CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

  • #761
Nick Reiner has lived a life few of us will understand.

He was into drugs and into rehab very early in his teen years and it does not appear he was able to graduate from the high school he started, and was only able to after enrolling in various alternative high schools.

It does not appear that he has ever had a job. Beside the fact that he could be supported by his family, he doesn't seem to have had the incentive to pursue any vocation or job that would provide social interaction or intellectual stimulation.

He never enrolled in college as far as I can tell.

He's now 32, not 22 and he seems to be most proud of sleeping on the streets and being homeless, despite there being numerous attempts to provide a safe shelter for him. It's not like he tried to start a band, become an artist, even become an actor like his father. The film he worked on with his father was his father's idea and Nick admitted he was still using even though his father thought he was clean. Nice way to get back at his Dad.

I just wonder if these rehabs did not have the kind of professional support that could drill down to the kind of underlying mental disorder or psychosocial disorder he had. I don't think his life sounds like solely teen rebellion and drug use. I think there is a mental disorder that has been unrecognized or mis-diagnosed, or undertreated. It certainly is not uncommon for a young male teen to manifest signs of a severe mental disorder at about his age. Unfortunately, is is also not uncommon for these individuals to start on treatment, then stop when they start to feel better.

I think it is so sad that his parents believed that the "people with the degrees on the walls" were failing him by telling his parents that he was lying and manipulative. It sounds absolutely correct to me and large amounts of parental love and even permissiveness were not going to help. He's had so many stints in rehab he can recite the programs, the agreements, and game the system, only to relapse when the addiction starts to rear it's ugly head.
 
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DBM
 
  • #763
We should be prepared for a very long wait until any possible trial, as the psychiatrists enter the stage and court-ordered mental exams begin. I'm talking years of waiting for a resolution.

Beau Bruneau in Florida was finally tried after 12 years (!) and hundreds of motions and continuances. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity for the gruesome murder of his mother, and will probably spend the rest of his life in a mental hospital.
There are other similar cases I've followed, but this one took the longest to settle.
Hope I'm wrong, but I'm thinking 5-7 years until trial for NR.
 
  • #764
Oh no. I hope the daughter isn't going to backpedal and try to get her brother acquitted. Their parents gave him too much benefit of the doubt and look how they ended up.
I'm not putting anything into the daughter/sister "backpedaling" just because a tabloid says something different than another MSM (likely tabloid) source.

Also, the DA had warned against believing ANYTHING unless it comes from them, the ME, etc. His quote warning about not believing all the misinformation out there is in --> THIS <-- post.
 
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We should be prepared for a very long wait until any possible trial, as the psychiatrists enter the stage and court-ordered mental exams begin. I'm talking years of waiting for a resolution.

Beau Bruneau in Florida was finally tried after 12 years (!) and hundreds of motions and continuances. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity for the gruesome murder of his mother, and will probably spend the rest of his life in a mental hospital.
There are other similar cases I've followed, but this one took the longest to settle.
Hope I'm wrong, but I'm thinking 5-7 years until trial for NR.

There should be no bail for him.

He is a flight risk, as well as a suicide risk.

He needs to face the horrible crime he has committed.
 
  • #766
I can't see him being acquitted because the crime is just too brutal: His parents' throats slashed.

Me either. The opinion of others isn’t going to convict him, it all boils down to evidence of which LAPD must already have since he was arrested so quickly.
 
  • #767
I'm not putting anything into the daughter/sister "backpedaling" just because a tabloid says something different than another MSM (likely tabloid) source.

Also, the DA had warned against believing ANYTHING unless it comes from them, the ME, etc. His quote warning about not believing all the misinformation out there is in THIS post.
To my mind, unfortunately, it hints of circling the wagons in defense of NR. Nah, he wasn't disturbing the party, nah, he wasn't acting up lately, no way did sis say he was dangerous. The NYT wouldn't have featured Joe Schmo as anonymous family friend. It was someone important, getting a counter story out, which contradicted the many msm links we didn't have to dig up, they're everywhere.
 
  • #768
To my mind, unfortunately, it hints of circling the wagons in defense of NR. Nah, he wasn't disturbing the party, nah, he wasn't acting up lately, no way did sis say he was dangerous. The NYT wouldn't have featured Joe Schmo as anonymous family friend. It was someone important, getting a counter story out, imo.
i kind of thought that it would make sense that some of the intial reports would be wrong or exaggerated, with so many people probably talking about what happened and what they had heard had happened, rumours going around, etc. but this does make sense too! hmm
 
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  • #770
There's already talk/speculation of a possible not guilty by reason of insanity plea. If that happens, expect a very long wait, namely, years before a trial.
California courts are incredibly slow in these kind of cases.
At least he will sit in jail without bail.
 
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  • #773
No pictures allowed. As per request from lawyer ,court ordered.

Stark contrast to LM, he’s mugging for the cameras every time he can.

Wonder how long the ‘no pictures’ will last?
 
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  • #775
My heart goes out to the other children who are rarely mentioned. The daughter stated Nick was ‘dangerous’ so that suggests family dynamics were unhealthy whenever he was around. Did his offside behaviour typically deem him to be the centre of attention?

Not only did Nick erase the remaining years from his parents lives, but he stole the right to a happy and fulfilling relationship between his siblings and their parents in their senior years. Their entire family has suddenly been violently destructed. I feel a great deal of empathy for them.
I, too, keep thinking about their other children. They have likely spent their entire lives taking a backseat to NR, just like any person with a severely disabled or mentally ill or drug addicted (or even incredibly talented!) sibling has had to do. To have watched your parents pour their blood, sweat, and tears into helping your brother year, after year, after year, and then have that brother steal them from you in such a violent manner? It has got to be the most gut wrenching experience ever. The emotional pendulum must be swinging hard between rage and grief. At least, I know it would be for me.
 
  • #776
Not sure if this venue will be approved, but I found this article by a man who reported on the addiction movie made by Reiner and his son a decade ago beautifully written, and absolutely chilling:

Good article. You can feel Nick's resentment oozing out of him. Rob was proud of his son. Perhaps Nick was ashamed of his father's pride - a pride that Nick didn't deserve - and to a dysfunctional Nick, it likely reeked of smarminess.

Reminds me of an old Groucho Marx quote: "I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member".

Nick didn't fit in, and he hated his parents for pretending that he ever could, or would even want to, fit in.

JMO
 
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  • #778
Nick Reiner has lived a life few of us will understand.

He was into drugs and into rehab very early in his teen years and it does not appear he was able to graduate from the high school he started, and was only able to after enrolling in various alternative high schools.

It does not appear that he has ever had a job. Beside the fact that he could be supported by his family, he doesn't seem to have had the incentive to pursue any vocation or job that would provide social interaction or intellectual stimulation.

He never enrolled in college as far as I can tell.

He's now 32, not 22 and he seems to be most proud of sleeping on the streets and being homeless, despite there being numerous attempts to provide a safe shelter for him. It's not like he tried to start a band, become an artist, even become an actor like his father. The film he worked on with his father was his father's idea and Nick admitted he was still using even though his father thought he was clean. Nice way to get back at his Dad.

I just wonder if these rehabs did not have the kind of professional support that could drill down to the kind of mental disorder or psychosocial disorder he had. I don't think his life sounds like solely teen rebellion and drug use. I think there is a mental disorder that has been unrecognized or mis-diagnosed, or undertreated. It certainly is not uncommon for a young male teen to manifest signs of a severe mental disorder at about his age. Unfortunately, is is also not uncommon for these individuals to start on treatment, then stop when they start to feel better.

I think it is so sad that his parents believed that the "people with the degrees on the walls" were failing him by telling his parents that he was lying and manipulative. It sounds absolutely correct to me and large amounts of parental love and even permissiveness were not going to help. He's had so many stints in rehab he can recite the programs, the agreements, and game the system, only to relapse when the addiction starts to rear it's ugly head.

My 2 cents: Most people with substance abuse cannot be "saved" until they hit rock bottom. Apparently living on the streets homeless was not enough for his bottom.
 
  • #779
At the 43 second mark she says “ the court finds that the defendant has made a knowing and intelligent waiver of his right to a speedy trial”.
If he can make a knowing and an intelligent waiver decision hours after the murder how can they use an insanity defence ?
He could be competent now, but claim insanity at the time of the murders.

I highly doubt a NGRI will work though. Maybe GBMI, but still doubt it.

JMO
 
  • #780
Not sure if this venue will be approved, but I found this article by a man who reported on the addiction movie made by Reiner and his son a decade ago beautifully written, and absolutely chilling:

this was an excellent read, thank you for sharing it. Great insights by the author.
 

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