CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - #18

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There really isn't that much information about what was happening between June 29th, when Bob got married without telling his family, and July 27th, when he disappeared. I think it could be very important though.
 
  • #663
I am going to ask if Mr Harrod can be put back on the homepage for his fifth anniversary of going missing. I don't see the harm in asking, as mods can only say no.

But what can we do to let more people know he has been missing five years? There must be something.

*Mr Z and I had a fight over the lovely wooden couple yesterday, found for Mr Harrod's wedding anniversary. Mr Z put it in a place where the sun fell on it, and it looked so beautiful, he pointed it out to me. I got my camera out, to post the pic here - and he moved it!

So we had a very 'animated discussion' about his interference (my version) or help (his version) and when I turned back to take the photo, the sun had set.

Tried getting it in the same position tonight, but it didn't work. :(
 
  • #664
WS has had an upgrade but Mr Harrod's thread is still here, and I also find all my little thumbnail pics are big, big, big! So I am happy.

4th of July. I have no idea what Bob did in 2009, but I'm thinking Bob and Fontelle probably enjoyed themselves. Had fun together. It's too much to wish Mrs Harrod a happy 4th of July now, but I wish her good memories of happier times with Bob in the past.
 
  • #665
We don't seem to have a homepage anymore, with the upgrade. So I'm rapidly rethinking my ideas for Bob's fifth missing anniversary!
 
  • #666
Hello All

I am new to his thread, but set my box to record Disappeared episodes whenever they came on the TV. This case really got me thinking, and I've seen it three times in the past few weeks. I've also read some of the linked articles. I have many thoughts on this case.

In the Disappeared episode, Paula comes across as the most "human". She cries and does seem genuinely concerned. Now Paula does still seem to have issues, but to me she seems the least likely to have done it. Roberta on the other hand comes across as cold as ice, yet at the same time she appears to be a person with a horrible temper. She says she wouldn't wish this on anyone, that "it's an absolute horror". However she isn't trying very hard to find her father, and has made some totally inappropriate statements:

"His daughter, Roberta, acknowledged the exchange, saying her father lost his temper. She said he had failed to provide copies of their mother's will, which he was obligated to do because of the financial mechanisms set up by the estate.

"It wasn't a heated meeting," she said in a phone interview. "Dad got heated. He's very selfish, very conditional. The day before he went missing in the afternoon, he was going to provide us copies of the will, and we went over to get the copies. He didn't have them."


How classless was it for her to call her missing father selfish?! Even if that were true, you don't say it. I have a close family member with a lot of mental health issues, and they have screamed at people, hit people and been very fake. Yet there is no way I would publicly acknowledge their issues, let alone if they were missing! And I firmly believe Bob was not selfish. He came across as romantic and gentle.

I also wonder about Paula worrying about him having dementia. As I said, she is the only one of the three daughters who has any cred in my eyes. She said he was very depressed. Doctors will tell you that depression can cause dreadful anxiety (he was afraid to drive at night, according to daughters) and absolutely forgetfulness (she said she helped him with his paperwork). So I actually think Paula may have really been worried about Bob. He definitely was depressed before meeting Fontelle again. And I think that depression could indeed have appeared as dementia to the layperson.

Then, I saw that really bizarre video footage where Julie (Julia?) was laughing and smiling when Fontelle had arrived and Bob still wasn't home. When people are very trauamatised or nervous, they may find themselves laughing. I know when I was younger I used to worry about laughing for no reason in Church, for example. I've also seen people laugh when they are extremely traumatised. Her laughter to me further indicates that the answers lie within her own family.

I thought the son in law who last saw Bob made a very strange comment to the police. He said that when he returned to the house he thought Bob might have left because, "he became ill". If my 81 year old FIL left his house suddenly, and I thought that was due to his feeling ill, I'd be very worried indeed. I'd likely go out looking for him!

Finally, the detective's statement regarding the house search was rather telling. He said the house was searched, but that, "At this time I cannot say what was found in it or what wasn't found in it". That implies something was found in it. Also, Fontelle said in an interview that she thought Bob had been killed in the bathroom upstairs. Anyone know why she thinks it was there, specifically?

Sorry if these issues were covered somewhere in the other threads.. I haven't had time to catch up...
 
  • #667
That statue is stunning!
 
  • #668
Galbin,
Welcome to Bob Harrod's thread. Among the threads there have been discussions of repairs being made to an upstairs bathroom by the son-in-law. There has been speculation that some violence occurred there, causing the damage.

It's nice to have another set of eyes on this thread.
 
  • #669
Welcome Galbon! Always great to have new eyes on Bob's case. The manner in which you posted caused me to notice what I might consider two partial truths, or lies, in statements made by Bob's family.

At the time Roberta made the statement, "Dad got heated. He's very selfish, very conditional. The day before he went missing in the afternoon, he was going to provide us copies of the will, and we went over to get the copies. He didn't have them."

Adding "in the afternoon" in the middle of that sentence is so out of place, it's like a flashing red flag. If you look at the confirmed facts in the timeline, "in the afternoon" speaks loudly that Roberta already knew no one spoke to her dad after 10:00 am and her BIL could not account for his time between the last confirmed phone call and the time the housekeeper arrived. Otherwise there was no reason to add 'in the afternoon' in the middle of that sentence.

I agree Paula sounds genuine in her concern over Bob's grief over losing his first wife. I don't recall Paula ever directly confirming she believe Bob had suffered from dementia. I think she carefully chose her words to not contradict Julie's statement regarding the dementia.

As for Jeff's comment that Bob might have left because he became ill. I think there is a whole lot of partial truth to that and Jeff knows exactly what caused Bob to become ill and what condition Bob was in when he left the house. My first theory is Jeff accidently killed Bob in the upstairs bathroom. Became scared knowing how an accident would appear following the heated family meeting and hid the body. Likely with the help of his son. Since the housekeeper confirmed Bob told her Jeff was coming, I believe there were plans to get some things done around the house. I think a confrontation occurred between Bob and Jeff which led to whatever accident occurred.

My second theory is Jeff arrived at Bob's house shortly after that 10:00 am phone call and walked in on, or shortly after, a confrontation between Bob and his grandson and both Andrew and Jeff cleaned up and accident and hid Bob's body.








 
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Welcome Galbin!

There seems to be lots of contradictions around Bob's case. The most glaring for me are that the housekeeper's story indicates son in law showed no thought or concern that Bob might be missing, he just got on with his work. But it looks like by the time he got home, he was worried enough to say something to his wife that got her phoning all round telling people Bob was missing.

And I really thought it was strange the way the children expected Fontelle not to return once they told her Bob was missing - it's like they already knew for certain, he was never coming back.
 
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Not long to July 27th now. Last year we had some new media - wonder if there will be any surprises this year. Like an arrest?
 
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If they have, I wish they'd share.

Although their information looks a little lopsided to me - even downright wrong. And I don't know why Bob's website's named there, because that info didn't come from there.
 
  • #674
To be clear:

The last known person to see Robert Merle Harrod has never publically stated what time that was.

There is a difference between 'being cleared' and a time a person made a store purchase (3.02pm) 'being confirmed' by a receipt.

If Robert Merle Harrod disappeared by 12 noon as his housekeeper (very publically) insists he did, a 3.02pm receipt has no relevance as an alibi anyhow.

Robert Merle Harrod's barber/hairdresser DOES have a solid alibi, according to police. And furthermore, police have stated it would have killed the golden goose, for the hairdresser to have disappeared Bob. No more Bob - no more money.

The mention by son in law of the 'mysterious black car' (like the hairdresser's) driving ominously up and down by Bob's house was not enough to cause him any concern when Bob disappeared from the house.

Not enough to cause him even to recollect it at his first police interview.

It was suddenly recollected at the second police interview. And was then dropped like a hot brick by everyone concerned, it seems.
 
  • #675
I was having a nice evening, before I found that. :(
 
  • #676
Does anyone think the new Placentia Police chief, who I really like because he is a good sport for a good cause, (splash) :) should get Bob's missing poster updated on the Placentia PD page?
 
  • #677
I was having a nice evening, before I found that. :(

I'm with you Zweibel!! The "presentation" is poorly researched and full of inaccurate information. I certainly hope it isn't the start of "mockumentary" evidence to support the need to settle Bob's estate and disburse funds.
 
  • #678
I love that word, mockumentary!

And I suspect some disbursement's already taken place, by one means or another, remembering what Gitana told us about the way these conservatorships can work in CA. But there'll be windfalls for some eventually, I've no doubt. After all, Bob is probably a multimillionaire. Or, as some coyly put it, 'The M word.'
 
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I love that word, mockumentary!

And I suspect some disbursement's already taken place, by one means or another, remembering what Gitana told us about the way these conservatorships can work in CA. But there'll be windfalls for some eventually, I've no doubt. After all, Bob is probably a multimillionaire. Or, as some coyly put it, 'The M word.'

zwiebel, thanks to you and cubby, for keeping this story on the front page. I truly admire you both.
 
  • #680
Such an upsetting story. Pretty sure we know what happened here, but I imagine that it's unlikely that any proof will be found pointing definitively at the one(s) who caused him to disappear.
 
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