Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #17

[BipolarGirlfriend]

As for what Bryer is drinking in that one pic, I can't tell. But I have always assumed it was vodka. To match the Slav squat pose. MOO

The bottle he's holding is Russian standard vodka and the can in the back is presidents choice gingerale.

 

[NJSleuth91]

Yes it’s an extremely happy picture of them together. Maybe that’s the point.... they were happy doing what they were doing together till the end. I mean, who really knows. As for the butterflies, it’s just interesting since a few posters believe the picture was changed while they were joy riding.

It could be, although neither of them looked particularly happy during their "joyride," Kam especially.

And I don’t think they were the brightest bulbs on the tree, but I disagree with trailer park boys dumb. Admittedly tho, K & B knowing butterfly symbolism is a long shot. MOO

Yeah that's a bit of an exaggeration. Although, they did make some monumentally stupid decisions, and also neither of them seemed to have a firm grasp on the written English language, going by the few comments they wrote on social media.

 

[ErinBat]

They clearly had a bond. The picture represents that. I think it’s hard to say what level it was on. It may have been more one sided, with a dominant partner. I feel like regardless they both were fully willing participants though, and perhaps one brought out a something that otherwise would’ve been left to fantasy.

 

[MistyWaters]

Pickton's case. After the first long trial, he still faced more murder charges. After the Crown stayed those charges, they released alot of information.

Okay, I don’t recall anything other than a lot of evidence withheld from the jury during voir dire because the judge ruled against it. But then it was reported by the media after the trial concluded. However you could be right.

However in this instance the Crown is not involved because there will be no trial or prosecution so anything obtained under FOI would be obtained directly from police files. The link I posted didn’t indicate police investigative files fall under FOI.

In some States in the US such as Florida with its Sunshine Laws information is readily disclosed. However in Canada obtaining information from governments, agencies, divisions or departments by the media is one of their continued and ongoing chronic complaints. When documents are released, the vast majority is often blacked out due to our stringent Privacy and Confidentiality legislation.

 

[Jan424]

I wonder what the snapchats cat and dog filters are symbolic of?

Good question.... when you find out let me know.

 

[musicaljoke]

The RCMP needs to release some information. I understand their intentions to to do a full investigation but I find it a bit ridiculous and somewhat suspicious that they are holding back this long.

RCMP truly doesn't need to release information until they have completed their investigation. Frankly, even though I am terribly curious and longing for closure, I'd rather read a fully investigated and well-researched report than a bunch of unrelated details that may or may not be totally verified.

 

[FactFinder3000]

Perhaps the butterfly thing is some kind of prank that went unnoticed. It's like the opposite of what Bryer wanted to project, I would think. That slav squat is supposed to be all gangster, apparently. And yes, that's a bottle of full strength Russian Standard vodka he's holding. It looks like the lid is on, though, so it's not like he's guzzling it.

 

[Zella]

The bottle he's holding is Russian standard vodka and the can in the back is presidents choice gingerale.

Thank you! Good eye!

Bryer always seems to have an assortment of soda cans surrounding him in pictures.

 

[Jan424]

In my mind the butterfly picture is symbolic of how it was the two of them together until the end.

Edited to remove quote but I’ll say Sherlock Holme’s theory is so simple yet it makes a lot of sense.

I definitely could see that, no question.

 

[Jan424]

The bottle he's holding is Russian standard vodka and the can in the back is presidents choice gingerale.

Thank you! I was trying to figure all that out too!

 

[Optics]

chances are Kam's family knew about the trip and gave them the truck/camper and probably the money also.

Yes I agree, and what dawned on me is how disrespectful to get a camper and a truck from parents, and then set it on fire and destroy it. I don't think they can even get insurance paid out on it either now seeing as they committed 'crimes against humanity'

 

[Optics]

So yea, I have to agree, if this all just started as a robbery gone from bad to worse to horrific, how can they keep that level of cool? MOO, for sure.

So if you feel its a 'robbery' what exactly do you think they were trying to rob? They had enough cash, and they had good transporation........

 

[NJSleuth91]

Yes I agree, and what dawned on me is how disrespectful to get a camper and a truck from parents, and then set it on fire and destroy it. I don't think they can even get insurance paid out on it either now seeing as they committed 'crimes against humanity'

I think respecting Kam's parents was low on the list of priorities, and I think getting an insurance payout on the vehicle is low on the list of the McLeod family's priorities.

 

[NJSleuth91]

So if you feel its a 'robbery' what exactly do you think they were trying to rob? They had enough cash, and they had good transporation........

Just to see if they could do it. Armed robbery has sort of a glamour and romanticism about it in pop culture. The reality, of course, is not nearly as cinematic.

 

[Optics]

The RCMP needs to release some information. I understand their intentions to to do a full investigation but I find it a bit ridiculous and somewhat suspicious that they are holding back this long.

There are things such as forensics evidence testing to get back to them, for one thing. The RCMP have always been absolutely straight forward with the public and consistent in saying adamantly this is a "fluid", a "complex", a "multi-province" case. I don't think they can just snap their fingers and give us all the answers. Simply the suicide scene and evidence from there alone requires going over. There is absolutely nothing suspicious or sneaky about it taking this long (which really isn't long) we are just very impatience interested public people who think they can give us all the answers overnight LOL.

 

[acutename]

This makes the most sense to me regarding it being a planned trip. Particularly the computer towers going with them .... I always thought they didn't want anyone to get their hands on them (particularly law enforcement) to discover anything they might have done or searched online. JMO

curious to see if they were savy enough to really erase all records of the activities... expect not

 

[Optics]

Just to see if they could do it. Armed robbery has sort of a glamour and romanticism about it in pop culture. The reality, of course, is not nearly as cinematic.

I have been of the mindset that a 'thrill kill adventure' was more glamour and romanticism in terms of their mentality and mindset of video gaming and survivalist stuff lol.

 

[Pyecraft]

There are things such as forensics evidence testing to get back to them, for one thing. The RCMP have always been absolutely straight forward with the public and consistent in saying adamantly this is a "fluid", a "complex", a "multi-province" case. I don't think they can just snap their fingers and give us all the answers. Simply the suicide scene and evidence from there alone requires going over. There is absolutely nothing suspicious or sneaky about it taking this long (which really isn't long) we are just very impatience interested public people who think they can give us all the answers overnight LOL.

‘Murder is not a private matter’: RCMP owe public more answers about suspected B.C. killers, critics say | The Star

Some of us Canadians seem to disagree with you here.

 

[NJSleuth91]

curious to see if they were savy enough to really erase all records of the activities... expect not

LOL yeah right. If there was any online activity related to planning the murders, the RCMP probably knew about it back in July.

 

[ErinBat]

I understand things such as forensics take time, I feel as though this is excessive. JMO.
The RCMP have a history of being what I’d characterize as secretive. It makes me wonder if they’re hiding something. I think the ultimate result is correct but they hid so many details along the way that it made capture (before death) impossible. My OP