Canada - USA Trade War commencing March 2025 #2

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Just pointing out that the process that saw Carney become PM was perfectly legitimate and above board in our system of government.

I'm not advocating for Carney and time will tell what he is made of. I just feel it's important there aren't inferences of his leadership being illegitimate (as people said of Harris in the US), because that is not the case.
There is a lot to be regarded about Carney, mostly because he is a skeptic of Right WIng ideology, and understands first hand the immense damage it can do. When Britain was in the grip of Right Wing Conservative ideology , to the extent that a lot of that poor befuddled nation lost a large percentage of it's collective marbles and voted to exit the EU, Carney was right there, batting his hardest to point out the terrible consequences that he said would follow, and guess what? those consequences are following, every day,. all day for Britain and will for decades to come. .

Carney then was instrumental in negotiating the exit , once the madness became evident, and some say he was more attuned to the EU side of things than Britain, but no one listened to Carney's warnings, so perhaps he felt no compunction to equivocate, ,,

Those ties and relationships forged by Carney to the EU will pay off for Canada , going forward, in trade, especially ,and I imagine that was a large part of his elevation to his current position in the Liberal party of Canada ( note to Australians, that's Labor in our world ) . Long term it could pay off very well.
 
That was clearly why Rubio was chosen for Secretary of State.

Trump remembers the mistake he made with Ex-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who had huge amounts of polish, a tremendous working understanding of how Putin worked, and the backbone that comes with being the CEO of a major successful international company.

His successor, Mike Pompeo, was considerably less qualified. Rubio is just a big step farther down the ladder. and will become expendable quickly when Trump, Putin, or Musk are done with him.
Trump barreled through many of his previous picks. Do you think his current choices will have better longevity than prior administration.
 
Can someone prove this is President Trump’s plan. Just because you say something 1000 times doesn’t make it so. Imo
Whether or not it's Trump's plan or not, large portions of it have already been implemented and he's okay with it. So whether it's Trump's plan or not, how do you feel about a group of people who've had this on the backburner for years and have found someone who will go along with the program. Either you like it, are alarmed by it, haven't read it, or you think it's not all doom and gloom.
 
More from the UK on Carney -

Carney is as much a citizen of nowhere as Ignatieff. He worked in high finance around the world for Goldman, a widely disliked firm. Carney was headhunted by Trudeau’s predecessor Stephen Harper as governor of Canada’s central bank, where he did not distinguish himself. Rumours even then circulated that he wanted to enter politics and to be the chief minister.

Carney was headhunted again as governor of the Bank of England. It caused controversy in both Canada and in Britain when he accepted the job, which he held through years of poor economic performance, and bad monetary policy, for which it seems he was significantly responsible.

When Carney grew tired of Britain, he swanned off to the UN in New York, working on ‘projects’, burnishing his credentials. A centrepiece of his CV has been the green stuff he has meddled in and his various campaigns for international power and influence.

Carney may criticise the economic policies of the Trudeau period – with falling per capita growth, a massive surge in migration, unjustifiable deficit spending – but Carney was one of Trudeau’s most important outside advisers. When Trudeau’s finance minister and deputy prime minister Crystia Freeland resigned last year and brought Trudeau down, it was Carney that Trudeau was openly threatening to replace her with.

It was a matter of time before Carney decided the moment was ripe to make a bid for power. He is one of the most transparently ambitious men in the English-speaking world. And now he has achieved it. Unelected by anyone except the Canadian Liberal party membership (Carney is not even a member of parliament), he has but a short time before an inevitable election to claim that he is different from the previous guy, his close friend, who ruled Canada with Carney’s sometime help and advice for almost a decade.

He isn't the first prime minister who was unelected and probably won't be the last.
 
I guess a good number of people may have needed "dog act" explained to them, even our NZ friends/cousins. :)
The Guardian did an article about it.

An Australian politician called Trump’s tariffs a ‘dog act’ – but what does it mean and how offensive is it?

Although the phrase features the word “dog”, it has nothing to do with the humble canine. Where dogs are loyal, kind and submissive (yes, I’m a proud labrador owner, what of it), a “dog act” is treacherous, cowardly and unacceptable.
That’s according to Oxford University Press, which named “dog act” its word of the month for September back in 2018.

A “dog act” questions someone’s integrity. It’s an act of betrayal.

Although the phrase is now a common insult in Australian vernacular, it doesn’t have a long history, with OUP finding the first evidence of the term being used in a Daily Telegraph article in 2003.
Oh, I thought it was something completely different. And illegal.
 
More from the UK on Carney -

Carney is as much a citizen of nowhere as Ignatieff. He worked in high finance around the world for Goldman, a widely disliked firm. Carney was headhunted by Trudeau’s predecessor Stephen Harper as governor of Canada’s central bank, where he did not distinguish himself. Rumours even then circulated that he wanted to enter politics and to be the chief minister.

Carney was headhunted again as governor of the Bank of England. It caused controversy in both Canada and in Britain when he accepted the job, which he held through years of poor economic performance, and bad monetary policy, for which it seems he was significantly responsible.

When Carney grew tired of Britain, he swanned off to the UN in New York, working on ‘projects’, burnishing his credentials. A centrepiece of his CV has been the green stuff he has meddled in and his various campaigns for international power and influence.

Carney may criticise the economic policies of the Trudeau period – with falling per capita growth, a massive surge in migration, unjustifiable deficit spending – but Carney was one of Trudeau’s most important outside advisers. When Trudeau’s finance minister and deputy prime minister Crystia Freeland resigned last year and brought Trudeau down, it was Carney that Trudeau was openly threatening to replace her with.

It was a matter of time before Carney decided the moment was ripe to make a bid for power. He is one of the most transparently ambitious men in the English-speaking world. And now he has achieved it. Unelected by anyone except the Canadian Liberal party membership (Carney is not even a member of parliament), he has but a short time before an inevitable election to claim that he is different from the previous guy, his close friend, who ruled Canada with Carney’s sometime help and advice for almost a decade.

The Spectator could hardly be called the UK .. it's read by a very narrow group of readers,. It is, for all purposes the print edition of the narrowest band of the UK Conservative party, a political party currently well and truly out of office and likely to be so for the foreseeable future, due to its utter inability to govern in any coherent manner.

Naturally , the Spectator is going to sling mud at Carney, he walked the Spectators editors around the block for their championing of Boris Johnson and Farage over Brexit, for months... Carney will forever be the enemy of the Spectator, who's editor has had to eat crow now that the realisation has dawned that Brexit was a colossal error..

(Who are the members of The Spectator?
These “members” included representatives of business, the army, the town, and the country gentry (respectively, Sir Andrew Freeport, Captain Sentry, Will Honeycomb, and Sir Roger de Coverley). An “observer” of the London scene, a fictional Mr. Spectator was credited with writing the articles.

The Spectator is a weekly British political and cultural news magazine.was first published in July 1828, making it the oldest surviving magazine in the world. The Spectator is politically conservative,

Editorship of the magazine has often been a step on the ladder to high office in the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom. Past editors include Boris Johnson (1999–2005) and other former cabinet members Ian Gilmour (1954–1959), Iain Macleod (1963–1965), and Nigel Lawson (1966–1970). The former Conservative MP Michael Gove took over from Fraser Nelson as editor on 4 October 2024.)
 
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he will be having a physical soon:

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In the "45," his dr was always saying how healthy he was. Have not seen any dr talk until this announcement about the physical.

I’ll bet they’ll release another preposterous set of numbers as evidence if his health. Omitted will be the informathat his weight has decreased because of liposuction, not diet changes. Several plastic surgeons have also commented that he appears to have had some liposuction on his neck and some scalp reduction to give the appearance if less hair loss.
 
Whether or not it's Trump's plan or not, large portions of it have already been implemented and he's okay with it. So whether it's Trump's plan or not, how do you feel about a group of people who've had this on the backburner for years and have found someone who will go along with the program. Either you like it, are alarmed by it, haven't read it, or you think it's not all doom and gloom.
It would not surprise me if parts of 2025 overlapped President Trump’s plan after all it’s 900 or so pages long with conservative viewpoints. Trump ran on Agenda 47, which was out there for all to see. I am not surprised by anything that has been implemented, it was never a big secret. imo
 
It would not surprise me if parts of 2025 overlapped President Trump’s plan after all it’s 900 or so pages long with conservative viewpoints. Trump ran on Agenda 47, which was out there for all to see. I am not surprised by anything that has been implemented, it was never a big secret. imo

I don't think anyone is "surprised" by the chaos Trump is causing. The tariffs he is implementing and country take-overs that Trump is proposing. The Project 2025 believers that he has installed in his administration.

We are just looking at that US minority that voted him in (I say minority, because it was a minority of the voting public - seeing that 90,000,000 didn't bother to vote) and wondering what on earth they were thinking. That they would keep their jobs? That tariffs wouldn't cause the US domestic prices to go up? That other countries wouldn't take measures against this?

imo
 
I don't think anyone is "surprised" by the chaos Trump is causing. The tariffs he is implementing and country take-overs that Trump is proposing. The Project 2025 believers that he has installed in his administration.

We are just looking at that US minority that voted him in (I say minority, because it was a minority of the voting public - seeing that 90,000,000 didn't bother to vote) and wondering what on earth they were thinking. That they would keep their jobs? That tariffs wouldn't cause the US domestic prices to go up? That other countries wouldn't take measures against this?

imo
I suspect those voters believed their own PR... Americans are awfully good at forgetting their failures, like Ol Ho Chi Minh, and Saddam, and the Taliban, Kosovo, Bosnia, and Black Hawk Down and all those inconvenient embarrassments.... maybe they can't believe that other nations simply flick the USA off with nary a sleepless night, because they remember in technicolour the helicopters trying to launch off the Embassy roof, ( the Ambassadors dog got a seat in the helicopter, the staff, not so lucky ) in Saigon, the jeeps and planes being shoved off the ships,.. anything to get away.. the disorderly retreat from Afghanistan, and so on, and so on...

It's all rah rah sis boom bah, until the bill is presented.......
 
oh here we go,. the first of many , .......little Marco is in a snit..

Marco Rubio says South Africa’s ambassador to US is ‘no longer welcome’​


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US secretary of state accuses Ebrahim Rasool of being a ‘race-baiting politician who hates America’ and Donald Trump



The United States is in effect expelling South Africa’s ambassador to Washington, with secretary of state Marco Rubio accusing the envoy of hating the country and President Donald Trump.

“South Africa’s ambassador to the United States is no longer welcome in our great country,” Rubio posted on X on Friday.

Rasool is a former anti-apartheid campaigner who served time in prison for his activism and went on to become a politician in the African National Congress, the party of Nelson Mandela, the country’s first post-apartheid president.

South Africa was ruled by white Afrikaner leaders during apartheid, which violently repressed the country’s black majority, including forcing them to live in segregated townships and rural “homelands”. Afrikaners are descended mainly from the Dutch, who began colonising South Africa in 1652, as well as French Huguenot refugees sponsored by the Dutch.
 
he will be having a physical soon:

Donald Trump's Doctor Makes Announcement About ...

View attachment 571144
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https://www.newsweek.com › donald-trump-doctor-ma...
Mar 2, 2025 — President Donald Trump will complete his annual physical exam next month at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, according to a ...
In the "45," his dr was always saying how healthy he was. Have not seen any dr talk until this announcement about the physical.
"If I only had a brain. . . " la la la.
 
oh here we go,. the first of many , .......little Marco is in a snit..

Marco Rubio says South Africa’s ambassador to US is ‘no longer welcome’​


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US secretary of state accuses Ebrahim Rasool of being a ‘race-baiting politician who hates America’ and Donald Trump



The United States is in effect expelling South Africa’s ambassador to Washington, with secretary of state Marco Rubio accusing the envoy of hating the country and President Donald Trump.

“South Africa’s ambassador to the United States is no longer welcome in our great country,” Rubio posted on X on Friday.

Rasool is a former anti-apartheid campaigner who served time in prison for his activism and went on to become a politician in the African National Congress, the party of Nelson Mandela, the country’s first post-apartheid president.

South Africa was ruled by white Afrikaner leaders during apartheid, which violently repressed the country’s black majority, including forcing them to live in segregated townships and rural “homelands”. Afrikaners are descended mainly from the Dutch, who began colonising South Africa in 1652, as well as French Huguenot refugees sponsored by the Dutch.

Not to worry (not that anyone is worried about Rubio's little hissy fit) ..... EU announces a $5 billion investment in South Africa as the tariffs war with Trump escalates

"European Union leaders announced 4.7 billion euros ($5.1 billion) in investments in South Africa on Thursday to support green energy and vaccine production, and agreed to start talks on new trade deals with Africa’s most advanced economy.
Their message stood in contrast to the Trump administration’s confrontational foreign policy and trade tariffs."



Trump is also going to implement travel restrictions/bans against 41 countries. Africa is expected to be on the list.

 
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Not to worry (not that anyone is worried about Rubio's little hissy fit) ..... EU announces a $5 billion investment in South Africa as the tariffs war with Trump escalates

"European Union leaders announced 4.7 billion euros ($5.1 billion) in investments in South Africa on Thursday to support green energy and vaccine production, and agreed to start talks on new trade deals with Africa’s most advanced economy.
Their message stood in contrast to the Trump administration’s confrontational foreign policy and trade tariffs."



Trump is also going to implement travel restrictions/bans against 41 countries. Africa is expected to be on the list.

We might be lucky enough to be on that list, SouthA... .. what a privilege !! what an honor!!
 
US Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Friday said that South Africa’s ambassador to the United States “is no longer welcome in our great country.”

“Ebrahim Rasool is a race-baiting politician who hates America and hates” President Donald Trump, Rubio alleged in a post on X.

“We have nothing to discuss with him and so he is considered PERSONA NON GRATA,” Rubio wrote. Declaring someone persona non grata (PNG) is a severe diplomatic rebuke and usually forces them to leave the host country.

[...]

In the comments that seem to have triggered Rubio’s PNG declaration, Rasool was discussing the “continuities” from the Biden administration as well as the “discontinuities.”

“What Donald Trump is launching is an assault on incumbency, those who are in power, by mobilizing a supremacism against the incumbency at home and … abroad as well,” said Rasool, who was on his second tour as ambassador to the US. He presented his credentials in mid-January to then President Joe Biden and previously served in Washington, DC, under the Obama administration.

He said that the Make America Great Again movement was a response “not simply to a supremacist instinct,” but to shifts in US demographics “in which the voting electorate in the USA is projected to become 48% white and that the possibility of a majority of minorities is looming on the horizon.”

“So that needs to be factored in, so that we understand some of the things that we think are instinctive, nativist, racist things, I think that there’s data that, for example, would support that, that would go to this wall being built, the deportation movement, etc. etc.,” he said as part of his nearly 20-minute-long remarks to the Mapungubwe Institute for Strategic Reflection (MISTRA).

Rasool said “it’s no accident” that Musk has involved himself in far-right British politics and that Vice President JD Vance met with the leader of a far-right German political party before the elections there.

“That then begins to say what was the role then of Afrikaners in that whole project,” he continued. “Very clearly it’s to project white victimhood as a dog whistle.”

[...]

 

Canada reconsidering F-35 purchase amid tensions with Washington, says minister​

Payment for first 16 aircraft already made​


Probably like AU, Canada will have to kiss that pre payment good bye and look upon it as a learning experience , never to be repeated.. The USA has ripped AU off to the merry tune of 500 BILLION dollars for submarines that will never ever be built, not in this century .. not when the USA is paying a tariff on components from elsewhere... its like Boeing planes, now cost 40 billion dollars more than yesterday , because of tariffs... every airline has cancelled its orders.... if it wasn't so sad , you could laugh all day, sad for the follks in Crystal City '

Walk away from the aircraft, take a look at what Malaysia is producing. Very good and honest industrial contractors......
 
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