CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lily Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #2

[Bounceycat]

Speaking legally if you take him at his word that CPS actually said “he can’t see the child” then it is because they are involved and have a belief him contacting the child could cause harm otherwise they wouldn’t be allowed to interject. If he was just going there hoping they would mediate a visit they would have to tell him they can’t involve themselves in the issue.

Or he could possibly be NOT on the birth certificate, meaning no legal rights...

 

[AIGT]

Or he could possibly be NOT on the birth certificate, meaning no legal rights...

Anything is possible. He seems to lessen the blow with a follow up statement every time he talks. With this one it would’ve been much easier to say paperwork issues if that was the case.

 

[seasideForest]

Why did his friend have to drive him to CPS? Does he not have a car?

Maybe he was too upset and shaken up to drive safely and carefully? I don't mean that in a deprecating way at all. It's an awful situation for him and different people react differently. Maybe his friend wanted to offer emotional support and thought that would be a good way?
I think it's unlikely that he didn't have a car in any part of rural Canada.

MOO

 

[AIGT]

What is everyone’s opinion on the reporting around this?

In my opinion it feels like they hardly ask any questions and never any follow up questions.

I can see being cautious of grilling a victim but in this case Mr. Martell seems open to talking and wanting to talk to clear his name so why not ask some real questions?

Even some simple clarifying questions would clear up some of the speculation.

I feel like if this was happening in the states the media would be taking a different approach.

 

[Can_Sleuth]

Maybe he was too upset and shaken up to drive safely and carefully? I don't mean that in a deprecating way at all. It's an awful situation for him and different people react differently. Maybe his friend wanted to offer emotional support and thought that would be a good way?
I think it's unlikely that he didn't have a car in any part of rural Canada.

MOO

Could be a number of reasons. No gas, insurance recently expired, mechanical problem, didn’t have a car seat for the baby but friend did and didn’t want to uninstall/reinstall.

 

[FansBlowing]

@FansBlowing How does this suggest they’re looking for abduction?

I was thinking about geofencing. That's where the police do not need a suspect's cell phone. They can identify all cell phones within a given area within a certain timeframe and then identify the owners of those phones. So, of course, they will look at the morning the kids went missing, but I suspect they will identify all visitors since the last time anyone besides mom and dad saw those kids.

 

[ttjo]

I’ve seen police here in Canada say that to victims personally. It’s not because they’re being cold or heartless, it’s because it is very difficult to get a conviction in Canadian courts and they don’t want to risk having people get off on a technicality or delay.

Here our courts are very backed up. If they can’t make a decision within 18 months, the whole case is thrown out and the accused gets off scott free. (With some exceptions).

That sounds more like civil? with a 2 yr statute of limitations. Crown Prosecutors here have an ethical duty to prosecute if evidence permits. for many reasons but one reason is that they have an ethical obligation to maintain the publics faith in the justice system.
I know all you Americans are probably laughing right now because Canada is known for being lax. lol
I havent heard of them throwing out a case b/c of time, or for fear of losing on a technicality, They do consider likelihood of conviction?

2.2 Duties and Responsibilities of Crown Counsel - PPSC

Department of Justice Canada's Internet site

www.ppsc-sppc.gc.ca

 

[ttjo]

What is everyone’s opinion on the reporting around this?

In my opinion it feels like they hardly ask any questions and never any follow up questions.

I can see being cautious of grilling a victim but in this case Mr. Martell seems open to talking and wanting to talk to clear his name so why not ask some real questions?

Even some simple clarifying questions would clear up some of the speculation.

I feel like if this was happening in the states the media would be taking a different approach.

I did notice at the press conference some of the questions were about things they already explained..

 

[ttjo]

I think they are referring to the Jordan ruling.

AH ok, I understand now, thanks for clarifying and posting the refresheer on jordan sometimes I get that confused with the Gladue principle.
Both of which apply to the indigenous population, I thought he was talking about mainstream.
Sorry @aajimo for misunderstanding.

 

[seasideForest]

Well no matter how you look at it facts are facts ??the children have dissappeared and no one seems to know nothing!!If they have searched all the area around were they presume the children were at then were are they?? Taken perhaps a maybe who knows and what would be reasoning behind it??

The following article sheds some light on reasons for the children not having been found up until now. MOO

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/missing-person-expert-lansdowne-station-search-1.7531338

 

[Ontario Mom]

What is everyone’s opinion on the reporting around this?

In my opinion it feels like they hardly ask any questions and never any follow up questions.

I can see being cautious of grilling a victim but in this case Mr. Martell seems open to talking and wanting to talk to clear his name so why not ask some real questions?

Even some simple clarifying questions would clear up some of the speculation.

I feel like if this was happening in the states the media would be taking a different approach.

It seems pretty typical of the media reporting here in Canada.
US media tends to be more forward.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Anything is possible. He seems to lessen the blow with a follow up statement every time he talks. With this one it would’ve been much easier to say paperwork issues if that was the case.

I noticed it as well because my son is sort of like this. It's like there's a backstory to everything for more clarity. I think in this case it's just the way he (DM) speaks.

 

[Warden23]

What is everyone’s opinion on the reporting around this?

In my opinion it feels like they hardly ask any questions and never any follow up questions.

I can see being cautious of grilling a victim but in this case Mr. Martell seems open to talking and wanting to talk to clear his name so why not ask some real questions?

Even some simple clarifying questions would clear up some of the speculation.

I feel like if this was happening in the states the media would be taking a different approach.

Hey there, new user, but I've lurked since the start of this case. My dad was an award-winning journalist, and I went on to work in childcare followed by being a legal assistant, and we live in the area, so I signed on to help clear things up, because I feel like I can really help out with some confusion here.
You're right, things would be handled differently by media in the States. We don't do it that way here. Here it's not the public's right to know all the details, and until it goes to the courts, you'll probably not know.

 

[seasideForest]

What is everyone’s opinion on the reporting around this?

In my opinion it feels like they hardly ask any questions and never any follow up questions.

I can see being cautious of grilling a victim but in this case Mr. Martell seems open to talking and wanting to talk to clear his name so why not ask some real questions?

Even some simple clarifying questions would clear up some of the speculation.

I feel like if this was happening in the states the media would be taking a different approach.

As at least one person wrote further back in thread, it's typical for Canada. I would add Canada isn't the US and doesn't need to copy it either.

Nor do Websleuthers need all the details, even if they'd like them. Let the courts do that later. MOO

 

[AIGT]

Hey there, new user, but I've lurked since the start of this case. My dad was an award-winning journalist, and I went on to work in childcare followed by being a legal assistant, and we live in the area, so I signed on to help clear things up, because I feel like I can really help out with some confusion here.
You're right, things would be handled differently by media in the States. We don't do it that way here. Here it's not the public's right to know all the details, and until it goes to the courts, you'll probably not know.

I’m Canadian as well. I agree the public is not in some way entitled to know everything. My thought with this case is different in that he clearly wants to speak and get his story out so there is no reason why the media should be shy about asking questions. The his answers have only led to more speculation that I feel could’ve been cleared up if he was asked certain follow up questions.

 

[Can_Sleuth]

I noticed it as well because my son is sort of like this. It's like there's a backstory to everything for more clarity. I think in this case it's just the way he (DM) speaks.

IME, this is common in autistic folks, who tend to value accuracy in speech. It often comes off as over explaining to neurotypical people, when it’s the speaker trying to make sure they’re not being misunderstood.

 

[AIGT]

As at least one person wrote further back in thread, it's typical for Canada. I would add Canada isn't the US and doesn't need to copy it either.

Nor do Websleuthers need all the details, even if they'd like them. Let the courts do that later. MOO

Like I mentioned to another - I agree the public is not in some way entitled to know everything. My thought with this case is different in that he clearly wants to speak and get his story out so there is no reason why the media should be shy about asking questions. His answers have only led to more speculation that I feel could’ve been cleared up if he was asked certain follow up questions.

 

[GypsySoulAL]

Does anyone know what day of the week the trash runs? Locals, perhaps?

Thank you.

 

[seasideForest]

Like I mentioned to another - I agree the public is not in some way entitled to know everything. My thought with this case is different in that he clearly wants to speak and get his story out so there is no reason why the media should be shy about asking questions. His answers have only led to more speculation that I feel could’ve been cleared up if he was asked certain follow up questions.

He might tie himself in further knots and inconsistencies, as was the case with Summer Wells' father, which led to more and more speculation. That doesn't even mean DM is guilty of something as far as I'm concerned. JMO

 

[AIGT]

He might tie himself in further knots and inconsistencies, as was the case with Summer Wells' father, which led to more and more speculation. That doesn't even mean DM is guilty of something as far as I'm concerned. JMO

Yes that is also possible.

Just my opinion - If he wants to talk then let him talk and ask more questions.
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