CANADA Canada - Sonia Varaschin, 42, Orangeville, 29 Aug 2010 - #2

[Deleted member 102539]

Shelley - no town house, no murder, no trails of worker boots, no car, no dumping.

Seems as the perp knows Sonia well and Shelley perhaps not at all - if there is only one suspected perp of the crime.

Pic of a man with reddish blond hair, seen in Mono near Shelley and Orangeville near Sonia.

 

[2soccermom]

I think he really panicked and took these risks. He took them because?

About the "risks": I think, in the context of what we think we know, these were "calculated" (if possibly after the fact). The general consensus is that the perp(s) drove Sonia's car back to town because he lived in the area and had to walk home OR (as I believe) to get back to his own vehicle. This means that if he did NOT take her car, he would be walking in the streets covered in blood (likely) and MUCH more visible -- in a car, you don't notice people in the same way potential witnesses might "remember" someone walking the streets late at night. Especially if he was covered in blood! A description of someone on foot is much more detailed than from a car flashing by -- especially since the car to be identified in the specific area was not his own but Sonia's (I believe he did not put her in his own car to avoid DNA in his own.)

I agree with your spec, DW, that removing Sonia's body may make sense if he had some association with her and/or with the house complex. But it may also simply be so that LE might not launch a murder investigation right away (they didn't). Instead, folks were distracted by a "missing persons" case. This bought the perp(s) time to establish an alibi, lay low, get rid of physical evidence (burn/rid clothes, boots etc), recover any physical injuries from the scene like scratches on the face or hands or....

These "risks" all seem like cold, frighteningly "logical" responses to me. To not only murder such a beautiful, vivacious, beloved person but to leave her body on the side of the road requires a particular kind of brute (emotional) force. IF these are "risky" behaviours, they are still not "illogical" to me -- and I agree with you, DW: the more we can understand the prospective reasons for the actions the closer we get to a more accurate profile.

 

[dreamwatcher]

quote Soccermom2: "I agree with your spec, DW, that removing Sonia's body may make sense if he had some association with her and/or with the house complex. But it may also simply be so that LE might not launch a murder investigation right away (they didn't). Instead, folks were distracted by a "missing persons" case. This bought the perp(s) time to establish an alibi, lay low, get rid of physical evidence (burn/rid clothes, boots etc), recover any physical injuries from the scene like scratches on the face or hands or.... unquote.

It could be all of the above and still make sense. Distract, delay and hide - but first get rid of her remains so that there is no connection to him - of which I have outlined in my post.

This to me, makes the most sense. And yes, the killer thought things through even in a panic state - he was able to come up with a "rough plan" that worked. He delayed it (the discovery of her body)

Please note: He did not bury her, he literally dumped her on a side road. Panic state. He dumped her quilt up the road from where her body was found, once again - not thinking - had to stop and get rid of the quilt. Semi- panic state by this time.

Returned her car to O'ville - Might be thinking a bit clearer by this time - relieved that he didn't get caught.

 

[dreamwatcher]

I have to admit - this killer so far, is one lucky guy. I doubt if he is even living in the area, might of left the Province, shortly after, and certainly left one year later when dna was being collected. I know that Ontario people assume that he would never leave the comforts of his Province, but on the other hand, it is lovely living in other provinces.

May be living somewhere "out west" or on BC Coast. (The weather is beautiful in BC) Killers like their comfort.....

It is interesting to me that OPP has said that this investigation is multi- jurisdictional, meaning that it is open to all police forces. However, they did not say, that this includes all of Canada. Are they sticking with Ontario only?

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I have to admit - this killer so far, is one lucky guy. I doubt if he is even living in the area, might of left the Province, shortly after, and certainly left one year later when dna was being collected. I know that Ontario people assume that he would never leave the comforts of his Province, but on the other hand, it is lovely living in other provinces.

May be living somewhere "out west" or on BC Coast. (The weather is beautiful in BC) Killers like their comfort.....

It is interesting to me that OPP has said that this investigation is multi- jurisdictional, meaning that it is open to all police forces. However, they did not say, that this includes all of Canada. Are they sticking with Ontario only?

SV on wednesday awaited a visitor from Alberta (CADS, skying) and had asked her mother for a homemade cake (if I remember well).

 

[dreamwatcher]

I had no idea that the person to visit SV from Jasper was associated with CADS. Where did that info come from?

:thinking:

 

[Sillybilly]

I had no idea that the person to visit SV from Jasper was associated with CADS. Where did that info come from?

:thinking:

We know nothing about the person who was to visit from Jasper other than they were expected on Wednesday, and the request for Mom to bake the cake. I think FG's bracketing may be just questioning/wondering if that person may have possibly been affiliated with CADS or skiing .. not meaning that we have that knowledge.

hth

 

[Deleted member 102539]

We know nothing about the person who was to visit from Jasper other than they were expected on Wednesday, and the request for Mom to bake the cake. I think FG's bracketing may be just questioning/wondering if that person may have possibly been affiliated with CADS or skiing .. not meaning that we have that knowledge.

hth

Yes, thank you! I should have used a ?, because nobody knows exactly. :blushing:

 

[dreamwatcher]

I have often thought about the anticipated visitor on the Wednesday. Was this person en route at the time? It would of been awful if she/he had arrived, only to discover that Sonia was missing. Hopefully, she/he learned about prior to leaving for Orangeville.

I wonder if there are any tips coming into law enforcement giving the possible identities of the two men at the gazebo, shown in the grainy video ?? Has anyone heard anything in that regard? :banghead:

 

[dreamwatcher]

If no one comes forward to identify these two, I am afraid that this case will lay dormant for years to come. The killer must be smirking about the whole situation.... feeling smug and clever.

He has convinced himself (in his own sick mind) that "she got what she deserved". IMO

He hasn't bragged about it to anyone...... he has remained very quiet over the past four years.
Not another similar murder to compare it to within the province. Comparisons are being made all of the time, according to the police, and so far nothing.

 

[dotr]

If no one comes forward to identify these two, I am afraid that this case will lay dormant for years to come. The killer must be smirking about the whole situation.... feeling smug and clever.

He has convinced himself (in his own sick mind) that "she got what she deserved". IMO

He hasn't bragged about it to anyone...... he has remained very quiet over the past four years.
Not another similar murder to compare it to within the province. Comparisons are being made all of the time, according to the police, and so far nothing.

Any chance this was a " murder for hire ,"?

 

[dreamwatcher]

I think that if it was a murder for hire - a gun might have been used? Less work - and her remains would have been left in her home. Also fast, and less work than removing them, etc.
JMO. But who knows?..... A cold blooded killer? Could be.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Does anybody know whether a deceased person (ie suicide) gets taken fingerprints/DNA?
Maybe the murderer of some person (Sonia) isn't living anymore; how to find him??

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Any chance this was a " murder for hire ,"?

I don't think so. Why so violent and brutal then? We don't know exactly, but in her home there obviously was a lot of blood.

 

[dotr]

I don't think so. Why so violent and brutal then? We don't know exactly, but in her home there obviously was a lot of blood.

Not that I think it was a murder for hire, but if it was one, maybe a young novice gangster, got carried away with ' liquid courage" and committed a botched murder.
So " unprofessional " and messy a killing, that it ironically makes it difficult to solve.
Beginner's luck, for now...

 

[dreamwatcher]

I don't think it was a murder for hire, but I too have often wondered if her killer has committed suicide, or if he is in jail for another crime to serve his time (other than murder of course).
Or he may have left the country and missed the dna swoop, which took place one year after her death.

I think he is still living, and is out of reach of the law. IMHO

 

[dreamwatcher]

I wonder what type of a man Sonia would be attracted to ? (keeping in mind her being on dating web sites) Tall, short, dark, fair? Professional or trades? In her own age group (40's?). Strictly single, or divorced, or taking a chance on a separated man? Outdoor type, brainy type?

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I wonder what type of a man Sonia would be attracted to ? (keeping in mind her being on dating web sites) Tall, short, dark, fair? Professional or trades? In her own age group (40's?). Strictly single, or divorced, or taking a chance on a separated man? Outdoor type, brainy type?

Maybe outdoor type (because of her own hobbies), maybe divorced with children (because of her caring for children).
But: Why dating a man, when her on/off friend is listed in the obituary and therefore seems more on than off?

 

[dreamwatcher]

I would say that they would have to share some common interests. Don't they list their areas of interest on dating sites?

She loved to bike (and so would he?) she loved to dance (and perhaps he would too - but not necessarily - as she was into zhumba dancing. But he would certainly be prepared to sit it out and watch? I would think he would love to hike - Sonia also loved to hike, perhaps he too would like to hike? Might even enjoy skiing - but not necessarily. He might be the type to sit in the chalet and sip a drink or two?
Her father was a tradesman, of whom she adored - so perhaps he could be a tradesman. Sonia would feel comfortable around a tradesman.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

WS: Wright/Gable Tostee, met on Tinder

Maybe that was another freak in case Sonia ... She certainly was very attractive to many men!


http://www.datepro.com/is-pof-responsible-for-murder/

A Toronto Star article recently discussed the idea that a Canadian woman named Sonia Varaschin, who was found dead on September 5th of last year, might have met her murderer on POF earlier that year. The article claims that of the many dating sites Varaschin visited, she most frequently used PlentyofFish to meet men although she had an on-again-off-again boyfriend at the time, thus the reason they are questioning many of the men that she made contact with during her time on the site.