Canada -- Delta plane flips upon landing. Flight from Minneapolis. Pearson Int'l Airport. Toronto. 17 Feb 2025.

As the plane neared the airport, air traffic controllers notified its pilots of about 38 mph wind gusts. “Might be a slight bump in the glide path,” the air traffic worker said. “There will be an aircraft in front of you.”

Within two minutes, the plane had flipped. Fire erupted as the aircraft tumbled, and the plane slammed into the runway, spitting out a huge fireball and leaving passengers hung aloft in their seats

How the emergency fire fighters got there so quickly is a miracle as well
 
How the emergency fire fighters got there so quickly is a miracle as well
Airports have their own fire departments located directly on the airfield. These fire departments have the best equipment so they can deal with a major crash in case it ever occurs.

JMO and experience, working at a major airport fire department.
 
"Astonishing new footage
reveals exact moment Delta plane
- skids on landing,
- clips a wing
- then explodes into a fireball
before the entire aircraft flips over
with 80 people on board
who ALL survive."

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It is still safer than traveling by car. Many more people die in car crashes than air travel.

Indeed. Just to put some numbers on it...3 million people fly in the U.S. per day. The January crash in Washington that killed 60 passengers was the first fatal commercial airplane crash in the U.S. in 15 years. That's something like 60 deaths out of 8 billion passengers.

Meanwhile, 120 people die on the roads every day. The equivalent of two Jan 29 plane crashes. (And people still complain every time cars get a new safety feature.)
 
Here's another camera viewpoint coming out a couple of hours ago. From this view, it seems that perhaps there was an issue with the landing gear on the right hand side of the AC as it touched down. This is a very short clip of the touch down (as seen from behind the plane).

This and the additional new video seem to show that the right gear collapsed upon landing.
 
How the emergency fire fighters got there so quickly is a miracle as well
Canada, the NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board) and Pearson learnt some lessons after the crash and burning of Air France Flight 358 in 2000 at Pearson International. All 300 souls aboard survived.

Numerous Fire Crews (Red 1, Red 2, Red 3 etc) are shifted and sitting in crewed trucks at the ready at various parts of the airport as routine these days. I'd expect that possibly even more crewed trucks remain vigilant and ready to step on the gas on bad weather days vice crewing up and leaving the buidling only when a crash alarm sounds or a mayday is sent in by an AC that may be experiencing a known issue coming in to land (landing gear failure for example).



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It will be interesting to learn what the FDR (Flight Data Recorder) shows during the landing sequence. Looking at the videos posted showing the plane landing, in my opinion, one of three things happened.

  1. Hard Landing (pilot error).
  2. Aerodynamic Stall just prior to landing due to insufficient airspeed and or stall due to gusty winds causing a hard landing.
  3. Hard landing caused by loss of lift due to Wake Turbulence. (This is the bump in the glide path ATC was warning the pilots about when cleared to land)
Looking at the videos coming to light showing the plane landing, it is obvious the plane experienced a hard landing. This is also confirmed by one of the passengers that was later interviewed. This accident had nothing to do with runway conditions. The accident happened the moment the plane struck the runway, not during roll out.

The plane was landing on RWY 23, which is situated on a 237 degree true heading. The winds at the time were from the W (270°) at 20 kt (10.3 m/s, 23.0 mph) gusting to 32 (16.5 m/s, 36.8 mph). The cross wind component was a 33 degree cross wind from the right at 10.89 and 17.43 knots at peak gust. Well withing the cross wind limitation of the CRJ900. The cross wind from the right would correspond with a right wing low attitude for the plane while landing to correct for the right cross wind.

In the videos you can see the plane is in a right bank (right wing low) when the plane struck the ground. The spark seen when the plane hit the ground are likely from the landing gear when the tire blew out. This caused the right landing gear to come in contact with the runway. Causing the landing gear to fail and collapse, causing the wing to contact the ground, which caused the wing to be torn off the plane. This will all be confirmed by the Canadian version of the NTSB from the ground scars left on the runway and adjacent areas.

So the question is, was the hard landing caused by a stall due to insufficient air speed, loss of lift due to Wake Turbulence generated from the plane landing ahead of them or pilot error for not flaring prior to touch down and literately fling the plane into the ground, which in turn blew out the tire, causing damage to the wing.

Looking at the videos the plane seems to have had plenty of speed and in a nose down attitude, so I'm ruling out a stall due to insufficient airspeed. But the plane could have stalled just before touch down due to wind gust or lack of.

Considering the cross winds at the time, in my opinion, the Wake Turbulence Vortices from a plane landing ahead of this plane would have been blown clear of the runway prior to the CRJ's arrival. So I'm ruling out Wake Turbulence as the cause of the accident.

Which IMO only leaves pilot error as the cause of this accident.

As for why the plane flipped over. The left wing was still producing lift. Without the right wing producing lift to balance the lift of the left wing, the plane rolled to the right becoming inverted.

JMO

 
"Astonishing new footage
reveals exact moment Delta plane
- skids on landing,
- clips a wing
- then explodes into a fireball
before the entire aircraft flips over
with 80 people on board
who ALL survive."

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Fire Chief Todd Aitken urged the public not to speculate about the cause of the crash as the investigation is being conducted.

He said the runway was 'dry' at the time of the crash.

'This is an active investigation. It's very early on. It's important that we do not speculate. What we can say, is the runway was dry and there was no crosswind conditions,' he said.
 
Fire Chief Todd Aitken urged the public not to speculate about the cause of the crash as the investigation is being conducted.

He said the runway was 'dry' at the time of the crash.

'This is an active investigation. It's very early on. It's important that we do not speculate. What we can say, is the runway was dry and there was no crosswind conditions,' he said.
This is interesting. First of all, of course we are going to speculate! LOL. It is what we do. But as to the wind comment, the video shows the wind blowing strong. Now, it does appear in this video where this guy was parked, it would be a head wind. But it is blowing strong. That should have increased lift. But was the wind the same on the runway? Where I live we often get gusts that come from various directions very strong. I wonder if there was a sudden shift of wind over the runway. It seems like a normal landing until that last instant and the plane seems to hit the runway hard.
 
This is interesting. First of all, of course we are going to speculate! LOL. It is what we do. But as to the wind comment, the video shows the wind blowing strong. Now, it does appear in this video where this guy was parked, it would be a head wind. But it is blowing strong. That should have increased lift. But was the wind the same on the runway? Where I live we often get gusts that come from various directions very strong. I wonder if there was a sudden shift of wind over the runway. It seems like a normal landing until that last instant and the plane seems to hit the runway hard.
Asking the public not to speculate is truly a hoot!!! of course the public will speculate!!!
The investigators won't speculate though and that is appropriate: the NTSB are very thorough and they will get to the bottom of what caused the plane crash. In the meantime, speculate away!!!!
 

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