CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - # 5

[suzyq211]

Absolutely true, Cleo. It would also apply to anyone found to be an accessory after the fact -- someone who has aided or comforted the person who committed the crime. This would include those who have made up stories implicating others that they know to be innocent of a crime that they know a family member to have committed.

In short, there is every chance that none of Bob's daughters will be able to keep any of his estate in the long run.

But I would agree, guilt based on conspiracy is more likely here.

So what about jail time?

 

[Montjoy]

Worst daughters ever.

Hate to quote myself, but (and as awful as Bob's daughters are), I regret not mentioning Bob's son in law JM and his grandson AH here. In the spirit of Christmas, I suppose I should be magnanimous and celebrate Bob's generosity and forgiveness to all of them, but try as I might, I still regret it. That poor man deserved better -- heck, nobody deserves family like that.

 

[Montjoy]

So what about jail time?

Oh, yes indeed -- that should certainly be part of the bargain. They should all be quite at home with part of the arrangement there -- they will not have to pay for room and board.

 

[Cubby]

Absolutely true, Cleo. It would also apply to anyone found to be an accessory after the fact -- someone who has aided or comforted the person who committed the crime. This would include those who have made up stories implicating others that they know to be innocent of a crime that they know a family member to have committed.

In short, there is every chance that none of Bob's daughters will be able to keep any of his estate in the long run.

But I would agree, guilt based on conspiracy is more likely here.

BBM. :clap: :clap: :clap: Thank you Montjoy! No doubt it has been more than obvious Bobs daughters have not only spent a great deal of time complaining about money, not doing squat to find their missing father, but have spent SO much time continually trying to direct the investigation into Bobs disappearance in directions ALREADY ruled out.

I for one am more than willing to sit back and watch them race with jet fuel speed into the brick wall that is eventually coming for the much anticipated and so well deserved Justice for Bob.

Someone in that group of six KNOWS and all six choose to sit back and do nothing awaiting their much anticipated treasure, daddy's money. Until and unless one of them chooses to put Bob first, may they all reap what they have sown and continue to sow.

2011 is gonna be your year for Justice Bob!

Merry Christmas Bob wherever you are and Merry Christmas and a huge thank you to all who continue to fight for Bobs cause and ensure he is not only not forgotten but receives the justice he so deserves. I'm honored and Blessed to work with such a fantastic compassionate team! That includes all who do not post much but continue to read and follow Bobs story.

Cubby

 

[Opie]

Nothing to add here, just bumping to get Bob back on Page 1 for a while.

Justice is moving slowly, but we hope and pray it is coming.

 

[suzyq211]

Bumping for Mr. Harrod...praying that 2011 is the year that we find him and those that harmed him are arrested and punished!

 

[Montjoy]

Yes, this absurd situation has gone on long enough. Make no mistake about it -- LE has no unanswered questions about the 'who' or the 'why' in this case. Nor have they any questions about the 'who knew?'. I think it's been said countless times in this thread -- one of Bob's daughters has to realize that the only way she will inherit penny one is by being the one to talk to LE. Yes, in either case, it will mean burning one sister that she hates and one sister about whom she couldn't care less. I think a bunch of us have our hunches about which of the sisters is the smart one.

I suspect that many of us in Bob's corner have grown to assume that all three of his daughters will be doing the rest of their lives in jail, and inheriting nothing, but I also know that I will reserve a smidgen of respect for whichever one of them decides to do the right thing, and I will not be upset when she is the only daughter to inherit.

I've suspected for a while that two of Bob's daughters would gang up on the obvious target, but I will admit that it is entirely possible that it will only be one of them, or even one against the two others. (The more I think about it, the stronger the last option seems.)

 

[Cubby]

Here's to 2011 being the year Bob receives justice.

I'd like to reiterate LE has NOT publically named a POI or suspect, however that does not mean LE doesn't have their radar on a suspect or suspects behind the scenes.

Imo, one or some/many of the group of 6 know and it is just a matter of time before charges come down in this case. I'm sure we can all think of cases we thought would never be solved only to be pleasantly surprised when charges come down. I smell charges being much much closer than anyone anticipates - but that is jmo.

Happy New Year Bob wherever you are!

 

[Montjoy]

I'd like to reiterate LE has NOT publically named a POI or suspect, however that does not mean LE doesn't have their radar on a suspect or suspects behind the scenes.

Let's be frank, Cub -- the POI doesn't even deserve the celebrity of being named a POI.

 

[dreamweaver]

Murder will out.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/murder_will_out
murder will out
a murderer will always be discovered.
(idiomatic) secrets or hidden crimes will eventually be exposed or discovered; nothing that is secret can remain a secret forever.

 

[believe09]

Happy New Year, Bob wherever you are. I hope those who love you receive answers and a measure of justice in the coming year. We will continue to follow this story with dedication.

 

[SuziQ]

Here's to 2011 being the year Bob receives justice.

I'd like to reiterate LE has NOT publically named a POI or suspect, however that does not mean LE doesn't have their radar on a suspect or suspects behind the scenes.

Imo, one or some/many of the group of 6 know and it is just a matter of time before charges come down in this case. I'm sure we can all think of cases we thought would never be solved only to be pleasantly surprised when charges come down. I smell charges being much much closer than anyone anticipates - but that is jmo.

Happy New Year Bob wherever you are!

BBM

How does the court filing apply that says LE considers quite a few involved here as POI's. I know that it's not directly out of LE's mouths, but it was stated clearly in legal documents naming names.

 

[believe09]

BBM

How does the court filing apply that says LE considers quite a few involved here as POI's. I know that it's not directly out of LE's mouths, but it was stated clearly in legal documents naming names.

I guess it depends on who you think might have contributed to the statement of facts written by the attorney...

Let's think about this-if these statements had no basis in fact, they can easily be impeached by either PPD or Bob's daughters. On the other hand, if the information is similar or the same as the information contained within the files at PPD-well then I would think Fontelle's attorney could be very comfortable making them.

 

[believe09]

So what about jail time?

I would think that it depends on the degree of involvement and how much it was covered up, and who obstructed the detectives with their various stories.

 

[believe09]

So I am wondering how the hearing date on ML King day is going to work? Gonna do some checking...

 

[believe09]

https://ocapps.occourts.org/ProbPub...-00291267-PR-CE-LJC&src=case_src_dtl#top_page

According to this link, the hearing date is 1/20/2011.

 

[believe09]

While we wait...someone once asked me how we could continue to plug away on cases like this when things move so slowly.

That is how things work in the land of the missing-Lynsie's case is an excellent example. We know this is real life, not CSI, and we know that the answer sometimes takes decades. But by and large, the answer always comes.

See, this will never go away, regardless of how the estate issues play out. It almost doesnt matter if he is found-this money is blood money. That kind of stuff eats away at you-you might think that you have convinced yourself otherwise or pushed it away-but it is always there. Look at Lynsie's killer-9 years later, a marriage and a child under his belt. And still he led LE right to her.

Just to revisit the big picture-the story was that he was taken or ran away with Georgia's hairdresser. She and her husband were completely cleared. Then the focus was new wife and HER family. They were completely cleared. PPD says this was not a stranger abduction.

What is left? And who is left standing at the end of all of this? I wonder if Bob's sister would be appointed if his immediate children and grandchild were knocked out of the running?

This is a horrible event. Terrible. And at the end of the day, it seems pretty clear how it all unfolded, and now we have a motion that lays it all out.

 

[Cubby]

BBM

How does the court filing apply that says LE considers quite a few involved here as POI's. I know that it's not directly out of LE's mouths, but it was stated clearly in legal documents naming names.

The WS rule is until LE publically names a POI or suspect we can't call anyone a POI or suspect as fact. LE has not publically named anyone a POI or suspect in Bobs case.

hth

Cubby
moderator

 

[JBean]

The WS rule is until LE publically names a POI or suspect we can't call anyone a POI or suspect as fact. LE has not publically named anyone a POI or suspect in Bobs case.

hth

Cubby
moderator

Just to clarify,sometimes a person is the obvious target of an investigation and LE does not name them a POI or a suspect. So, there are times that it is ok to refer to someone as a suspect, in layman's terms so to speak. An excellent example of this is Terri Horman. I also don't think Scott Peterson was a POI or a suspect for quite some time, yet both of these people were clear target of LE investigation and consequently referring to them as the suspect was/is acceptable. Just want to make sure everyone knows that even the rules have exceptions in some cases.

 

[believe09]

I like how Houze defined this in the Horman Case-that his client was the "de facto suspect." I think that is pretty descriptive here as well-the field may be a little broader in this case perhaps...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_interest

Normal Justice Department parlance for subjects of investigation includes "suspect," "subject" and "target."