Canada - USA Trade War commencing March 2025 #3

[Herat]

The natural consequence of 25% tariffs on the car industry (most NA and foreign vehicles are assembled in Canada, Mexico and the USA), means that car sales will drop. Many people will postpone buying a new vehicle until tariffs are removed, or reduced to somewhere in the region of 5%. That means that automotive employees have no work, so they are laid off and rely on (un)employment insurance.

None of this means that the automotive industry will move manufacturing to the USA. Over 10 years, perhaps, but with no car buyers, who will invest in USA automotive manufacturing?

If the USA gov't wants vehicles built exclusively in the USA, training engineers and building manufacturing plants is the first step. When that is in place, then tariffs can be placed on foreign built cars. Trump starts with the end goal and expects the foundational steps to magically appear.

On the bright side- this is probably a great time for Canadians to be getting great deals on Candadian-made cars or trucks by Toyota, Honda and other Japanese brands.

I'd think that US-owned brands like GM, Ford, Jeep, Dodge, and Cadillace may not be selling well, tariff or not.

 

[Lyanna]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/livestory/canada-election-carney-says-nothing-is-off-the-table-to-fight-trumps-tariffs-9.6700629

 

[SouthAussie]

I wonder what that orange umpaloompa would do if one day the media and other countries ignored his rants and messy drama. I think that would get to him more then people's angry reaction.

After @detective.moon mentioned Hollywood earlier, I was reading about Hollywood's approach to the dramas.

Apparently, many there are refusing to say Trump's name. They will speak of what is happening, but not say his name. Because they tried so hard to bring the public consciousness up into what would happen if Trump was elected - but all of their trying did not work. So now they are giving Trump the "He Who Must Not Be Named" treatment.


“I will say though, Beyoncé, there’s tariffs. We can’t afford a new tour. Maple syrup is about to be $50” - Trevor Noah
“The main thing is I have so much compassion and love for so many people that are afraid today" - Lady Gaga
“The shocking part is not that he won. It’s that a convicted criminal who spews so much hate could hold the highest office” - Eva Longoria
“He’s the president. I’m still not going to say his name. That’s not going to change” - Whoopi Goldberg

Celebrities rail against Trump’s policies — but hesitate to say his name

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

After @detective.moon mentioned Hollywood earlier, I was reading about Hollywood's approach to the dramas.

Apparently, many there are refusing to say Trump's name. They will speak of what is happening, but not say his name. Because they tried so hard to bring the public consciousness up into what would happen if Trump was elected - but all of their trying did not work. So now they are giving Trump the "He Who Must Not Be Named" treatment.


“I will say though, Beyoncé, there’s tariffs. We can’t afford a new tour. Maple syrup is about to be $50” - Trevor Noah
“The main thing is I have so much compassion and love for so many people that are afraid today" - Lady Gaga
“The shocking part is not that he won. It’s that a convicted criminal who spews so much hate could hold the highest office” - Eva Longoria
“He’s the president. I’m still not going to say his name. That’s not going to change” - Whoopi Goldberg

Celebrities rail against Trump’s policies — but hesitate to say his name

Thinking people don’t really care about what Hollywood has to say.

 

[otto]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/livestory/canada-election-carney-says-nothing-is-off-the-table-to-fight-trumps-tariffs-9.6700629

I read that to mean that oil is on the table. Although the Alberta premier has said that she's in charge and she says no, the decisions falls on the federal government, not provincial governments. I think oil should be on the table, and I think that Canada should hit back hard - hard enough that this notion that Canada will happily die by 1000 USA gov't cuts is erased.

Water also needs to be on the table.

Canada's energy supply to the USA needs to be stopped, or highly tariffed. Furthermore, all USA natural resource exploration and mining in Canada needs to stop and those companies need to be expelled from the country as a "security risk" ... same excuse as the USA gov't claims about fentanyl.

The USA gov't said 10% tariff on Canada energy. Ontario said 25% surplus on energy. USA gov't said 50% tariff on automotive industry. Carney should keep going. 100% on energy. 100% on oil. Keep going until the people of the USA say stop loud enough for the gov't to hear.

I doubt it will happen, but sitting back waiting for more doesn't seem like a good idea.

 

[otto]

After @detective.moon mentioned Hollywood earlier, I was reading about Hollywood's approach to the dramas.

Apparently, many there are refusing to say Trump's name. They will speak of what is happening, but not say his name. Because they tried so hard to bring the public consciousness up into what would happen if Trump was elected - but all of their trying did not work. So now they are giving Trump the "He Who Must Not Be Named" treatment.


“I will say though, Beyoncé, there’s tariffs. We can’t afford a new tour. Maple syrup is about to be $50” - Trevor Noah
“The main thing is I have so much compassion and love for so many people that are afraid today" - Lady Gaga
“The shocking part is not that he won. It’s that a convicted criminal who spews so much hate could hold the highest office” - Eva Longoria
“He’s the president. I’m still not going to say his name. That’s not going to change” - Whoopi Goldberg

Celebrities rail against Trump’s policies — but hesitate to say his name

Is that why Trump won't say Prime Minister Carney's name? He's being stubborn?

I don't see how refusing to say Trump's name makes any difference to anyone.

 

[LovesPeace2]

I read that to mean that oil is on the table. Although the Alberta premier has said that she's in charge and she says no, the decisions falls on the federal government, not provincial governments. I think oil should be on the table, and I think that Canada should hit back hard - hard enough that this notion that Canada will happily die by 1000 USA gov't cuts is erased.

Water also needs to be on the table.

Canada's energy supply to the USA needs to be stopped, or highly tariffed. Furthermore, all USA natural resource exploration and mining in Canada needs to stop and those companies need to be expelled from the country as a "security risk" ... same excuse as the USA gov't claims about fentanyl.

The USA gov't said 10% tariff on Canada energy. Ontario said 25% surplus on energy. USA gov't said 50% tariff on automotive industry. Carney should keep going. 100% on energy. 100% on oil. Keep going until the people of the USA say stop loud enough for the gov't to hear.

I doubt it will happen, but sitting back waiting for more doesn't seem like a good idea.

I wish they would do this. It's honestly time to stop being nice.jmho

 

[otto]

Canadians are rallying behind Carney and expecting him to deal with Trump. I heard that the USA government reached out to Prime Minister Carney and requested a phone meeting. That will be set up in the next day or two.

Carney has said that Trump has to be respectful. I look forward to hearing how Carney deals with a belligerent man who thinks can steal the land from under the feet of Canadians.

NDP is flipping to Liberal. Conservative remains the same.

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[otto]

I wish they would do this. It's honestly time to stop being nice.jmho

Everyone knows that oil is the ace. Meanwhile, Alberta has a separatist premier who thinks she speaks for Albertans when she threatens that it's her way or Western Canada separation. She is delusional.

This is the same premier who is under RCMP investigation for trying to underhandedly move public health care money to private health care companies that are owned by her friends. I hope that the federal government ignores her and does what's best for Canada.

 

[SouthAussie]

Thanks, US president. Much appreciated! Perhaps this applies to other countries, as well.


Pitcher Partners' Steven Bragg says Australian consumers could be big winners from the US President's trade war as more electric vehicles make their way into the Australian market, in place of the US, potentially keeping down prices.

Live: Wall Street reacts negatively to Donald Trump's latest tariffs, ASX tipped to open lower

The ASX200 is tipped to open lower, Wall Street's major share indices lost ground overnight after investors digested the details of US President Donald Trump's latest trade tariffs. Follow live.

www.abc.net.au

 

[SouthAussie]

I don't see how refusing to say Trump's name makes any difference to anyone.

I'd say it obviously makes a difference to those who are doing it.
Do they care if it makes a difference to anyone else? Probably not.
But to them they can't respect the man, so his name is disrespected by not acknowledging it.

imo

 

[Lilibet]

That $10k is going to come out of the pockets of each USA car buyer. $100 billion is going to go from the pockets of people in the USA directly to their federal government. How is that okay with anyone?

BBM

The tariff being paid by American buyers is exactly what Harris and Walz warned about. I wonder how Trump voters feel about plugging their ears and going “La la la la” now.

 

[otto]

I'd say it obviously makes a difference to those who are doing it.
Do they care if it makes a difference to anyone else? Probably not.
But to them they can't respect the man, so his name is disrespected by not acknowledging it.

imo

Of course - what was I thinking. Hollywood people don't really care about anyone or anything beyond the mirror. Their form of protest is silence regarding the government that is at war with Canada - brilliantly artistic stance.

 

[LovesPeace2]

Everyone knows that oil is the ace. Meanwhile, Alberta has a separatist premier who thinks she speaks for Albertans when she threatens that it's her way or Western Canada separation. She is delusional.

This is the same premier who is under RCMP investigation for trying to underhandedly move public health care money to private health care companies that are owned by her friends. I hope that the federal government ignores her and does what's best for Canada.

Yep . I know us in bc don't like her at all. She needs to shut up and Work with Canada . She needs to remember BC is a western province and ya we support using oil in the tariff fight .

 

[otto]

BBM

The tariff being paid by American buyers is exactly what Harris and Walz warned about. I wonder how Trump voters feel about plugging their ears and going “La la la la” now.

Maybe Trump's cheerleaders have a fascinating propaganda story they can share with the rest of us.

I'm curious to know who they think is paying the tariff, and how that tariff results in $100 million for the USA government. Surely they don't expect Canadians to take give some of their salary to the USA government. I hope no one is gullible enough to believe that, but anything is possible.

 

[Lilibet]

Thinking people don’t really care about what Hollywood has to say.

I won’t disagree with you @BayouBelle_LA…for a change. It’s just a small form of protest that their consciences compel them to do.

Thinking people dig deeper and find experts (such as on substacks) who have the expertise to speak out against Trump turning this country into an autocracy and alienating and betraying our allies.
All from MSM: Trump Tyranny Tracker | Olga Lautman | Substack

Olga Lautman has been approved for WS by Sillybilly.

 

[otto]

Yep . I know us in bc don't like her at all. She needs to shut up and Work with Canada . She needs to remember BC is a western province and ya we support using oil in the tariff fight .

Everyone is fed up with her antics. She's using Alberta taxpayer money to run around the USA with right-wing 51 crusaders, pretending that she's going to single-handed stop tariffs. She asked the USA gov't to delay tariffs because it would help the Conservatives - who she said are better aligned with Trump.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/danielle-smith-prageru-ben-shapiro-florida-gala-analysis-1.7495432

 

[Trooper]

MSN

Panama Just Fired a Major Shot at Russia’s Secret Oil Fleet​

( Panama pushing back a bit... .. )

Panama is taking action against Russia’s expanding shadow oil fleet.

Earlier this week, Panama announced plans to deregister 128 tankers flying its flag due to their links to U.S.-sanctioned entities.

According to a Bloomberg report, this move is part of a broader crackdown on vessels helping Russia circumvent Western sanctions, particularly in the energy sector.

While removing these ships could cost Panama as much as $2 million in lost revenue, the country is signaling that it prioritizes compliance and transparency over short-term gains.

Panama is home to the world’s largest ship registry, with more than 8,000 vessels flying its flag — a longstanding symbol of its status as a “flag of convenience” state due to its low taxes and light regulations. But as global pressure mounts on maritime trade tied to sanctioned regimes like Russia and Iran, Panama’s tolerance for high-risk registrants is visibly shrinking.

Some Russian-linked ships have already responded by reflagging to more lenient jurisdictions or, in some cases, sailing without a flag altogether — effectively becoming maritime outlaws.

Panama’s latest actions follow a dramatic seizure by Germany last week of the tanker Eventin, which had been carrying 100,000 tons of Russian oil under the Panamanian flag. According to Der Spiegel, the Eventin lost control in the Baltic Sea in January and had to be towed by German vessels.

It was later added to the EU’s sanctions list in February for its role in Russia’s shadow oil fleet.

 

[Trooper]

Trump tasks JD Vance with rooting out 'distorted' narratives at Smithsonian

President Donald Trump said a "concerted and widespread" effort over the past decade has sought to rewrite American history.

www.newsweek.com

Oh no.!!!!! not the Smithsonian!!!! the Smithsonian, and the US Army Old Guard Fife and Drum Corp are the only things in the USA worth a crumpet!!!!!! HANDS OFF THE SMITHSONIAN>>>


'''''President Donald Trump on Thursday announced a sweeping plan to reshape the Smithsonian Institution, signing an executive order aimed at cutting funding to programs he claims promote "divisive narratives" and "improper ideology."

Trump said a "concerted and widespread" effort over the past decade has sought to rewrite American history by replacing "objective facts" with ideologically driven distortions.

The order places Vice President JD Vance in charge of leading the effort to eliminate what the administration deems "improper ideology" across all branches of the Smithsonian, including its museums, research centers, educational initiatives and even the National Zoo.''''''


PS... ( Maybe the Met in New York might be on the worthy list.... ) Santa Barbara station, ok.. it can be on the list.. The Guggenheim...I might think of other bits.. bits of Savannah... bits of Vermont.. thats it.

 

[Trooper]

Ireland taking a bit of a bashing re tariffs.... pharmaceutical products particularly.. god knows what insulin is going to cost in the USA soon.. epipens, panadol, etc... hard times for USA citizens, ... learning how to cope with pain unmedicated.. good lord. Because these tariffs imposed on Ireland will raise the price of medicinal products, scripted and over the counter, by at least 40%... the tariff is 25 % but the handling costs will have to be borne by the consumer, on top of the tariff..