CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - # 9

[Angelo]

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There are a pack of arm chair idiots many IPs posting slanderous comments about our father:
It struck a nerve as we know where they are posting from...
Many posters from Chittango, New York and various addresses in New York; various addresses in New Jersey as well as Glendale Heights, Illinois, Vermont, Florida, Missouri, Kansas, southern states, Calgary Canada and other places as well I will not divulge; so with that said, you want to discuss New York I get miffed in a big way you will never imagine in your entire life time how it feels for our family to be defamed by people that have never met you when you have a loved family member missing.

There that is one agitation that is out, I am done with that, I don't read what they post as this is their entire life; they sit on their arses all day and bad mouth every person that has a missing family member.

Most of whom are hired from a tiny little shaved red headed idiot attorney who talks loud and through is nose in Pasadena who's claim to fame was the Moe the Chimp case. I am now laughing at how ridiculous this sounds, but we know it is true.

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I think it is interesting that JuM's angry postings on the above ROTW thread started last night. JuM then came back on the thread this morning and seemed even more enraged. She could not drop it and was trying to provoke the original poster into replying.

 

[believe09]

Well, what am I, chopped liver? She didn't see fit to mention my location.

Of course, when surfing a forum run by people of questionable ethics, I use TOR. For awhile, for such expeditions, I "appeared" to be from Croatia but that got too slow, so I think I was probably from Norway or maybe Denmark on those tourist trips.

The reason I am cautious and use TOR for tourist trips to questionable WWW destinations is that a friend of mine had a stalker who got her personal information from the webmaster of a certain web forum. My friend finally had to get ROs in three states to scare the stalker off.

The only reason the ROs worked was because the stalker is a woman whose ex-husband has custody of their daughter (a good thing, I think). The stalker's attorney finally managed to explain to the stalker that ROs did not look good to the judge as she tried to wrest custody from her ex-husband.

Since I'm not a hired gun for any attorney (although hey, I'm always willing to sell out!), I figure a little elementary precaution with TOR is a good idea. Why even put temptation into the hands of someone who doesn't apparently enforce the TOS of their own forum?

Thank you for that Grannie. This is very good advice should there be more than one place that has this practice.

Think the FB page has been solely used to capture IP addresses as well? Perhaps that explains the lack of activity on it....it is a blind. That cant be possible-that would be detestable.

 

[charminglane]

that would be detestable.

Isn't everything here?

 

[believe09]

that would be detestable.

Isn't everything here?

Do you mean the situation, charming?

 

[charminglane]

Oh yeah!

Actually all of Websleuths is detestable in some way.
If people weren't so depraved and afraid, there would be no victims. Wouldn't that be wonderful!

 

[believe09]

Oh yeah!

Actually all of Websleuths is detestable in some way.
If people weren't so depraved and afraid, there would be no victims. Wouldn't that be wonderful!

The posters, the situations or both?

I have a lot of thoughts about what draws people to boards like this...I think there are probably as many reasons as there are posters, lol. Victims look for other victims to speak to using the anonymity online for sure. As a community we discuss the horror of the crime headlines and we try and find the story behind the story, kwim?

Situations like this one-missing people and the loss that cant really be mourned until there is a solid answer...it makes me so sad. And in a forum of missing people, this case is surely one of the worst imo because the answer is there and it appears that no one is willing to give it. That has to be incredibly frustrating for PPD. From way back here, it breaks my heart.

 

[Cubby]

There isn't much that needs to be explained when the family of a missing person attempts to intimidate and bully anyone interested in seeking answers to the mystery. Especially when a member of that family was the last person to see the missing person alive.

The behaviors speak for themself.

 

[shefner]

Well, gee whiz! Jules didn't mention my location either. But I would be happy to give it to her. If she would come down and visit, I'd be happy to lay out my case against her and her siblings in person. But she's not allowed to bring a pen and paper.....I refuse to have my possessions inventoried for future lawsuits.

 

[Cubby]

Still no update on the San Bernardino coroner's press release site as to an id made on the remains found near the 330.

For those new or newer to Mr. Harrod's case, the 330 is the highway which connects the area where Mr. Harrod resided, and where his youngest daughter and her husband, the last person to see Mr. Harrod before he disappeared, reside.

The case is now #65 at the following link:

http://www.sbcounty.gov/sheriff/coroner/pressrelease.asp

Additionally, this UID is still not appearing on NamUs.

 

[GrainneDhu]

I think it is interesting that JuM's angry postings on the above ROTW thread started last night. JuM then came back on the thread this morning and seemed even more enraged. She could not drop it and was trying to provoke the original poster into replying.

Interesting.

That goes towards proving that she has the ability to escalate her anger overnight.

And that's just over a web forum.

 

[GrainneDhu]

Thank you for that Grannie. This is very good advice should there be more than one place that has this practice.

Think the FB page has been solely used to capture IP addresses as well? Perhaps that explains the lack of activity on it....it is a blind. That cant be possible-that would be detestable.

I use TOR for any web surfing that doesn't involve sites owned by entities that seem to me to be responsible, ethical operators. My regular webpages, I don't bother since even just one bounce makes a difference in speed. But for those webpages where I suspect or know that the operators are not ethical and responsible, I'd rather not leave any tracks they can follow.

I honestly don't know if FB users can track IP addresses of people who simply view the website or only of people who join the group. I'll check into it and see if I can pick someone's brains for an answer.

If FB does allow users to track IP addresses of simple viewers... um, well. Wow.

Then again, why am I surprised? FB has a terrible, terrible reputation for respecting anyone's privacy.

That's strictly TOR territory for me.

 

[Angelo]

Court Monday. I wonder if they'll finally provide the court ordered accounting. If past behavior is indicative of future behavior, I won't be holding my breath.

Let's see what happens in court today.

 

[Angelo]

Interesting.

That goes towards proving that she has the ability to escalate her anger overnight.

And that's just over a web forum.

Exactly. The same wording is used by JuM about the discussion on the ROTW thread as was used to describe the meeting between Mr. Harrod and his daughters the day before Mr. Harrod disappeared.

We welcome newbies, it was a heated discussion last night...if the OP would have left his comments you would understand it more.


http://forums.rimoftheworld.net/sho...nna-start-a-club&p=85772&viewfull=1#post85772

 

[Oriah]

I guess I think that people should know there are boards out there where admin (presumably) will provide IP addresses to non staff. Clearly it is an attempt to chase away anyone who might be interested in this case. Clearly and blatantly this is an attempt to intimidate.

Wow. Word to the wise to those who are members I guess.

Hmm. Interesting, believe.
People should know that IP's are easily obtained by the host. And that most of the time just about anyone can ping the posters computer hostname in order to geographically locate the computer.

I'm almost more curious about why those particular IP's were troublesome/worrisome to the poster- enough so that they felt the need to point them out.

ETA: just read through previous posts, and see I am talking about what ya'll already know. Sorry for the duplication!

 

[suzyq211]

Oh yeah!

Actually all of Websleuths is detestable in some way.
If people weren't so depraved and afraid, there would be no victims. Wouldn't that be wonderful!

I think I know what you mean. On one hand, thank God for a website like this. On the other, it makes real all the horrible things that human beings do to one another.

 

[Cubby]

Anyone recall what time the court is today? Was it am or pm?

just curious

 

[believe09]

Exactly. The same wording is used by JuM about the discussion on the ROTW thread as was used to describe the meeting between Mr. Harrod and his daughters the day before Mr. Harrod disappeared.

Now I guess we know what constitutes a heated discussion. Name calling and explosive anger. File that one away.

Poor Bob.

 

[Cazzie]

Now I guess we know what constitutes a heated discussion. Name calling and explosive anger. File that one away.

Poor Bob.

All indications are that multiple people intervened in an effort to calm things down (online at you-know-where). And there were comments from some who have seen such behavior multiple times before (threatening to leave, making "last" posts, coming back like nada happened or worse, not letting it go). The only remorse (stretching that concept to the breaking point) is a post that said "it was a poor choice".

JMO, but seems like erratic, uncontrollable behavior. I feel some compassion (within reason).

There seemed to be an undercurrent of "don't upset <someone>, they are going thru so much at this time"...I would like to know exactly what that someone is going thru. :angel: Really want to know exactly. Also, I wonder if some of those sentiments were posted out of ignorance, knowledge or fear. Just speculating.

I categorize crimes against the elderly as equal to crimes against the young.



This case leaves me so sad and angry

 

[suzyq211]

I categorize crimes against the elderly as equal to crimes against the young.



This case leaves me so sad and angry

<respectfully snipped> and BBM

ME TOO!!!!!

 

[Angelo]

All indications are that multiple people intervened in an effort to calm things down (online at you-know-where). And there were comments from some who have seen such behavior multiple times before (threatening to leave, making "last" posts, coming back like nada happened or worse, not letting it go). The only remorse (stretching that concept to the breaking point) is a post that said "it was a poor choice".

JMO, but seems like erratic, uncontrollable behavior. I feel some compassion (within reason).

There seemed to be an undercurrent of "don't upset <someone>, they are going thru so much at this time"...I would like to know exactly what that someone is going thru. :angel: Really want to know exactly. Also, I wonder if some of those sentiments were posted out of ignorance, knowledge or fear. Just speculating.

I categorize crimes against the elderly as equal to crimes against the young.



This case leaves me so sad and angry

It should be noted that these kinds of postings predate Mr. Harrod's disappearance.