Canada - USA Trade War commencing March 2025 #2

[BayouBelle_LA]

dont forget the Canada is broken The healthcare is broken The housing is broken The whatever PP says is broken seems to have mended since the ....What Happened???...dam hes good all that behind closed doors...sorry but PP is trump wanabe in my eyes...

That sounds like a positive. moo

 

[ekc]

That sounds like a positive. moo

think again....just a thought

 

[SouthAussie]

dont forget the Canada is broken The healthcare is broken The housing is broken The whatever PP says is broken seems to have mended since the ....What Happened???...dam hes good all that behind closed doors...sorry but PP is trump wanabe in my eyes...

Not only is PPs style now taking a backseat, but Trump's chaos is galvanising and uniting moderate leaders around the world, bringing them to the forefront of popularity.
Nobody needs or wants Trump's kind of chaos. These tariffs and claims of "51st state", "Greenland", "Panama", have shined a light on his destructive ways. imo

This article that I have screenshot and linked says how much Trump’s sweeping tariffs and threats to the trans-Atlantic alliance have breathed life into centrist leaders - that they are regaining popularity for their willingness to stand up to Trump.

An Unexpected Trump Bump for the World’s Centrists

As President Trump’s “shock and awe” policies radiate around the world, they are galvanizing support for moderate leaders and unifying Europe.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Trooper]

Greenland has comprehensively told Trump that his ridiculous trumpeting has met stone cold rejection among the population of Greenland, who are, in the main, a highly adaptable people, most of whom speak several languages fluently, and who maintain a lifestyle not without challenge but with courage and kindness,, such could not be said about the current population in the USA , who are coming off in the world eyes as rapacious, greedy and if not totally mad, then 75% mad.

It is very distressing to see the folks in the USA portrayed as weak and permanently 'victimised',.. as a nation of 'marks' apparently being blind all these years to everyone, EVERYONE ripping them off and treating them badly... They've been telling us all how smart they are, and we believed them, now the story is they were dumb the whole time... ........

AMericans as victims just does not gel, in any way.. I suspect they are being worn down, to their knees so that they will imagine a saviour riding in a white horse, to rescue them, and guess who that will be?? this constant harping on how only one person can save them is so utterly asinine and so kindergartenish, it just defies logic how it is being swallowed... AMericans are better than this..

BTW, Australia is going to ban BLUEY from the USA< all the kiddies from California to Maine can begin crying now.

 

[otto]

dont forget the Canada is broken The healthcare is broken The housing is broken The whatever PP says is broken seems to have mended since the ....What Happened???...dam hes good all that behind closed doors...sorry but PP is trump wanabe in my eyes...

Canada is only "broken", if that is the correct word, since Stephen Harper was replaced. At that time, Putin was angry that Canada was so strong. Ten year later, under Trudeau, Putin is looking at Canada as Ukraine 2.0.

Carney, in his first act as prime minister, dropped the consumer carbon tax ... but the carbon tax is not gone. Carbon tax rebates are gone. The tax remains, but it will have a new name. Carney must think that Conservatives having nothing more to offer than to remove the tax, so getting rid of carbon tax means Conservatives will now vote Liberal?

Carney's first responsible act should have been calling an election. Carney is not elected. He should not be running the country any longer than is necessary.

 

[keek]

Greenland has comprehensively told Trump that his ridiculous trumpeting has met stone cold rejection among the population of Greenland, who are, in the main, a highly adaptable people, most of whom speak several languages fluently, and who maintain a lifestyle not without challenge but with courage and kindness,, such could not be said about the current population in the USA , who are coming off in the world eyes as rapacious, greedy and if not totally mad, then 75% mad.

It is very distressing to see the folks in the USA portrayed as weak and permanently 'victimised',.. as a nation of 'marks' apparently being blind all these years to everyone, EVERYONE ripping them off and treating them badly... They've been telling us all how smart they are, and we believed them, now the story is they were dumb the whole time... ........

AMericans as victims just does not gel, in any way.. I suspect they are being worn down, to their knees so that they will imagine a saviour riding in a white horse, to rescue them, and guess who that will be?? this constant harping on how only one person can save them is so utterly asinine and so kindergartenish, it just defies logic how it is being swallowed... AMericans are better than this..

BTW, Australia is going to ban BLUEY from the USA< all the kiddies from California to Maine can begin crying now.

NO. I LOVE Bluey. Watching with grand. Something we enjoy together. Great little show for all, if watching with a little anyway. That cannot be true, that is an OVERREACH. She has Bluey hoodie we bought shopping together, way big on her but she wanted it that way and loves it. I am rambling and do not do that Australia to the good people of America, it is a great learning show.

 

[LovesPeace2]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-carney-drops-carbon-tax-1.7484290

Carbon tax is gone

 

[otto]

I'm curious whether the Conservatives would keep the deal to buy military equipment from the USA. The problem is that the USA, a country that cannot be trusted, could decide to disable, or not update, the equipment at any time.

"Canada is actively looking at potential alternatives to the U.S-built F-35 stealth fighter and will hold conversations with rival aircraft makers, Defence Minister Bill Blair said late Friday, just hours after being reappointed to the post as part of Prime Minister Mark Carney's new cabinet.
...

There has been a groundswell of support among Canadians to kill the $19-billion purchase and find aircraft other than those manufactured and maintained in the United States."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/f35-blair-trump-1.7484477

 

[Trooper]

NO. I LOVE Bluey. Watching with grand. Something we enjoy together. Great little show for all, if watching with a little anyway. That cannot be true, that is an OVERREACH. She has Bluey hoodie we bought shopping together, way big on her but she wanted it that way and loves it. I am rambling and do not do that Australia to the good people of America, it is a great learning show.

Mate.... we play it tuff.. Whatever we have in the chamber, we fire it off.

 

[Trooper]

How I would love to be an earwig on the walls of the CCCP meeting room.. The Chinese, as befits a nation that runs to 1.42 billion citizens, works on a 10 year plan.. they've had their beady eyes on Trump since 2016, particularly in regard to the Panama Canal.

They would have factored him being President again, and worked out a strategy and tactics that suit them perfectly, and as things stand they are the main benficiary's of Trump';s tariff nonsense. . They are very very good customers, they pay their bills, they consult and if necessary , compromise and negotiate, they do not renege on contracts, and they don't sling off rudely and untruthfully to their suppliers.

They are building a 21 st century nation, requiring steel and aluminium and lumber and raw earth minerals, all the stuff that it takes, and nothing will interrupt that program. Not the USA, or anyone.

 

[LovesPeace2]

I'm curious whether the Conservatives would keep the deal to buy military equipment from the USA. The problem is that the USA, a country that cannot be trusted, could decide to disable, or not update, the equipment at any time.

"Canada is actively looking at potential alternatives to the U.S-built F-35 stealth fighter and will hold conversations with rival aircraft makers, Defence Minister Bill Blair said late Friday, just hours after being reappointed to the post as part of Prime Minister Mark Carney's new cabinet.
...

There has been a groundswell of support among Canadians to kill the $19-billion purchase and find aircraft other than those manufactured and maintained in the United States."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/f35-blair-trump-1.7484477

I wonder if they are looking at the French sub that's in Halifax

 

[SouthAussie]

" Jan Giles and Adrian Sykes from Binalong, a village of 500 people in southern New South Wales [Australia], were "appalled" by the way Mr Zelensky was treated.
"I was disgusted because here's this man, coming for help and he's belittled," Ms Giles said.

As a way of showing solidarity with Ukraine and its leader, the couple decided to impose their own so-called "tariffs" on American-owned and made produce sold at their cafe.

The proceeds will be used to support aid to the Ukraine.

"With Coca-Cola products, we've put a $1 tariff on it … Jim Beam and Cola, we've put $2 on it.
"We've taken Jim Beam and Jack Daniels off the shelves, we no longer stock them because they're brewed, bottled and shipped from the United States." "

Aussie cafe imposes 'tariffs' on US over Trump's 'schoolyard bullying'

When Ukraine's president faced a fiery meeting with Donald Trump at the White House, his plight struck a chord with a couple 16,000 kilometres away in rural Australia.

www.abc.net.au

 

[SouthAussie]

For sure. ... . Australia news live: US tariffs ‘a dog act’, Labor’s Ed Husic says; Albanese hits back at Dutton, saying he should back Australia not Trump

Husic: Trump's imposition of tariffs ‘a dog act’​

Labor’s Ed Husic has been speaking to ABC TV just now about the US tariffs, and was asked if he considered it the way to treat a good friend and ally.

Husic responded:




When Australians call you a 'dog act' you can't fall any further. ... That's about as low as it gets.

I guess a good number of people may have needed "dog act" explained to them, even our NZ friends/cousins.
The Guardian did an article about it.

An Australian politician called Trump’s tariffs a ‘dog act’ – but what does it mean and how offensive is it?

Although the phrase features the word “dog”, it has nothing to do with the humble canine. Where dogs are loyal, kind and submissive (yes, I’m a proud labrador owner, what of it), a “dog act” is treacherous, cowardly and unacceptable.
That’s according to Oxford University Press, which named “dog act” its word of the month for September back in 2018.

A “dog act” questions someone’s integrity. It’s an act of betrayal.

Although the phrase is now a common insult in Australian vernacular, it doesn’t have a long history, with OUP finding the first evidence of the term being used in a Daily Telegraph article in 2003.

 

[Fabled Automatic]

Unelected by anyone except the Canadian Liberal party membership (Carney is not even a member of parliament),

Just pointing out that the process that saw Carney become PM was perfectly legitimate and above board in our system of government.

I'm not advocating for Carney and time will tell what he is made of. I just feel it's important there aren't inferences of his leadership being illegitimate (as people said of Harris in the US), because that is not the case.

 

[LovesPeace2]

The one good thing about this tariff war are the new products we Canadians are getting in to replace American produce we got Peruvian blueberry's and Aussie Bartlett pears. And prices are pretty good

 

[Vern]

Another thing about Project 2025 that I noticed yesterday when I was reading about trade between the US and Australia (re: the tariffs) .....

Project 2025: It is critical of the Federal Reserve, which it blames for the business cycle, and proposes abolishing it; it advocates instead that the dollar be backed by a commodity like gold. (Link)

Australia/US Trade: Except in January 2025, the month Trump returned to office, Australia had a surplus of US$2.2bn, sparked largely by a massive increase in the export of Australian gold to the US. Australia shipped a record amount of gold to the US in January – worth US$2.9bn – according to Australian Bureau of Statistics figures, the highest figure in records dating back to 1995.

US people losing their jobs, services being cut, and the US is buying gold in record amounts. imo

Australia’s record gold exports to US set back its case for tariff relief as Trump trade war looms

Industries across the country are bracing for the impact of the Trump administration’s worldwide tariff regime

www.theguardian.com

Gold .... isn't that what dictators flee with when dictators flee their collaping regimes?
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[Vern]

Just pointing out that the process that saw Carney become PM was perfectly legitimate and above board in our system of government.

I'm not advocating for Carney and time will tell what he is made of. I just feel it's important there aren't inferences of his leadership being illegitimate (as people said of Harris in the US), because that is not the case.

Bingo! No one in Canada has ever "voted for the Prime Minister". Never.

It's not how we do it up here.
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[SouthAussie]

Gold .... isn't that what dictators flee with when dictators flee their collaping regimes?
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Let's hope that this gold ended up in the US Treasury, and not in someone's bathroom.

imo

But it goes to show what kind of partner we are considered to be by the US. Buy our gold, tariff our other metals.

I can't even imagine what US2.9bn of gold looks like, in quantity. Back in January, gold was going for about $2,700 an ounce.
Google tells me it would be about 1,074,074 ounces of gold ... about 30,500 kg of gold.
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[Sillybilly]

Gold .... isn't that what dictators flee with when dictators flee their collaping regimes?
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I think I'd be putting another little padlock on the door to Fort Knox

 

[acutename]

I think Trump is entirely out of his mind (rabies??) to even suggest that the border with Canada should not exist. He is starting to sound like Putin.

he will be having a physical soon:

Donald Trump's Doctor Makes Announcement About ...​

Newsweek
https://www.newsweek.com › donald-trump-doctor-ma...




Mar 2, 2025 — President Donald Trump will complete his annual physical exam next month at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, according to a ...


In the "45," his dr was always saying how healthy he was. Have not seen any dr talk until this announcement about the physical.