Canada - USA Trade War commencing March 2025 #2

[Herat]

I love this idea and before Trump the norm was for the president leaving the White House was to have a peaceful transfer of power and allow the new administration to lead. The outgoing president kept his mouth shut for the most part.

To invite people to violence or death threats and verbal attacks and lying was not done. The expectation was for Congress to show solidarity and rein in unconstitutional behaviors and illegal actions but with a Republican majority they chose to allow this to happen.

Free speech IMO is not hate speech. He is going after retribution for those who disagree and he swore NOT to do that .

The 25th amendment should be invoked but even if they did that I doubt little would change. They are drunk on power and want to make America white again and women subservient.

A woman died in Texas from bleeding out from a miscarriage. She was denied a dnc which could have saved her life. Why? The doctors were scared it would be an abortion and they would be prosecuted under the Texas law.

I'll provide a link if someone wants to read the horror of it.

I'm with you @otto

The medical ignorance in routine women's reproductive care is medieval in it's incompetence in these states whose legistlatures control women's private medical care.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Amazing that the US voted themselves out of democracy and into Balkan-type dictatorship so easily.

Snipped for focus.

Again, only about 34% of Americans voted for this. #notallAmericans

 

[Fabled Automatic]

Snipped for focus.

Again, only about 34% of Americans voted for this. #notallAmericans

About 64% of Americans voted. Every vote that wasn't cast was also a vote for this idiocy.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

About 64% of Americans voted. Every vote that wasn't cast was also a vote for this idiocy.

Well I guess that's true, in a manner of speaking.

 

[ekc]

[td] Insiders say Pierre Poilievre called Doug Ford for help — and the premier turned him down

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Canada doesn.t seem to be that broken now ...phew

 

[nhmemorymaker]

National health care would go a long way towards treating illegal and prescription drug addiction. Treat the patient, solve the problem.

Everyone knows that when you take one drug away from an addict, they will replace it with another drug. Stopping drugs at the border will not make any difference to drug addicts.

Trump discussions about fentanyl were a ruse to get people worked up into starting a war.

It just means that dealers will be cutting the fentenyl with very dangerous substitutions. Been going on for quite a while.........

 

[Herat]

It just means that dealers will be cutting the fentenyl with very dangerous substitutions. Been going on for quite a while.........

The prescription drug problem started in 2000, when one of the major arbiters of healthcare, the Joint Commission on Healthcare Organizations deemed that "pain" was one of the unacknowledged vital signs that need to be accounted for, just like heart rate, temperature, blood pressure, and they mandated that everyone report pain status with every vital sign report taken.

This is a quote from that organization at that time: "Excuses for inadequate pain control appear to have run their course and will no longer be accepted because poor pain control is unethical, clinically unsound, and economically wasteful."

So all hospitals and clinics and physcian offices were continuously asking about pain and looking for ways to get patients out of pain, even in situations where some degree of pain was a normal part of events, like post-surgical care. The goal was to make everyone pain-free. Noble, surely, but not entirely rational.

So everyone was given pain meds. It was a huge black mark on your record, and a threat to your livelihood if you did not provide serious pain meds to people. not just aspirin, or NSAIDS, or tylenol. So practitioners turned to opiates, as they clearly took care of pain. Physicians told me that having pain was unacceptable and black mark against their care, so they felt forced to put people on opiates for every pain complaint. Oddly enough, stronger opiates than codeine were soon released by pharmaceutical manufacturers like Pfizer, and every doctor's office welcomed in the Oxycodone reps because they were pushing such strong stuff to be liberally used and re-filled.

These same physicians now tell me they feel that they were forced to be giving such highly -addictive substances by JCHO and other healthcare oversight organizations, without proper caution. One of my surgeons told me she felt intense pressure from regulators to be pushing opiate meds and she had turned people into addicts without understanding how addictive these newer opiate drugs really were.

When she would cut off their prescription, the innocently addicted patients were forced to find new, often illegal, sources for their optiates to avoid going into withdrawl. They were fully functional in the community as teachers, administrators, contractors, etc but still totally addicted and without supervision once released from the physician's practice after their surgical or medical issues had been completed.

 

[Herat]

It just means that dealers will be cutting the fentenyl with very dangerous substitutions. Been going on for quite a while.........

Where once opiates were being cut with fentanyl, now its xylazine or "tranq" being cut with fentanyl.

Opiates can at least be reversed by anti-opiate blockers like Naloxone.

Xylazine is not an opiate and anti-opiate blockers like Naloxone do not reverse their action. They are contributing to more and more fatalities.

 

[LoveyG]

Did we already talk about this bill?

H.R.1936 - To prohibit funds for the Armed Forces to engage in operations to invade or seize territory from Canada, the Republic of Panama, or the self-governing territory of Greenland.​

H.R.1936 — 119th Congress (2025-2026)​

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1936/all-actions?overview=closed#tabs

ETA: on topic because Trump appears to be trying to use Tariffs to force Canada to become part of the US. Unfortunately for him, Canada is stronger than he thought.

 

[otto]

I love this idea and before Trump the norm was for the president leaving the White House was to have a peaceful transfer of power and allow the new administration to lead. The outgoing president kept his mouth shut for the most part.

To invite people to violence or death threats and verbal attacks and lying was not done. The expectation was for Congress to show solidarity and rein in unconstitutional behaviors and illegal actions but with a Republican majority they chose to allow this to happen.

Free speech IMO is not hate speech. He is going after retribution for those who disagree and he swore NOT to do that .

The 25th amendment should be invoked but even if they did that I doubt little would change. They are drunk on power and want to make America white again and women subservient.

A woman died in Texas from bleeding out from a miscarriage. She was denied a dnc which could have saved her life. Why? The doctors were scared it would be an abortion and they would be prosecuted under the Texas law.

I'll provide a link if someone wants to read the horror of it.

I'm with you @otto

The 1990 film of The Handmaid's Tale seems more likely today than it did in 1990. I wonder what inspired Margaret Atwood to write the book. The film is available free on youtube. It sounds a little 'out-there' to think that future is possible, but what we're seeing in the USA today is also a little 'out-there'.

 

[LoveyG]

Did we already talk about this bill?

H.R.1936 - To prohibit funds for the Armed Forces to engage in operations to invade or seize territory from Canada, the Republic of Panama, or the self-governing territory of Greenland.​

H.R.1936 — 119th Congress (2025-2026)​

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1936/all-actions?overview=closed#tabs

Sponsors of the bill:

HR1936 | US Congress 2025-2026 | No Invading Allies Act | TrackBill

US Congress HR1936 2025-2026 No Invading Allies Act

trackbill.com

 

[Herat]

Sponsors of the bill:

HR1936 | US Congress 2025-2026 | No Invading Allies Act | TrackBill

US Congress HR1936 2025-2026 No Invading Allies Act

trackbill.com

Looks to me as thought House Speaker Mike Johnson will carefully assure it dies in Committee and never ever makes it to the House floor for debate or vote.

As per instructions of his boss.

However, it certainly bears watching and media attention being made of exactly who says what and how it happens, for the world to hear. As the threats become louder or more irrational, it is critically important to show a trail of elected officials who have continuously opposed the blatant mis-use of the office of President for unwarranted militiary aggression.

As the President cannot formally declare War, but has to have the House of Representatives vote for it, it bears persisting in bringing the potential for Trump-led military aggression to be openly monitored. There are also some work-arounds where the House has given permission for military aggression to the President:

"After World War II, however, AUMF's ( Athorizations for the Use of Military Force) became much broader, often granting Presidents sweeping authority to engage America’s military around the world."

Power to Declare War | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

“The Congress shall have Power To . . . provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States.”—U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 8, clause 1“The Congress shall have Power . . . To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land...

history.house.gov

 

[nhmemorymaker]

ye gods, not Soros again ,.. the RW has been moaning about Soros since the Lord was in the cadets, can't they get a new topic? rinse , repeat, rinse , repeat.. Soros didn't give them any money, and that defines enemy for the MAGA cult, that's all it exists for, money, nothing else. they'd sell their grandmothers.

'The Open Society Foundations support a broad range of nonprofit organizations that work to strengthen democracy and promote nonviolent civic engagement.'..... because this position results in profit for all , whereas violence and a weak democracy IDI AMIN"S one's own democracy... as will be seen first hand , I suspect, possibly this northern summer..

I know, i know......... every conservative relative i have throws Soros name in the air, when they need a Democrat rich guy to blame. Isn't he dead by now?

 

[LovesPeace2]

I really wonder how all the bad publicity is getting to trump. I mean he's really not winning at anything honestly. His tariff war isn't working so well a lot of our stores no longer stock American products. We are finding other buyers for our products so that's not going to work well for them because we won't have those products to sell them. We just got a deal with Aussies that's got to sting them. The EU UK Aussies are all working together with out the USA. Canadians are biting back about the 51st state so is Greenland and Panama. He can't be that delulu he isn't seeing what he's making the USA look like .

 

[otto]

This is an interesting article about Musk, and explains the origins of much of his extremism. It frames who he is and his intentions.

https://www.cbc.ca/newsinteractives/features/joshua-haldeman-elon-musk-saskatchewan-tech-utopian-conspiracist

 

[Sillybilly]

Sorry if already posted:

U.S. could block Canadian attempts to buy new fighter jets to replace F-35s, warn analysts​

Defence analysts say the Americans could derail attempts to buy alternatives, as all of the jets contain U.S.-built equipment.

 

[LoveyG]

I really wonder how all the bad publicity is getting to trump. I mean he's really not winning at anything honestly. His tariff war isn't working so well a lot of our stores no longer stock American products. We are finding other buyers for our products so that's not going to work well for them because we won't have those products to sell them. We just got a deal with Aussies that's got to sting them. The EU UK Aussies are all working together with out the USA. Canadians are biting back about the 51st state so is Greenland and Panama. He can't be that delulu he isn't seeing what he's making the USA look like .

MOO: I don't think he can see himself as being wrong. It's everyone else. The polls are wrong. The protesters are paid by Soros and bussed in from blue states. It's the Fake News.

I think he'll just become more aggressive and illogical as his plans backfire, one after another. There will not be a time when he will look for a better way to do things because that will be him admitting he was wrong. I predict some sort of implosion, or self destruction, or catastrophe that gets him out of the way will be the only way he will change course. Unless Congress finally gets their fingers out and does something. That will require his own party stepping up, too, though.

 

[Herat]

MOO: I don't think he can see himself as being wrong. It's everyone else. The polls are wrong. The protesters are paid by Soros and bussed in from blue states. It's the Fake News.

I think he'll just become more aggressive and illogical as his plans backfire, one after another. There will not be a time when he will look for a better way to do things because that will be him admitting he was wrong. I predict some sort of implosion, or self destruction, or catastrophe that gets him out of the way will be the only way he will change course. Unless Congress finally gets their fingers out and does something. That will require his own party stepping up, too, though.

He's thoroughly distrustful of his Vice President, so he will never back down out of the office. If anything, he would try to appoint one of his children to the job, with Elon at their side.

Like a true dictator, he does not trust anyone below him at all. He learned his lesson with former VP Mike Pence. He learned that there may be a line the VP will not cross in their loyalty, so they can never be trusted.

 

[keek]

MOO: I don't think he can see himself as being wrong. It's everyone else. The polls are wrong. The protesters are paid by Soros and bussed in from blue states. It's the Fake News.

I think he'll just become more aggressive and illogical as his plans backfire, one after another. There will not be a time when he will look for a better way to do things because that will be him admitting he was wrong. I predict some sort of implosion, or self destruction, or catastrophe that gets him out of the way will be the only way he will change course. Unless Congress finally gets their fingers out and does something. That will require his own party stepping up, too, though.

I feel I can only see this too. The implosion, which I hoped for the day he got in and talked about who he wanted for his 'cabinet' time. M hanging around them all. Not a one with integrity, bound to be something big.

 

[keek]

I have a difficult time feeling bad for these people- he showed who he was--although he denied knowing anything about project 2025-- I have no idea how anybody could have believed anything he promised--- these people put him in office and those of us who knew better are stuck with this horrible mess---

I am sure MOST of the supporters did NOT even KNOW what project 25 was or CARE. The others, 'won't affect MEEE', I'm all set' mentality, I'm like t, all business and all about the money. Two different types but both despicable.