CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - #17

[zwiebel]

Interestingly, if you look at that same video where Det Loomis does an interview in virtually the same spot, in front of the house, JuM's white car is gone. Did JuM leave before the detectives arrived to talk to Fontelle?

 

[travelbug]

I know the question is frequently asked whether Fontelle spoke with Bob on Monday morning. This article: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=6939639 states she last spoke with Bob on Sunday night.

 

[Oriah]

Interestingly, if you look at that same video where Det Loomis does an interview in virtually the same spot, in front of the house, JuM's white car is gone. Did JuM leave before the detectives arrived to talk to Fontelle?

I think, maybe?

 

[sreshowtime]

^ http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=6939639
reading /watching again...
just no sense of urgency or concern, imho...
"Hopefully he will show up. We're anticipating he'll show up, you know, because he knows she was coming in and he was looking so forward to this,..."


Shouldn't that WAS have been a IS? I mean barely 2 days later ...he should still be looking forward,!!!
belch, I am getting all PH , doing some statement analysis huh...

whereas Fontelle uses was, in referring to the recent conversation.....
was there ever a direct PLEA to the public for help??? Rather than this hope he is watching carp
i mean really

 

[Oriah]

I know the question is frequently asked whether Fontelle spoke with Bob on Monday morning. This article: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=6939639 states she last spoke with Bob on Sunday night.

She either spoke with Mr Harrod on Sunday night or on Monday morning- or both? Or neither? Or more than one person did on both days?

 

[Oriah]

ayup.
"We're anticipating he'll show up, you know, because he knows she was coming in and he was looking so forward to this."

 

[sreshowtime]

That 10 am ish call is still a secret as to who it was with...which I always have wondered if it was Fontelle, then ( or maybe earlier but she was asked to not disclose) since they spoke twice a day, morning & evening...

 

[sreshowtime]

2:12 Loomis indicates they didn't realize financial, etc info "at this moment'

boy they got an awakening huh
and 2:25-26 still strikes me..............odd

 

[Oriah]

Sre- want to go to SAR and pick through coordinates?

 

[sreshowtime]

frankly i'd be surprised any cleaning/repairing went on worth a toot, for a good reason, after Monday

 

[sreshowtime]

hahaha, get out the dart you mean? going down

 

[Oriah]

Sorry! yes back to 33. 881.77/ -117/85075 *sigh* radious of 2.2 miles?

 

[sreshowtime]

am I suppose to be in someone's back yard peering thru the fence at Alta vista Golf course??

 

[sreshowtime]

i'm going downstairs

 

[Cubby]

I have just written three posts about the timeline and had to delete them all because it is so confusing.

.....make that four.

If son in law spoke up now, even if it was to contradict everything that has gone before, it would be so helpful. He was the last known person to see Bob and his words would be absolutely invaluable in mustering public support to help find Bob. If he spoke now, he would get attention. Lots. More than even his wife could summon up. If he cares about missing people, he should step up now and prove it. The time is well overdue.

Care about missing people..... Oh, how I wish that were the case here but I am strongly suspicious about JeM and JuM protecting AH from some money problems which involved Bob's money. I can't shake the feeling that with AH's previous money troubles, he might have been doing something with Bob's money, Bob was unaware of which may have become uncovered if Bob was able to add Mrs. Harrod to his accounts.

Obviously police know way more than we do, and I keep going back to the same possible reasonable doubt. And that it could be argued JeM or AH could be tossed in as the person responsible should either of them be brought to trial.

I absolutely believe police know who is responsible and are not yet at the point they have an airtight case. So they continue to build the case until they believe they can guaranty a conviction. Police are not going to let this go..... no matter how long it takes, I'm convinced they will see it through.

 

[Cubby]

Thank you! I look forward to reading through all of it (I read through some of it at the beginning of this thread).

I'm a little peeved, though; what Netflix is calling season 5 is actually starting with Episode 11 of season 4, according to Wikipedia ("The Road Not Taken"). So Bob's episode is not on there, after all! :banghead: Jerks! If I'd had access to Netflix from work I would not have posted that, before. Sorry, all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappeared_(TV_series)

tcg

The episode is available for sale for a very min amount. IIRC 3 dollars or so at the most. The places it's available are in my siggy.

I ended up purchasing it on the box. I think it can be purchased through the other gaming systems too if they are linked to the net.

 

[zwiebel]

am I suppose to be in someone's back yard peering thru the fence at Alta vista Golf course??

No, you're supposed to be packing, remember?

 

[zwiebel]

Care about missing people..... Oh, how I wish that were the case here but I am strongly suspicious about JeM and JuM protecting AH from some money problems which involved Bob's money. I can't shake the feeling that with AH's previous money troubles, he might have been doing something with Bob's money, Bob was unaware of which may have become uncovered if Bob was able to add Mrs. Harrod to his accounts.

Obviously police know way more than we do, and I keep going back to the same possible reasonable doubt. And that it could be argued JeM or AH could be tossed in as the person responsible should either of them be brought to trial.

I absolutely believe police know who is responsible and are not yet at the point they have an airtight case. So they continue to build the case until they believe they can guaranty a conviction. Police are not going to let this go..... no matter how long it takes, I'm convinced they will see it through.

With Mr H on his own, his financial affairs seemed to have become a family affair. His marriage to Fontelle was set to change all that, I think. I'm not saying she was good with accounts or anything - she could be worse at that than me, for all I know - but it would be the emotional balance that would change.

As I feel it had been before when he was married to Georgia, Bob would feel a married couple's financial affairs were their own business. Daughters have said how Bob was always very private about finances, and I think it was only in widowhood he allowed Daughter PB to step in and help, and grandson AH to start moving and shaking with all those financing deals.

Once married to Fontelle, I think he was about to take everything into his own hands again, and maybe go visit his attorney/advisor, make some changes and also put them in charge of stuff he could no longer do. That would have put them in a position to spot anything Bob might have missed. I think he may have told the family that at the Sunday meeting, and that may have been a problem for someone.

 

[Cubby]

I would love to know if he rented a rug doctor from Home Depot that morning and took it back that afternoon. I wonder how far back they keep records of rentals?

Or if perhaps his wife did in the 48 hours she had full access to Bob's house between the time he disappeared to the time Mrs. Harrod arrived?

She had both doors wide open on a hot July day and was extremely sweaty in the MSM video's. It's possible the house was very humid due to having cleaned the carpet.

 

[Cubby]

With Mr H on his own, his financial affairs seemed to have become a family affair. His marriage to Fontelle was set to change all that, I think. I'm not saying she was good with accounts or anything - she could be worse at that than me, for all I know - but it would be the emotional balance that would change.

As I feel it had been before when he was married to Georgia, Bob would feel a married couple's financial affairs were their own business. Daughters have said how Bob was always very private about finances, and I think it was only in widowhood he allowed Daughter PB to step in and help, and grandson AH to start moving and shaking with all those financing deals.

Once married to Fontelle, I think he was about to take everything into his own hands again, and maybe go visit his attorney/advisor, make some changes and also put them in charge of stuff he could no longer do. That would have put them in a position to spot anything Bob might have missed. I think he may have told the family that at the Sunday meeting, and that may have been a problem for someone.

IIRC, per AH's deposition, the money 'borrowed' from Bob went back long before Georgia passed away.

I find myself wondering why PB and RB would hold back for the M family if they were not involved, and I come back to PB's comment about the money going out to the barber. It makes me wonder if she knew of large sums of money going out to AH.

I can't say I haven't wondered if PB and RB were blackmailed or threatened by the M family. If somehow PB and RB have been convinced they were as equally responsible even though they were technically not doing anything wrong and were concerned about Bob marrying Fontelle not long after having given out large sums of money to the hairdresser. It would have been reasonable, imo, for RB and PB to be concerned and the M family somehow used that for their advantage.