Canada - USA Trade War commencing March 2025 #2

[SouthAussie]

"The looming threat of US tariffs on Australian beef could drive up the price of McDonald's in America, Trade Minister Don Farrell has warned.

"The significance, of course, to the US about our beef exports is that most of it goes into McDonald's hamburgers," Farrell said today.
"If you push up the price of those beef exports by 25 per cent or 10 per cent or whatever the figure is, then you push up the price of hamburgers."

"It doesn't make any sense," he added.

Under the current rules, Australian exporters can export 448,214 tonnes of beef to the US at a zero tariff rate."

Tariffs on Aussie beef would drive up price of McDonald's in USA

www.9news.com.au

 

[musicaljoke]

Ruh oh ...

No egg surplus' in Europe to share




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Oh my! Three eggs! At first I thought the sign said three flats.

 

[LoveyG]

"The looming threat of US tariffs on Australian beef could drive up the price of McDonald's in America, Trade Minister Don Farrell has warned.

"The significance, of course, to the US about our beef exports is that most of it goes into McDonald's hamburgers," Farrell said today.
"If you push up the price of those beef exports by 25 per cent or 10 per cent or whatever the figure is, then you push up the price of hamburgers."

"It doesn't make any sense," he added.

Under the current rules, Australian exporters can export 448,214 tonnes of beef to the US at a zero tariff rate."

Tariffs on Aussie beef would drive up price of McDonald's in USA

www.9news.com.au

Raising the price of McDonald's burgers will get the public riled up. Good!

 

[SouthAussie]

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"Ongoing egg shortages and rising prices recently prompted 24-hour breakfast chain Waffle House to add a 50 cent surcharge per egg ..... "

Egg prices shot up 15% in January as retailers limit customer purchases

The bird flu is still wiping out poultry flocks, leading to supply shortages. Here's when egg prices could come down, experts say.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Herat]

Oh my! Three eggs! At first I thought the sign said three flats.

I think it means 3 cartons.

Look how ridiculous it would be to open one of the cartons, then remove 3 eggs. How are you going to keep them safe in your Costco-size shopping car?

How are the boxers going to package them safely along with your gallon jugs of mayonnaise, handles of vodka, cans of corn and other bulk items?

 

[Trooper]

Portugal Drops Plans for F-35 Citing U.S. Political Uncertainty

The recent shift in U.S. policy toward NATO has led the Portuguese Defense Minister to deem a potential F-35 procurement unlikely. In an interview with

theaviationist.com

Another independent nation has decided to cut itself loose from American industry, as quickly and as smoothly as it can, Canada , take note... Those F-35's are going to be the avionic Dodo's of the sky before long...

Portugal Drops Plans for F-35 Citing U.S. Political Uncertainty​

The recent shift in U.S. policy toward NATO has led the Portuguese Defense Minister to deem a potential F-35 procurement unlikely.​

In an interview with Portuguese media outlet Público published on Mar. 13, 2025, Portuguese Defense Minister Nuno Melo dismissed the possibility of ordering the fifth-generation fighter, aligning with other European nations reconsidering their defense procurement strategies..

The Minister, pointed directly at the uncertainty surrounding the Trump administration as a key factor in the decision.

( as the Portugese would say, ' "Toma e vá embora" )

 

[acutename]

I think it means 3 cartons.

Look how ridiculous it would be to open one of the cartons, then remove 3 eggs. How are you going to keep them safe in your Costco-size shopping car?

How are the boxers going to package them safely along with your gallon jugs of mayonnaise, handles of vodka, cans of corn and other bulk items?

yes- 3 cartons.... which are each > 12 , so 3x 24 or 3x 18? Not that much of a limit though some of the people who shop at Costco have small restaurants or food trucks.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Raising the price of McDonald's burgers will get the public riled up. Good!

It might even get DJT riled up!

 

[otto]

Portugal Drops Plans for F-35 Citing U.S. Political Uncertainty

The recent shift in U.S. policy toward NATO has led the Portuguese Defense Minister to deem a potential F-35 procurement unlikely. In an interview with

theaviationist.com

Another independent nation has decided to cut itself loose from American industry, as quickly and as smoothly as it can, Canada , take note... Those F-35's are going to be the avionic Dodo's of the sky before long...

Portugal Drops Plans for F-35 Citing U.S. Political Uncertainty​

The recent shift in U.S. policy toward NATO has led the Portuguese Defense Minister to deem a potential F-35 procurement unlikely.​

In an interview with Portuguese media outlet Público published on Mar. 13, 2025, Portuguese Defense Minister Nuno Melo dismissed the possibility of ordering the fifth-generation fighter, aligning with other European nations reconsidering their defense procurement strategies..

The Minister, pointed directly at the uncertainty surrounding the Trump administration as a key factor in the decision.

( as the Portugese would say, ' "Toma e vá embora" )

This will get the attention of the USA government. They're sitting back feeling good about themselves, confident they will reduce their debt by tariffing/taxing other countries. Meanwhile, everyone is looking at the USA as an unreliable, untrustworthy country.

Once trust and reliability are gone, it takes a very long time to regain. A change in government won't make any difference, because everyone now knows that all it takes is one government change for treaties and signed agreements to be torn up by the USA.

Sales/purchase of military equipment has to shift to other NATO countries that can be trusted regardless of changing governments.

I don't think the USA government saw this coming. All they see are $$$s. They are busy believing themselves to be superior. They haven't noticed that they are despised everywhere as a country with no honour, no loyalty, and a potty-mouth president who goes mental when foreign leaders present a different viewpoint.

 

[Charlot123]

I think it means 3 cartons.

Look how ridiculous it would be to open one of the cartons, then remove 3 eggs. How are you going to keep them safe in your Costco-size shopping car?

How are the boxers going to package them safely along with your gallon jugs of mayonnaise, handles of vodka, cans of corn and other bulk items?

Lifehack for the difficult times ahead. When standing in line, if something is sold as “only one per customer”, pregnant women can claim two. Should work.

 

[Trooper]

This will get the attention of the USA government. They're sitting back feeling good about themselves, confident they will reduce their debt by tariffing/taxing other countries. Meanwhile, everyone is looking at the USA as an unreliable, untrustworthy country.

Once trust and reliability are gone, it takes a very long time to regain. A change in government won't make any difference, because everyone now knows that all it takes is one government change for treaties and signed agreements to be torn up by the USA.

Sales/purchase of military equipment has to shift to other NATO countries that can be trusted regardless of changing governments.

I don't think the USA government saw this coming. All they see are $$$s. They are busy believing themselves to be superior. They haven't noticed that they are despised everywhere as a country with no honour, no loyalty, and a potty-mouth president who goes mental when foreign leaders present a different viewpoint.

I think this bit is the one thing that totally baffles most nations at this point in time... 'I don't think the USA government saw this coming.' Never a truer statement.. the baffling bit is why... History tells us that this is exactly the process that results, and that that particular process consolidates itself and grows exponentially, like domino's falling, one trading partner after another backing off and away and forming other , more lucrative partnerships. And it takes generations to even begin renegotiation, because by that time, countries are comfy with the new trading partners.....

An historic example. When Britain chose to actually JOIN the EU, the Common Market, it ended it's preferential trading with Commonwealth nations, like Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica, South Africa, India, et al, 70 countries worth, and they all had to scramble to forge new partnerships , some with each other, some new contracts with Europe, some with China, Japan, Malaysia, Indonesia, USA, and so on..

Then, Britain, decades later leaves the union and wants those preferred contracts back , and all of these countries have said, 'getouttahere with your nonsense' and have made rather harshish deals with Britain that make things awkward yet entirely deserved... This the future for the USA , re trade and the USA is a trading nation . It exists for trade.

I , personally ,will never understand the mass insanity of Trump's program ... even in the USA 's own history there is recorded failure of the exact same nuttiness, written in stone for everyone to know.

 

[Mo Thuairim]

Trump's quest to conquer Canada is confusing everyone​

Canadians and Republicans alike are confounded as President Donald Trump increasingly links a trade war to his push to annex America's northern neighbor.

[...]

The president has also mentioned renegotiating agreements that dictate how the Great Lakes and Columbia River are governed, the official told NBC News, adding that Trump wants to control the Northwest Passage, a maritime path that begins west of Greenland and cuts through Northern Canada to the Arctic Ocean.

"He wants our water," the Canadian official added. "He wants to take the water."

Marc Miller, the Canadian minister of immigration, refugees and citizenship, said that for Trump, Canada’s allure is its natural resources. The president separately wants American access to Ukraine’s rare earth minerals as compensation for the aid given to the war-torn country.

[...]

Trump's quest to conquer Canada is confusing everyone

Canadians and Republicans alike are confounded as President Donald Trump increasingly links a trade war to his push to annex America's northern neighbor.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Vern]

Portugal Drops Plans for F-35 Citing U.S. Political Uncertainty

The recent shift in U.S. policy toward NATO has led the Portuguese Defense Minister to deem a potential F-35 procurement unlikely. In an interview with

theaviationist.com

Another independent nation has decided to cut itself loose from American industry, as quickly and as smoothly as it can, Canada , take note... Those F-35's are going to be the avionic Dodo's of the sky before long...

Portugal Drops Plans for F-35 Citing U.S. Political Uncertainty​

...​

RSBM,

Noted.

Sometimes, our politicians are just behind the times as to what's up ... or waiting to make public statements because *reasons*.

European jets, French subs, etc etc.

Currently enjoying a port visit in Halifax, Nova Scotia with the Tourville, a French Barracuda Class Nuclear Attack Submarine. By the below pic, she's actually jettied in Dartmouth vice Halifax proper.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1900936234253398136

 

[Vern]

I think this bit is the one thing that totally baffles most nations at this point in time... 'I don't think the USA government saw this coming.' Never a truer statement.. the baffling bit is why... History tells us that this is exactly the process that results, and that that particular process consolidates itself and grows exponentially, like domino's falling, one trading partner after another backing off and away and forming other , more lucrative partnerships. And it takes generations to even begin renegotiation, because by that time, countries are comfy with the new trading partners.....
...

RSBM

He's taking a page out of McKinley's playbook. He does seem quite obsessed with him. Only Trump is ignoring the Lessons Learned: President McKinley’s Tariff Mishap Could Be a Warning Sign for Trump’s Trade War

Suffice to say, the working class suffered, but the robber barons got richer then too.

Here's a 2008 article that carries articles from the time period, which bear an eerie echo to todays' tariff and annexation of Canada mantra. Embedded articles from 1888 & 1890 (NYT & Harper's Weekly). No lessons learned, rather just more of the same this go 'round.

Tax History Lesson: The McKinley Tariff

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[LoveyG]

Portugal Drops Plans for F-35 Citing U.S. Political Uncertainty

The recent shift in U.S. policy toward NATO has led the Portuguese Defense Minister to deem a potential F-35 procurement unlikely. In an interview with

theaviationist.com

Another independent nation has decided to cut itself loose from American industry, as quickly and as smoothly as it can, Canada , take note... Those F-35's are going to be the avionic Dodo's of the sky before long...

Portugal Drops Plans for F-35 Citing U.S. Political Uncertainty​

The recent shift in U.S. policy toward NATO has led the Portuguese Defense Minister to deem a potential F-35 procurement unlikely.​

In an interview with Portuguese media outlet Público published on Mar. 13, 2025, Portuguese Defense Minister Nuno Melo dismissed the possibility of ordering the fifth-generation fighter, aligning with other European nations reconsidering their defense procurement strategies..

The Minister, pointed directly at the uncertainty surrounding the Trump administration as a key factor in the decision.

( as the Portugese would say, ' "Toma e vá embora" )

When does Lockheed Martin start making noise? Surely Congress will notice?

 

[otto]

Trump's quest to conquer Canada is confusing everyone​

Canadians and Republicans alike are confounded as President Donald Trump increasingly links a trade war to his push to annex America's northern neighbor.

[...]

The president has also mentioned renegotiating agreements that dictate how the Great Lakes and Columbia River are governed, the official told NBC News, adding that Trump wants to control the Northwest Passage, a maritime path that begins west of Greenland and cuts through Northern Canada to the Arctic Ocean.

"He wants our water," the Canadian official added. "He wants to take the water."

Marc Miller, the Canadian minister of immigration, refugees and citizenship, said that for Trump, Canada’s allure is its natural resources. The president separately wants American access to Ukraine’s rare earth minerals as compensation for the aid given to the war-torn country.

[...]

Trump's quest to conquer Canada is confusing everyone

Canadians and Republicans alike are confounded as President Donald Trump increasingly links a trade war to his push to annex America's northern neighbor.

www.nbcnews.com

We could see it coming. The USA wants Panama, Greenland and Canada. What do they have in common? Shipping lanes. Greenland and Canada are future shipping lanes. In a recent interview with Trump and Mark Rutte (secretary general of NATO) Trump declared that he has 48 ice breakers and that Canada wants them. He repeats several times that Canada can't have them, they have to pay for them, but Canada allegedly wants ice breakers.

I don't think Canada wants ice breakers in the Arctic. I think the USA government plan is to steal the land and associated waters, and use ice-breakers to carve out a shipping lane today. The USA government wants to destroy Canada's Arctic ice. I researched the attached images in mid-January. That's when the USA government plan was obvious, although not yet formerly announced or recognized in the news.

The country that is missing in the agreement to establish the longest maritime boundary in the world is the USA. That clearly makes the USA really angry, so angry that they want to take Canada by force. The USA wants to rob Canadians and Indigenous Peoples of their land, water and natural resources. It's that simple. That's how the USA government plans to get rich.

"The waters of Canada’s Arctic archipelago, including the various channels comprising the Northwest Passage, are internal waters of Canada by virtue of historic title and in accordance with international law. Canada’s Arctic sovereignty encompasses land, sea and ice.​

...​

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Canada, the Kingdom of Denmark, and Greenland have resolved the maritime boundary and long-time dispute over Tartupaluk. In June 2022, following 5 years of intensive negotiations, the Canadian, Nunavut, Danish and Greenlandic governments agreed on a modernized single maritime boundary, from the Lincoln Sea in the north to the Labrador Sea in the south—a distance of over 3,000 kilometres—which established the longest bilateral maritime boundary in the world. The agreement also resolved the overlap in our respective continental shelves in the Labrador Sea."​

Canada’s Arctic Foreign Policy

www.international.gc.ca

 

[ekc]

We could see it coming. The USA wants Panama, Greenland and Canada. What do they have in common? Shipping lanes. Greenland and Canada are future shipping lanes. In a recent interview with Trump and Mark Rutte (secretary general of NATO) Trump declared that he has 48 ice breakers and that Canada wants them. He repeats several times that Canada can't have them, they have to pay for them, but Canada allegedly wants ice breakers.

I don't think Canada wants ice breakers in the Arctic. I think the USA government plan is to steal the land and associated waters, and use ice-breakers carve out a shipping lane today. The USA government wants to destroy Canada's Arctic ice. I researched the attached images in mid-January. That's when the USA government plan was obvious, although not yet formerly announced or recognized in the news.

The country that is missing in the agreement to establish the longest maritime boundary in the world is the USA. That clearly makes the USA really angry, so angry that they want to take Canada by force. The USA wants to rob Canadians and Indigenous Peoples of their land, water and natural resources. It's that simple. That's how the USA government plans to get rich.

"The waters of Canada’s Arctic archipelago, including the various channels comprising the Northwest Passage, are internal waters of Canada by virtue of historic title and in accordance with international law. Canada’s Arctic sovereignty encompasses land, sea and ice.​

...​

​

Canada, the Kingdom of Denmark, and Greenland have resolved the maritime boundary and long-time dispute over Tartupaluk. In June 2022, following 5 years of intensive negotiations, the Canadian, Nunavut, Danish and Greenlandic governments agreed on a modernized single maritime boundary, from the Lincoln Sea in the north to the Labrador Sea in the south—a distance of over 3,000 kilometres—which established the longest bilateral maritime boundary in the world. The agreement also resolved the overlap in our respective continental shelves in the Labrador Sea."​

Canada’s Arctic Foreign Policy

www.international.gc.ca

well darn while your at it why not take Mexico....heck in for a penny,in for a pound...this movie is not academy award....just a thought

 

[otto]

well darn while your at it why not take Mexico....heck in for a penny, in for a pound...this movie is not academy award....just a thought

From the USA government perspective, Mexico is full of pet-eating criminals and murderers. The USA doesn't need or want Mexico, and doesn't want people from Mexico in the USA. It's not easy to write that, but it is the position that the USA government has taken. It looks like the USA views Mexico, and all places South, as the ideal location for brutal prisons. That is where the USA is transporting their undesirables - without trial. People are rounded up, put on planes, and sent to South American prisons.

 

[Lyanna]

From the USA government perspective, Mexico is full of pet-eating criminals and murderers. The USA doesn't need or want Mexico, and doesn't want people from Mexico in the USA. It's not easy to write that, but it is the position that the USA government has taken. It looks like the USA views Mexico, and all places South, as the ideal location for brutal prisons. That is where the USA is transporting their undesirables - without trial. People are rounded up, put on planes, and sent to South American prisons.

I wouldn't like to live in America right about now.
Appears everyone's human rights are being eroded unless you're exceptionally wealthy. No freedom of speech, press being regulated, economic spiralling.
It's just madness. And people are letting it happen.

Moo

 

[otto]

This is the message to Canadians - the USA is mercurial, unreliable, untrustworthy and uncoordinated, therefore new trade partners must be sought based on existing trade agreements with other countries.

"The damage done by Donald Trump's chaotic tariff war has Ontario businesses looking for new trading partners and allies ... U.S. president's scatter-shot approach has been to undermine decades of trust built between the two countries.
...

The uncertainty has meant businesses across the province are now planning with an eye to Trump's mercurial behaviour ... "The White House has shown itself to be unreliable, untrustworthy and uncoordinated"
...

"You're already seeing Canadian businesses look for new partners in Europe, in Asia and Latin America, where we have trade agreements and we have countries that actually value the alliances with us,"
...

"I think we've all come to the understanding that even if we do work out a trade agreement, the trust is gone," Payne said. "Canada has to do things differently. It's a giant wake up call."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/business-concerns-us-trade-1.7483636