional info/links
CA CA - Bob Harrod, Time Line and Media Links only - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Cherry]

And this link is chock full of the first video interviews.
http://onthedocketofftherecord.com/thread/1421/harrod-missing-july-2009-placentia?page=2

Study these videos; what repairs were being done? The house looks in fantasic shape. And first video says his wallet is with him.

 

[sreshowtime]

interested to see what you 'new' folks theorize ... your 'opinions'

 

[Cherry]

am sorry I said son I meant Julie's Husband his son in law. Here in the first reports Julie and husband state timelines and they don't match up:
Son in law was there; then leaves, then returns....why would his wallet be gone; but his vehicle there? I don't believe the SIL and I think this is all about Bob's money; and the children knowing they were going to be out millions of dollars. I don't believe Julie, her statements about "accepting his new wife" don't sit well with me. I've not seen these vids in years, and re watching them gives some new insight at least to me?

Placentia PD: "Robert Harrod was last seen at his residence on July 27 2009 at 11am in the City of Placentia. When a family member returned to the house at approximately 1pm, Harrod was gone."
www.placentia.org/DocumentCenter/Home/View/102

Detective Loomis: "told police he left the home to buy supplies around 2.30pm, and time-stamped receipts bear him out,"
www.ocregister.com/news/harrod-214111-vanished-ordeal.html

 

[Cherry]

Red can indicate the wearer belongs to the Grand Lodge of Scotland / Blue, Blue Lodge. I'm more interested in the symbol - whether it was a Shriner's (star), etc. Looking for specifics in it's design.

Me too I will do some digging. I've followed his case from day one; and these past few years not so much. What is the worst thing is if he fell ill; he would have been found by now. He has not been found not a trace and that leads me to believe foul play. Money as Motive. I'd like to know exactly what repairs the SIL was doing and also; what he bought.

 

[Cherry]

I don't think that is MR. H on Ancestry- he came from Missouri

Yep; I'm looking at it; just posted it this morning.....does anyone know if he was doing any research on ancestry at all or if he was into genealogy?

 

[Cherry]

And Kudos to Fontelle who I totally sympathize with in this case; for attempting to keep his case alive. I'm glad that a cold case unit has now been employed; I think that eventually there will be arrests. And I will not be shocked. something was stolen from Fontelle which can never be replaced. A life; with her love.

She thinks something happened in the upstairs bathroom:

“Truthfully, I think he was murdered in that bathroom upstairs. Maybe intentionally…maybe accidentally,” said Harrod.

The wife said the bathroom was damaged and repaired. Before that, Bob confided that he had a heated discussion with his family who wanted the marriage annulled.

“He said, ‘I hope we can be good friends and have a life together.’ And then all of a sudden, I was shot down,” said Harrod.

Supporters are still making fliers and taking to Facebook, hoping to at least bring Bob’s remains home.

“There is somebody who knows what happened. And I would like for them to come forward and tell police what happened,” said Harrod.

Bob’s family was unable to be reached for comment.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013...ssing-placentia-mans-wife-suspects-foul-play/

 

[Grainne Dhu]

If this is our man; someone logged into his ancestry account YESTERDAY. Maybe he IS still alive? I DK; but there seem to be a lot of posts by Bob Harrod of CA; on ancestry.

Activity

Member since 31 May 2007
Last signed in Yesterday
Profile updated 8 months ago
About

Member Name RobertHarrod77
Gender Male
Age Group 60+
Education Bachelors Degree
Employment Retired
Occupation Advertising / Marketing / PR
Lineage British Isles
Family History Experience

Experience Level Advanced
Researching since 2000
How often? Once a week

I have a feeling that is not the same Bob Harrod as our Bob Harrod. There is another such coincidence in the case; there is an AH who has a small plane pilot's licence, just as Bob's grandson AH does but it's two men with the same name.

The occupation is wrong, for one thing.

If it is our Bob Harrod, then I wonder why he's not accessing any of his money, credit cards, SS, etc. And why he has left his wife, Fontelle, twisting in the wind for four years; that would be one of the most emotionally cruel acts I have ever heard of and does not fit with what we know of Bob's character from his former neighbour and best friend.

 

[Grainne Dhu]

Red can indicate the wearer belongs to the Grand Lodge of Scotland / Blue, Blue Lodge. I'm more interested in the symbol - whether it was a Shriner's (star), etc. Looking for specifics in it's design.

Bob was definitely a Mason, so I think his ring would have the Masonic symbol on it. I haven't read anything yet that said he was also a Shriner.

 

[Grainne Dhu]

Me too I will do some digging. I've followed his case from day one; and these past few years not so much. What is the worst thing is if he fell ill; he would have been found by now. He has not been found not a trace and that leads me to believe foul play. Money as Motive. I'd like to know exactly what repairs the SIL was doing and also; what he bought.

The thing that really torpedoes the theory that Bob walked off on foot was that Bob had bad knees. If you watch the various videos from before he disappeared, there is one that shows him in his backyard and it's easy to see that he moves very carefully, just like he has sore knees. Not too surprising, his knees were 81 years old just like the rest of Bob (I say that with respect) and everyone gets some dings and dents as they go through life.

He lives in what looks from the air like a very typical SoCal housing subdivision. There is nowhere within a possible walking distance for Bob that he could have disappeared to without leaving a trace.

What is more, I think his entire family knew that Bob just walking off was so unlikely as to be about as probable as his being beamed up by alien abductors... and yet, that is one of the theories they floated to the PPD as to his disappearance. Curious, isn't it?

 

[Cubby]

I was thinking of a stop there early on the way to Bob's, before he got the 10 am call so a receipt wouldn't have been a lot of use.
And maybe the purchases being things that might have been a little awkward to explain.

I hear ya. I agree with things that might have been awkward to explain, but with regards to a hardware store stamp prior to 10:00 am, it would confirm the repairs were necessary prior to Bob's disappearance. IOW it would clear up any question on whether the items purchased for repairs were due to an accident/incident which occured with Bob or not. I hope that makes sense.

It occured to me late last night that perhaps LE can do something similiar to what was done in the UID case for little Atcel Olmedo, formerly known as DuPage Johnny Doe. LE was able to trace the clothing he wore to which store sold that the outfit....

If the replacement items in the home have serial numbers, can LE trace back those numbers to where and when they were purchased? Say for example, what if it were AH, not SIL, who purchased the replacement items and brought them back to his father?

Just thinking outloud... back to catching up.

 

[Cubby]

Excellent question. Degree might factor into his ring style - and I assumed it was missing (on him) because it is listed on his missing flier (would be great to have that verified).

Welcome to Bob's thread SandSage! :welcome:

I think believe' said it best when describing the clothes Bob was allegedly wearing, or usually wore, as being dressed like the Good Humor Man.

I don't think we know what Bob was wearing, what jewelry may have been missing with him. Bob's SIL, daughter and grandson had full access to the house for about 48 hours after Bob's disappearance. Who knows what left with Bob and what might have left from the time Bob disappeared until Fontelle's arrival.

We have suspected it is quite possible the old materials which had to be replaced may be with or near Bob's current location.

 

[Cubby]

If this is our man; someone logged into his ancestry account YESTERDAY. Maybe he IS still alive? I DK; but there seem to be a lot of posts by Bob Harrod of CA; on ancestry.

Activity

Member since 31 May 2007
Last signed in Yesterday
Profile updated 8 months ago
About

Member Name RobertHarrod77
Gender Male
Age Group 60+
Education Bachelors Degree
Employment Retired
Occupation Advertising / Marketing / PR
Lineage British Isles
Family History Experience

Experience Level Advanced
Researching since 2000
How often? Once a week

Bob's family said Bob did not use the computer. Interestingly, your post jarred the memory that AH took the computer from Bob's home, iirc. I don't believe LE had an opportunity to search it.

 

[sreshowtime]

didn't one of the children make some statement once that Mr. H had the cable and internet cut off while their mother was in the hospital sometime prior to her death? I think I read that some where, sorry can't link specifically. But, there was a computer there...wonder if anyone ever, savvy , could have used it and 'borrowed' a little local wireless connection? Or was that in the days you could still get that free trial AOL , etc dial up connections?

 

[believe09]

am sorry I said son I meant Julie's Husband his son in law. Here in the first reports Julie and husband state timelines and they don't match up:
Son in law was there; then leaves, then returns....why would his wallet be gone; but his vehicle there? I don't believe the SIL and I think this is all about Bob's money; and the children knowing they were going to be out millions of dollars. I don't believe Julie, her statements about "accepting his new wife" don't sit well with me. I've not seen these vids in years, and re watching them gives some new insight at least to me?

Placentia PD: "Robert Harrod was last seen at his residence on July 27 2009 at 11am in the City of Placentia. When a family member returned to the house at approximately 1pm, Harrod was gone."
www.placentia.org/DocumentCenter/Home/View/102

Detective Loomis: "told police he left the home to buy supplies around 2.30pm, and time-stamped receipts bear him out,"
www.ocregister.com/news/harrod-214111-vanished-ordeal.html

His glasses were left behind as well. No wallet, no glasses, no real physical description other than elderly, slender and bald.

 

[believe09]

curious as usual, do we have an address for whomever Mr. H's attorney is? or a name?

The info is contained in the poison pen letter RB coincidentally wrote 10 days before her father disappeared/was a victim of a suspicious homicide but was redacted by the poster. F.C. is all I can see in the letter.

Let me get you the link...

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - #9