CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - # 3

[believe09]

There has been quite a bit of positive response to the media requests we have put out, so I hope that all of those who love and miss Bob are willing and able to add their voices when it comes time for the stories to be written and produced.

 

[Cubby]

"We've treated this as a homicide investigation," said Placentia Police Chief Jim Anderson. "Because you can't go back in time and retrieve evidence. But our chief concern is for Mr. Harrod's safety."


If, contrary to his doctor's statements, he were beset by some dementia and wandered off, overwhelming odds are that he would have appeared at a nearby intersection or shopping center, disoriented and drawing attention to himself – especially with his face all over television and the newspapers, Loomis said.

http://www.ocregister.com/news/-214111--.html




He has slight dementia, his daughter said.

http://www.aolnews.com/story/81-year-old-newlywed-robert-harrod-is/598639


Michaels says her father is showing signs of dementia and can hardly walk two blocks because of his bad knees.

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-long-engagement,0,266953.story


Millsap said there's a dispute in the family as to whether or not Harrod even suffers from dementia, so police don't think that's the reason for his disappearance.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,535895,00.html

A family member told the media that Bob was showing early signs of dementia. Detectives who interviewed his doctor say Bob was of sound mind, Loomis said.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/living/2010985815_disappeared08.html

 

[believe09]

Lots of he said, she said in this case....

An example: She said he was showing signs of dementia, Dr says he wasnt.

 

[Cubby]

Lots of he said, she said in this case....

An example: She said he was showing signs of dementia, Dr says he wasnt.

Considering Bob asked his daughters to leave him alone for 6 months prior to his disappearance, how would any of them know Bob was showing mild signs of dementia? Even Bobs daughters OWN WORDS state they hadn't seen him much in the first half of 2009.....

I would expect someone who saw Bob on an everyday basis or almost everyday basis such as CAExile to be able to notice subtle changes that might be indicative of the early stages of dementia, but not someone who clearly saw very little of Bob in the 6 months or so prior to his disappearance.

How does one 'judge' someones possible medical condition when they haven't seen them in appx a half year, or seen them very little in a half year?

I tend to believe the doctor and CAExile - as CAExile saw Bob very frequently and ALSO stated Bob recently started seeing his doctor more frequently to ensure he had "another 20 years left".

jmo

 

[Cubby]

Hey, can someone tell me if this has been mentioned, already, and explain what this document means? It's a legal notice pertaining to the estate of Robert Merle Harrod. The post was made on 12/11/2009, and a hearing date was set for January 4th, 2010.

http://eznotice.com/notices/1323934

Page 1 in this thread, first half dozen or so posts have some info on the court stuff.

hth

 

[Cubby]

There has been quite a bit of positive response to the media requests we have put out, so I hope that all of those who love and miss Bob are willing and able to add their voices when it comes time for the stories to be written and produced.

Me too!

 

[Cubby]

rereading CAExiles blog about what would have been Bobs 82nd birthdate, I noticed something I had not seen previously.

http://paulkestes.blogspot.com/2010/06/today-would-have-been-bob-harrods.html

CAExile mentions SIL went to home depot and get some lunch. I'm very curious about this, because if SIL was working in the home wouldn't he and Bob have planned on having lunch together? If SIL did pick up lunch, wouldn't there be reciepts to show where he stopped and picked up lunch and at what time, for 1 or 2 persons?

Wouldn't lunch have fit into the changing timeline? It might explain why the daughters thought he left at about 1pm rather than 2:30 or so which was later reported.

If he went to pick up lunch why would he do that so late, and then stop at Home Depot not returning until 3pm? 3pm is awfully late to have lunch.

CAExile, can you expand on this 'lunch' you mention? It has really opened a lot of questions for me.

tia

 

[Cubby]

Cubby,

Are we allowed to post an attachment with before and after screenshots of Myspace and FB pages?

I double checked with the higher ups, and the answer is no. WS policy for social networking groups is what is private is private.... We can only post and link to what is public on either site.

I recommend sending an email and snail mail to LE with this information. I also suggest notifying both MySpace and Facebook site owners to let them know of the concerns on how these pages are being utilized for Bobs case.

When we have had problems with FB or Myspace in the past, we have had to direct members to the admin or owners of those sites (Not the page owner, but the actual owners of the site itself). As we here only have control over WS rules and our forum.


hth

 

[Angelo]

I went through some old posts/threads to see if there were any useful mentions of 'truck' or 'Honda', but found little information beyond that. Something that did strike me, though, was that I want to say 'thanks' to CAExile for his objectivity and steadfast loyalty to Bob. You've given us some sincere appraisals and thoughtful recollections of people involved that have forced me, at least, to think twice about some theories. I am curious, though, if your thoughts on what might have happened have changed over time? (Not to ask you what your theory might be, of course, but do some things seem more or less plausible now, to you?) This is an open question to those following Bob's case: did any of your opinions on what might or might not have happened change over time?

In full disclosure, mine did, somewhat -- based on time-line issues and subsequent activities of some people potentially involved.

(All JMO, of course.)

I started following this case almost from the beginning. I was on the IS forum when the daughters were posting. I can not say my opinion has really changed but it has evolved.

My initial thoughts were the SIL or the daughters.

The SIL was always at the top of my list though I did keep open the possibility that the daughters could have possibly done something to their father on Sunday. That was before I knew Mr. Harrod was alive Sunday night and spoke to Fontelle after the heated meeting, and another indepentent witness spoke to Mr. Harrod Monday morning.

I have kept an open mind and looked at everyone including the hairdresser, but everything leads back to the SIL and daughters. IMO, one or more of them are the ones who likely to hold the answers to what happened to Mr. Harrod.

 

[Cubby]

I have kept an open mind and looked at everyone including the hairdresser, but everything leads back to the SIL and daughters. IMO, one or more of them are the ones who likely to hold the answers to what happened to Mr. Harrod.

I'm on the same page. I'm on the fence over 'one or more'. Family dynamics are never easy to sort out. I'm so on the fence if this was a group effort, or the effort of one or two.........

With little feedback other than animosity (sp?) from a few, I found something which is somewhat OT to Bobs case directly but gave me pause to consider.

Georgia Harrods brothers obit. (WS TOS, and per previous verification with Tricia the deceased are ok to post about and discuss..... )

http://www.sierramadrenews.net/obits/paulmagaris.htm

It made me wonder, if perhaps there was some kind of 'oneupmanship' between Georgia's brother Paul and Bob. Maybe there was some rankmanship (is that a word?) between their dad and what they knew of other family members. Especially being a military family.

I did find it curious, perhaps only different than what I am accustomed to reading obits, that Georgia was mentioned, but Bob and Pauls neices, Bobs daughters were omitted.

I also noticed that Pauls son, did not share his last name/surname.... And that what I think is Pauls mother? was mentioned as Pauls wife, while his life long partner, or "his lady" was also mentioned.

IMO, after reading this, it crossed my mind that perhaps there was some who was more valuable or worthy.... and I, having to be open minded, and consider all the facts, think perhaps Bobs daughters grew up in this kind of environment where there was far more competition than acceptance for who on is......

I'm not trying to make excuses for anyone, but I can't help but wonder in my mind if perhaps Bob was ridiculed and the butt of jokes which were hurtful and harmful but no one recognized that as such decades ago.

I sometimes wonder, if Bob was much like my grandfather and my own father who didn't say much and let things fly probably more often than he should have.


I think there is a lot of pain within this family, and I am not ready to throw all three daughters to the wolves so to speak.... because I think, perhaps two at least, are acting or reacting on what they grew up with.. and some unresolved issues. I'd like to believe these things are something they are not fully aware of, but I am not so sure of that.

I know myself, at one time, I was SO incredibly angry at my father... it took the deepest darkest pain to talk to him about it, and resolve those issues..... My dad was by far not perfect and it wasn't until my my late 30's I found the 'gumption' to discuss those issues.... Now my dad is the one of my closest family members and the one I trust the most. Why? because he was the only one willing to take that deep introspection into himself and his faults while others were still fighting taking that deep and painful introspection.

Maybe I am relating as a daughter with an imperfect father.....
Though my choice was to 'hash and rehash' it out with my dad....

I don't know how Bobs daughters may or may not have made attempts to or had the opportunity to....

It just makes me wish I had the opportunity to know Bob and his family and friends. And I will pray for Bobs blood family so that all things are put aside, to solve Bobs disappearance.

I've met people in real life, who would - let's say if Bob really had 3 million in assets look dirt poor, and have listened to stories of people with half million dollar annual incomes be chit on by their wealthy neighbors..... It's few and far between, but a different world.

It makes my heart ache so much more so for the TRUTH and Justice for Bob.

JMO

 

[suzyq211]

I'm on the same page. I'm on the fence over 'one or more'. Family dynamics are never easy to sort out. I'm so on the fence if this was a group effort, or the effort of one or two.........

With little feedback other than animosity (sp?) from a few, I found something which is somewhat OT to Bobs case directly but gave me pause to consider.

Georgia Harrods brothers obit. (WS TOS, and per previous verification with Tricia the deceased are ok to post about and discuss..... )

http://www.sierramadrenews.net/obits/paulmagaris.htm

It made me wonder, if perhaps there was some kind of 'oneupmanship' between Georgia's brother Paul and Bob. Maybe there was some rankmanship (is that a word?) between their dad and what they knew of other family members. Especially being a military family.

I did find it curious, perhaps only different than what I am accustomed to reading obits, that Georgia was mentioned, but Bob and Pauls neices, Bobs daughters were omitted.

I also noticed that Pauls son, did not share his last name/surname.... And that what I think is Pauls mother? was mentioned as Pauls wife, while his life long partner, or "his lady" was also mentioned.

IMO, after reading this, it crossed my mind that perhaps there was some who was more valuable or worthy.... and I, having to be open minded, and consider all the facts, think perhaps Bobs daughters grew up in this kind of environment where there was far more competition than acceptance for who on is......

I'm not trying to make excuses for anyone, but I can't help but wonder in my mind if perhaps Bob was ridiculed and the butt of jokes which were hurtful and harmful but no one recognized that as such decades ago.

I sometimes wonder, if Bob was much like my grandfather and my own father who didn't say much and let things fly probably more often than he should have.


I think there is a lot of pain within this family, and I am not ready to throw all three daughters to the wolves so to speak.... because I think, perhaps two at least, are acting or reacting on what they grew up with.. and some unresolved issues. I'd like to believe these things are something they are not fully aware of, but I am not so sure of that.

I know myself, at one time, I was SO incredibly angry at my father... it took the deepest darkest pain to talk to him about it, and resolve those issues..... My dad was by far not perfect and it wasn't until my my late 30's I found the 'gumption' to discuss those issues.... Now my dad is the one of my closest family members and the one I trust the most. Why? because he was the only one willing to take that deep introspection into himself and his faults while others were still fighting taking that deep and painful introspection.

Maybe I am relating as a daughter with an imperfect father.....
Though my choice was to 'hash and rehash' it out with my dad....

I don't know how Bobs daughters may or may not have made attempts to or had the opportunity to....

It just makes me wish I had the opportunity to know Bob and his family and friends. And I will pray for Bobs blood family so that all things are put aside, to solve Bobs disappearance.

I've met people in real life, who would - let's say if Bob really had 3 million in assets look dirt poor, and have listened to stories of people with half million dollar annual incomes be chit on by their wealthy neighbors..... It's few and far between, but a different world.

It makes my heart ache so much more so for the TRUTH and Justice for Bob.

JMO

I think many of us had grandfathers and fathers who didnt say much. That was the way it was "in the day". I also think many of us had "imperfect" families. I can only hope that as a parent I didn't make any HORRIBLE mistakes, but I know I made some. Nobody is perfect. I think that maturing and growing up means we realize our parents are human and not Gods, and then hopefully we can accept them for who they are. Because, God knows ,we hope our children can accept us the same way.

Whatever happened to Mr Harrod, he deserves to be found and brought home.After a lifetime of taking care of those around him, he should be taken care of. JMO.

 

[dreamweaver]

I'm on the same page. I'm on the fence over 'one or more'. Family dynamics are never easy to sort out. I'm so on the fence if this was a group effort, or the effort of one or two.........

With little feedback other than animosity (sp?) from a few, I found something which is somewhat OT to Bobs case directly but gave me pause to consider.

Georgia Harrods brothers obit. (WS TOS, and per previous verification with Tricia the deceased are ok to post about and discuss..... )

http://www.sierramadrenews.net/obits/paulmagaris.htm

It made me wonder, if perhaps there was some kind of 'oneupmanship' between Georgia's brother Paul and Bob. Maybe there was some rankmanship (is that a word?) between their dad and what they knew of other family members. Especially being a military family.

I did find it curious, perhaps only different than what I am accustomed to reading obits, that Georgia was mentioned, but Bob and Pauls neices, Bobs daughters were omitted.

I also noticed that Pauls son, did not share his last name/surname.... And that what I think is Pauls mother? was mentioned as Pauls wife, while his life long partner, or "his lady" was also mentioned.

IMO, after reading this, it crossed my mind that perhaps there was some who was more valuable or worthy.... and I, having to be open minded, and consider all the facts, think perhaps Bobs daughters grew up in this kind of environment where there was far more competition than acceptance for who on is......

I'm not trying to make excuses for anyone, but I can't help but wonder in my mind if perhaps Bob was ridiculed and the butt of jokes which were hurtful and harmful but no one recognized that as such decades ago.

I sometimes wonder, if Bob was much like my grandfather and my own father who didn't say much and let things fly probably more often than he should have.


I think there is a lot of pain within this family, and I am not ready to throw all three daughters to the wolves so to speak.... because I think, perhaps two at least, are acting or reacting on what they grew up with.. and some unresolved issues. I'd like to believe these things are something they are not fully aware of, but I am not so sure of that.

I know myself, at one time, I was SO incredibly angry at my father... it took the deepest darkest pain to talk to him about it, and resolve those issues..... My dad was by far not perfect and it wasn't until my my late 30's I found the 'gumption' to discuss those issues.... Now my dad is the one of my closest family members and the one I trust the most. Why? because he was the only one willing to take that deep introspection into himself and his faults while others were still fighting taking that deep and painful introspection.

Maybe I am relating as a daughter with an imperfect father.....
Though my choice was to 'hash and rehash' it out with my dad....

I don't know how Bobs daughters may or may not have made attempts to or had the opportunity to....

It just makes me wish I had the opportunity to know Bob and his family and friends. And I will pray for Bobs blood family so that all things are put aside, to solve Bobs disappearance.

I've met people in real life, who would - let's say if Bob really had 3 million in assets look dirt poor, and have listened to stories of people with half million dollar annual incomes be chit on by their wealthy neighbors..... It's few and far between, but a different world.

It makes my heart ache so much more so for the TRUTH and Justice for Bob.

JMO

I know that most men of Robert Harrod's age the 'silent' type.
While I never had any deep disagreements with my dad, I always felt
closer to my mom. But after my mom passed away, I spent more time with dad and I got to really know him.
As with anyone, (myself included) he had his ways, but he was a kind, caring person.
There could have been major issues in the Harrod family when his daughters were growing up, obviously we do not know what the
family structure was like.

I have followed this case from the beginning. I posted on the original IS thread.
My initial thought that the who did it was the barber/hairdresser.
It just seemed to fit. My thinking at the time was that she 'took' a lot of money from Mr Harrod and didn't seem to anxious to pay it back.

But, after it was very clear that she or her husband had nothing to do with Robert Harrod's disappearance, I looked at the sil.
Since he was the next most obvious person to look at; he was the 'last person to see Robert H.
The major red flag was the timeline.
It changed.
And it continued to change.
It was different from when I did the myspace page to later recollections.
On NaMus, first page, time given is 12:00 pm, noon.

I don't know who made Robert Harrod disappear and most likely killed him.
But if it is a family member, I hope it was an accident. Even if it was an accident that was never reported.
Not that it makes it all right, but maybe, understandable.

I pray for the killer, whomever he/she is, to find it in their heart and soul to confess.

 

[Sharyne]

I don't really feel I can say my opinion, but I just had to say that not everything is always as it appears.

I can say, that I wasn't as fortunate as everyone here to have a loving father. Mine was an excellent liar, and could get everyone to believe him even if there was proof in front of their faces of his lies. I know what it feels like to have everybody who talked to him believe him over my truths. If he couldn't fool them, he could get their pity and make excuses for him.

 

[ShowMe]

i don't really feel i can say my opinion, but i just had to say that not everything is always as it appears.

I can say, that i wasn't as fortunate as everyone here to have a loving father. Mine was an excellent liar, and could get everyone to believe him even if there was proof in front of their faces of his lies. I know what it feels like to have everybody who talked to him believe him over my truths. If he couldn't fool them, he could get their pity and make excuses for him.

I totally agree!

 

[believe09]

I don't really feel I can say my opinion, but I just had to say that not everything is always as it appears.

I can say, that I wasn't as fortunate as everyone here to have a loving father. Mine was an excellent liar, and could get everyone to believe him even if there was proof in front of their faces of his lies. I know what it feels like to have everybody who talked to him believe him over my truths. If he couldn't fool them, he could get their pity and make excuses for him.

I totally agree!

I can appreciate the perspective of on a parent who was an abuser in some way for sure-I am not sure though if the perspective is being raised because the belief is that Bob is not worthy of being found? :waitasec:

You know what? Seeing as how this is not a court of law....I can have sympathy for a family that was under the thumb of someone who may have been autocratic and abusive in ways that have not been substantiated, but may actually be true.

But, here is what I see fwiw-the family may have lived under Mr. Harrod's thumb, but they reaped the reward as well. He appears to have been at the minimum financially supporting many of them. And I have to ask myself at what point does this family at their own advanced age take responsibility for their role in this family dynamic? When do you say I am willing to put myself continually under the thumb of this man, as an ADULT, so that I can continue to collect the dollars? Because this is how I see it. At the minimum, this is how I see it.

I do not think that there has been sufficient evidence put forth on these threads or in the media to indicate that Mr. Harrod was such an evil man, he deserves to be left to twist in the wind while the people he left behind fight over his money. (Because even the by-pass trust was under his control as we have established.)

There are people who have and are posting on these threads who know this man and love him. Mr. Harrod had friendships and expressed love and affection towards people. Mr. Harrod's case is with Homicide now-either by accident or design. Which indicates that his disappearance did not happen under his own steam. He is worthy of being found, and there are at least two people who are actively searching for him and a resolution.

We as sleuthers and posters are here for Mr. Harrod. He is the missing man and the victim. I have yet to see any proof that he is unworthy of being located and restored. People who feel he is unworthy will unlikely post or search for him. I will continue to bring attention to his case while I can because the status quo here is not justice in my mind-no one deserves to get away with abducting an elderly man who was days away from being restored to his new bride. Not fair. JMVHO

 

[dreamweaver]

believe09: I did not read the posts as saying Mr Harrod was not worthy of being found.
I thought they were expressing how their childhood was, how their father behaved.
I think it was to maybe explain the contradictions the daughters have posted about their dad.

Or maybe not? It could be that I did not read the posts throughly.

I think those of use who post on WS are united in helping to find Robert Harrod.

 

[believe09]

believe09: I did not read the posts as saying Mr Harrod was not worthy of being found.
I thought they were expressing how their childhood was, how their father behaved.
I think it was to maybe explain the contradictions the daughters have posted about their dad.

Or maybe not? It could be that I did not read the posts throughly.

I think those of use who post on WS are united in helping to find Robert Harrod.

I suppose at this point, dream, we are all confused. I think I would understand alluding to an abusive childhood if it had some bearing on the case. IIRC, the abusiveness has been raised in reference to Mr. Harrod not turning over trust documents. There was a separation between Mr. Harrod and his family after Georgia died-it has been related a few different ways...that Mr. Harrod requested the sabbatical and gave his children 15K each after they threatened him regarding financial incompetence, or that the family started to be torn apart around January 2009 in regards to Mr. Harrod not turning over the trust documents, which led to more and more frustration. I do not believe however that Mr. Harrod ceased his financial support of his relatives during this sebbatical.

The other context I heard it raised was regarding the family meeting on the Sunday before Mr. Harrod disappeared. One daughter reported everyone left the meeting OK with one another, and another daughter reported the Mr. Harrod was uncooperative as usual. My words not hers.

So I have to wonder what the point is in raising that Mr. Harrod was not a good father, or was an abusive father or whatever the circumstances were of the childhood that is long gone unless it has direct relevance to the reason why he was abducted from his home. Or taken from his home.

Unless no one wants him found because bringing him back would be worse than him being gone?

See I understand losing your childhood to abuse. But I am genuinely trying to understand how all these pieces fit into why this man was taken and where he is now. No disrespect is intended at all.

 

[Cubby]

I've really tried to give this a lot of thought... and I am just going to verbalize this. Bare with me.......

My opinion only, my top POI is SIL. I am honestly torn over whether he did this alone or with the knowledge of Bobs daughters. Part of me believes without the daughters solely because the greater number of people who are 'aware' the greater chances someone will 'turn on the other' - especially if the main motive is greed. (why not throw another family member under the bus to save whatever they had to save kind of thing.... Is it really possible they are ALL FOUR OR FIVE in this together with the intention to wait it out? For myself, I think it is a greater possibility one or perhaps two know. As an aside, I do not necessarily mean that no one outside of the SIL' knows, just perhaps not Bobs daughters. It is possible grandson knows........

We know about the bypass trust. What we do not know what was Georgia's wishes were in her will. As far as I know, Georgia's wishes have not been made public on the WWW. It is possible the daughters misunderstood the bypass trust, it looks that way - whether that is truth or smoke and mirrors I don't know.

IMO, it is possible that Bobs daughters having known they just had a heated argumentative conversation with their dad, had concerns over their dad being more than appropriately generous to the hairdresser - which is their prerogative to believe..... had not yet gotten to know Fontelle, had been emotionally hurt by their fathers lack of wishing to have as close of a relationship as they wished prior to his being reunited with Fontelle, had previous suspicions or concerns over the hairdresser along with accusations being pointed at SIL - it is likely they would or could react as they did.

What I fail to understand at this point, is
1)the apparent refusal to acknlowledge LE has officially ruled out/cleared of any involvement - the hairdresser and her husband. Is this because they can not consider SIL may very likely be responsible? Or, is it because they are deliberately creating smoke and mirrors?

2)The alleged abuse by their father while they were children. That has me stumped. Is it because they can not consider SIL may very likely be responsible or is it because they would like to disuade public interest in Bobs case?

I keep going back to two things. 1)The likleyhood of FOUR or FIVE people staying quiet. Logically it seems harder to conceive the more the merrier, rather than just one or two who know they will both likely be screwed if either snitches on the other...... (of course the first one to go to LE and will testify gets the best deal, but that is a whole 'nother topic) 2)I would think, if I loved my dad, no matter his faults and God knows we ALL have them, why a year into his disappearance, I would suddenly be sharing or implying faults of his that were four or five decades old. IMO, it defies logic..... IMO, I'd be crying my eyes out forgiving him for his faults and just wanting him back. I'd be going to hoops - anything to clear my name (if I knew I wasn't involved) so LE could focus on the right trail. Some, no not some, much of the behavior appears to be sending LE on a wild goose chase and perhaps to paint Bob in a bad light to dissuade the publics interest.

It's difficult for me to understand........ and for what it is worth, I am in this for the long haul until this case is solved. I've been following Debbie Fijans unsolved case of 44.5 years and Anna Waters unsolved for 37.5 years..... like Debbies and Anna's cases, however long it takes. Personally I do not believe Bobs case will go unsolved that long. I would be VERY surprised if it were not solved a year from now, or by the second anniversary of Bobs disappearance rolls around.

JMO

 

[Cubby]

Unless no one wants him found because bringing him back would be worse than him being gone?

respectfully snipped. IMO, the only person who would likely believe finding Bob would be worse than him being found is the person responsible for Bobs murder. It gives me pause to consider his manner of death, simply because enough time has gone by it is likely Bobs remains would be fully skeletonized at this time, and IF there were no signs of premortem (correct word?) or antemortem wounds on his skeleton than wouldn't it just be simpler to have him found so he could be declared deceased and the money no longer tied up? Especially if after so much time an ME could not determine cause of death.

ETA: UNLESS there would be obvious wounds on Bobs skeleton which would be clearly indicative of homicide- in which case, then for whomever is responsible it would be better he not be found.

Hmmmm.....

JMO

 

[cloudajo]

IMO, I think the SIL had the motive, means, and opportunity. I think his wife was either in on the plan (if it was planned) or knew about it shortly thereafter. I think the other 2 daughters either figured it out right away or were told. IMO, they then went on a smear campaign against a number of people and put out mis-information to distract for three reasons: 1) out of loyalty to their sister, 2) lack of respect for their father and anyone who questions them, and 3) a sense of entitlement and their belief that they deserved their father’s money.


It’s a lot of things, including events from the year prior to Bob going missing, but the main things for me are:

1. Lack of response from family in CA the evening/night when Bob had been missing for hours
2. Daughter JM’s statement, “We’re thinking maybe 1, noon?” and post “…before I went dth to get the house ready, linens changed for he and his wife; I started to call all the local hospitals.“ Daughter’s PB’s posts “There was a family meeting on Sunday, it was heated at times, there were NO threats and we all left on good terms” and “Then I realized that my BIL was there and I DID hear him say he was going to the ‘hardware store‘. My dad responded to him in a favorable way.”
3. Shifting timeline
4. Daughters’ glaring omission of timeline clarification in the many dozens of posts on various forums over the past year
5. Daughter JM’s and SIL JM’s later refusal to be interviewed by the media
6. No searches, vigils, reward, or benefits organized by 3 grown daughters/SIL/grandson - when they are all from the area and have a community who would be more than willing to help if asked
7. Unwavering and focused steps to take over control of the estate and trust
8. Bad-mouthing and passive/aggressive comments about their father, his new wife, his new wife’s family, the hairdresser, the PPD, and the media on a public forum
9. An oak display case worth $2,000 given away for free by daughter JM and SIL JM a little over 1 month after Bob disappeared
10. Outrageous use of Facebook and Myspace pages set up for a missing person. Changing the pages after things are pointed out - who would do that?

I find it very curious that now there are references being put out there alluding to childhood abuse (on IS and links on the FB setup for Bob). I think it’s possible this is being used as a last resort to further manipulate people and explain their bad behavior, since none of their other accusations have worked out for them. IMO.