CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

  • #301
Most addicts don't murder their parents either.

This is true.

(Modsnip- off topic)

Also why I just know that in a double murder like these, one has to watch the other die before their eyes until they are slain, too.

My heart breaks for any family who is murdered by a family member.

JMO and experience.
 
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  • #302
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There are some details about Nick’s 2018 relapse and he details how he destroyed the contents of his guesthouse (assuming at his parents’ home).

Also about a loud argument he had with his parents the night before at a party at Conan O’Brien’s home.

It’s all so horrible.
 
  • #304
Back in the day when I was a business mentor in UK for the Princes Youth Business Trust which helped disadvantaged people set up businesses I came across a guy (I didn’t mentor him personally but a colleague did) who was 25, had struggled with severe drug addiction since he was 13, in and out of jail/rehab, kicked out of the family home and slept rough in shop doorways, really hit rock bottom. He didn’t pick up a knife and kill his parents he used his hard times and willpower to snap himself out of the life he had and set up a business to focus his mind. When we met a few years later he was a millionaire several times over, there is no excuse for drugs/mental illness to be used as an excuse for cold blooded murder - life without parole at bare minimum needed in this case

With all due respect - that's an anecdote, and an extreme outlier at that.

Just as most addicts don't murder people, most don't pull themselves out of the gutter and become millionaires.

There's a multitude of reasons one finds themselves an addict - many, if not most, can't be "snapped out of" and shaken off like a wet coat.

Drugs and mental illness have both caused people to do things they otherwise might not have since time immemorial. We don't know the remote, deeply personal struggles of each individual, nor always what's really in their heart.

I don't think it's truly possible for someone else to say what is or isn't an acceptable reason for someone with these struggles to have committed a crime.
 
  • #305
I would assume Nick had independent income from ‘Being Charlie’. I don’t know what the answer is but apparently he lived at the home of his parents, so then to potentially lose control of his finances may’ve drove him over the edge, especially if he refused treatment for his personal issues. It was already acknowledged medical intervention wasn’t helpful the first time around, so what’s left? I can see why loving parents might perceive conservatorship to be a partial remedy to deal with an addiction but in reality involuntarily separating a man from his money is likely as dangerous as the risk of domestic violence toward a departing spouse.
JMO

“One law enforcement source said that conservatorship arrangements were in the works for Nick at the time of the deaths.”
 
  • #306
Curious if the argument was about Nick asking for money ??
Most likely.

There was a case in my city a few years ago where a young-adult son broke down the door (the family had a restraining order on him) and started beating up his mother when she refused to give him any money. His 14-year-old brother, an honor student who had never been in trouble, and remains unnamed to this day although people who know the family would know who he is) grabbed a butcher knife out of the kitchen and stabbed him. He only wanted to stop his brother from assaulting his mother, but he couldn't have picked a better kill "shot" if he had tried. He had to stay in a mental health facility for a while; I don't know what happened to him later, and it's not our business either.

I've seen "The last fatal case of DV in our area was in (that year)" several times in the paper, without giving details but I know what they were.
 
  • #307
Just saw this.

Drugs it seems is the reason this happened in my opinion. I am just devastated

Nick Reiner revealed violent outburst, family issues and cocaine heart attack on 2018 podcast taping​


Nick Reiner Revealed Violent Outburst, Family Issues and Cocaine Heart Attack on 2018 Podcast Taping
 

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  • #308
So sad about their son. Another victim of drug addiction, mental illness. Such a difficult situation for parents. Leave your adult kids to live homeless on the street? Bring them home?

If nothing else, it shows that there is no real solution, even for families with a plethora of political and financial resources.
 
  • #309
The fight at the holiday party was in a restaurant.

Nick began screaming at his father in front of other diners at the posh Giorgio Baldi restaurant in Santa Monica Canyon, a worker there confirmed to The Post.

 
  • #310
The fight at the holiday party was in a restaurant.

Nick began screaming at his father in front of other diners at the posh Giorgio Baldi restaurant in Santa Monica Canyon, a worker there confirmed to The Post.
More about the party argument:

“Nick was freaking everyone out, acting crazy, kept asking people if they were famous,” an insider told People Monday, with a second source claiming to Us Weekly that he behaved “creepily” at the bash.

A third insider alleged to TMZ that the 32-year-old looked out of place at the party, wearing a hoodie to a formal party.


 
  • #311
The news is really just showing the son's picture a while back. The most recent is one of a clip of the family on a stage in front of the Spinal Tap background sign, grey. THERE you will see him as of September, very different. The note on the bottom of the vid said September. It's the family.
 
  • #312
It's heartbreaking and totally unsurprising that Nick displayed similar behavior before. We've seen time and time and time and time again how many of the people who commit violent acts displayed warning signs previously.

Here's a bit from an article about a previous episode he experienced.

Nick confirmed to Dopey host David Manheim that he was sequestered in the residence “for days on end,” eventually going “10 rounds” destroying furniture and punching the television set. “I started with the TV and then I went over to the lamp and then [progressively], just everything in the guest house got wrecked,” Nick explained of a rampage that came after his parents delivered an ultimatum that he must leave their property. He added that he couldn’t recall specific details from the incident, just that he felt “crazy” during the fit.
Nick Reiner Revealed Violent Outburst, Family Issues and “Cocaine Heart Attack” on 2018 Podcast Taping

I hate that this happened. Rob and Michele seemed like really nice people.
 
  • #313
The fight at the holiday party was in a restaurant.

Nick began screaming at his father in front of other diners at the posh Giorgio Baldi restaurant in Santa Monica Canyon, a worker there confirmed to The Post.

"Hacked"... good lord, what a tastelessly written article. Bleh!
 
  • #314
  • #315
"Hacked"... good lord, what a tastelessly written article. Bleh!
and let’s hope AI wrote that slop bc it was all over the place! I think the incident at a restaurant in Malibu was a separate incident from the Conan O’Brien soirée. But like I said that article was difficult to parse. 😅
 
  • #316
and let’s hope AI wrote that slop bc it was all over the place! I think the incident at a restaurant in Malibu was a separate incident from the Conan O’Brien soirée. But like I said that article was difficult to parse. 😅

Conan’s party was at an upscale restaurant in Santa Monica.
 
  • #317
Our whole family watched it together.
I was a very young kid in Catholic grade school when All In the Family debuted. This show was revolutionary and a cultural juggernaut, kicking off Norman Lear's groundbreaking run of shows. I will always think of Meathead fondly, and am bone deep saddened by this tragedy.
 
  • #318
The fight at the holiday party was in a restaurant.

Nick began screaming at his father in front of other diners at the posh Giorgio Baldi restaurant in Santa Monica Canyon, a worker there confirmed to The Post.

That's not how I read it--the paragraph you quoted is preceded by this:

The showdown occurred a few months after another big public argument between the dad and Nick.

So I took it to mean that the blowup at Conan's party was a few months after the blowup at the restaurant.

It's ambiguous for sure.
 
  • #319
Loved his vision of Stephen King's stories Misery and The Body (Stand By Me). RIP
 
  • #320
So sad about their son. Another victim of drug addiction, mental illness. Such a difficult situation for parents. Leave your adult kids to live homeless on the street? Bring them home?

If nothing else, it shows that there is no real solution, even for families with a plethora of political and financial resources.
Makes me wonder what is the ''right thing to do''. At one time I think it was more common to kick your kids out of the house at age 18 and let them sink or swim.
 

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