Canada - USA Trade War commencing March 2025 #3

[Herat]

guess that is why they have to be the 51st state- too complicated if they are not (sarcasm)
maybe they will just have to pay 200% tariffs.... and they have "America" in their name, so
brownie points for that. It trades on the NYSE too.

There is an element of twisted psychopathy in your statement. If Canada was the 51st then he could claim all the $$$ billions in profits for the USA ( somehow also for himself, like as a commission).

This is actually a really sick rationale that almost makes sense in these head-twisting days of madness.

 

[Betty P]

Weren't they once known as the "huddled masses"?

Somewhere in between. Even democratic, developed countries have limits on immigration. 500,000 is a huge influx in a relatively short period of time, especially when we already have a shortage of affordable housing and health care for our own citizens. Uncontrolled immigration places a huge burden on communities and erodes quality of life and standards of living.

Countries like those in Europe and elsewhere have fair limits and restrictions on immigration. The US should return to that, too.

 

[Herat]

guess that is why they have to be the 51st state- too complicated if they are not (sarcasm)
maybe they will just have to pay 200% tariffs.... and they have "America" in their name, so
brownie points for that. It trades on the NYSE too.

Who's going to be the one that tells him the company is Canadian?

 

[SouthAussie]

Trump revoking protections for 530,000 Cubans, Haitians and other migrants

Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans who entered the US under a Biden-era programme face deportation.

www.bbc.com

US President Donald Trump's administration has said it will revoke the temporary legal status of more than half a million migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela.
Those migrants have been warned to leave the country before their permits and deportation shield are cancelled on 24 April, according to a notice posted by the federal government.
The 530,000 migrants were brought into the US under a Biden-era sponsorship process known as CHNV that was designed to open legal migration pathways. Trump suspended the programme once he took office.

My understanding is that the US would allow in 30,000 CHNV immigrants each month, while Mexico allowed the same amount of illegal immigrants from those 4 countries to be deported to Mexico.

So it was a balanced approach. 30,000 legal migrators in, 30,000 illegal migrators out - on a monthly basis.

The people coming in legally had to have a US financial sponsor (legally declared and approved), pass a background check, and pay their own way.

AND the US had job growth during this entire period.

Seems very unfair that they now be deported. Sure, close the program if Trump wants to ... but to deport those who have already legally passed into the US? There may be a legal challenge there, if Trump doesn't ignore it (again). It is basically saying 'anyone who came here legally in the last 2 years, you're gone'. imo



Starting in January 2023, the government of Mexico agreed to allow the U.S. to expel up to 30,000 migrants from those countries to Mexico each month—preventing them from requesting asylum under U.S. immigration law.
The Biden Administration’s Humanitarian Parole Program for Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans


Through December, the US economy added jobs for 48 consecutive months, tying the second-longest period of employment expansion on record, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics data that goes back to 1939.

He’s the first US president to oversee monthly job gains for the entirety of his presidency.
Biden’s economic legacy

 

[musicaljoke]

Somewhere in between. Even democratic, developed countries have limits on immigration. 500,000 is a huge influx in a relatively short period of time, especially when we already have a shortage of affordable housing and health care for our own citizens. Uncontrolled immigration places a huge burden on communities and erodes quality of life and standards of living.

Countries like those in Europe and elsewhere have fair limits and restrictions on immigration. The US should return to that, too.

It's not a huge number of immigrants to receive each year. Canada allows about 400,000 immigrants per year and we still have labour shortages. Immigrants are especially needed as baby boomer are retiring in droves. In the US, 10,000 baby boomers are retiring each day!! That's about three million people coming out of the work force each year. This huge shift will make a significant impact on the work force and the economy if the US doesn't keep up with immigration

Sending back people who are already established in the US, have housing and jobs, and are contributing members of communities across the US, isn't being done because there are too many immigrants in the US.

The reason for doing so is transparent. Nationalism and racism pervade all aspects of fascist practice.

Yearly increase of U.S. Baby Boomer retirees 2020| Statista

In 2020, *** million Baby Boomers - those born between 1946 and 1964 - went into retirement in the United States, more than in prior years.

www.statista.com

 

[SouthAussie]

It's not a huge number of immigrants to receive each year. Canada allows about 400,000 immigrants per year (RSBM)

We are an even smaller country and we let in 667,000 migrants last year, 739,000 the year before. Our average before that was about 500,000 a year.

I think we had more in the last two years because we let few in during the peak years of covid, so we are kind of making up our average numbers.

We also lose people who migrate away from Australia, but not as many so we are always in a "plus" situation each year.

Overseas Migration, 2023-24 financial year

Statistics on Australia's international migration, by state and territory, country of birth, visa, age and sex.

www.abs.gov.au

 

[musicaljoke]

We are an even smaller country and we let in 667,000 migrants last year, 739,000 the year before. Our average before that was about 500,000 a year.

I think we had more in the last two years because we let few in during the peak years of covid, so we are kind of making up our average numbers.

We also lose people who migrate away from Australia, but not as many so we are always in a "plus" situation each year.

Overseas Migration, 2023-24 financial year

Statistics on Australia's international migration, by state and territory, country of birth, visa, age and sex.

www.abs.gov.au

Canada needs to bring in more immigrants. People carp about housing shortages, but who do they think is going to be building houses if we don't bring in enough labourers?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

MSN

Trump weighs in on report King Charles will offer U.S. membership to British Commonwealth: ‘Sounds good!’​

 

[ekc]

MSN

Trump weighs in on report King Charles will offer U.S. membership to British Commonwealth: ‘Sounds good!’​

hmmm

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I was hoping it was satire but the article seems to be real.

hmmm

 

[SouthAussie]

MSN

Trump weighs in on report King Charles will offer U.S. membership to British Commonwealth: ‘Sounds good!’​

That's interesting. Canada was the first Commonwealth country.

The 56-member bloc has roots in the post-Second World War era when the U.K. began divesting itself of its massive colonial empire. And Canada, the subject of current tensions with the U.S., was the first member.


Having America joining the Commonwealth, even as an associate member, could be a way for Charles to smooth over tensions between Washington, London and Ottawa that have erupted over Trump’s frequently-stated desire to make Canada ..... the 51st American state rather than the fully independent nation it has been since the 1982 Canadian constitution removed the country’s vestigial legal dependence on the British parliament.

(from your link)

 

[ekc]

I was hoping it was satire but the article seems to be real.

according to the Daily Mail yes the King did invite him...but WHY? heck he does not understand protocol ....what is Charles thinking...jat

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Maybe King Charles is after the Nobel Peace Prize...
He might trump Trump to it

 

[SouthAussie]

according to the Daily Mail yes the King did invite him...but WHY? heck he does not understand protocol ....what is Charles thinking...jat

My guess is that it is a last ditch effort to bring the US back to democracy, instead of where it is headed ... with a little flattery thrown Trump's way (with the invitation to see the King), which Trump loves. The King could show him how a real King acts (hint: not like a mob boss).

It would be a comfort for many US citizens to be aligned with the good guys instead of the bad guys.

Will it work? Probably not. But maybe we have to at least try.

imo

 

[Betty P]

It's not a huge number of immigrants to receive each year. Canada allows about 400,000 immigrants per year and we still have labour shortages. Immigrants are especially needed as baby boomer are retiring in droves. In the US, 10,000 baby boomers are retiring each day!! That's about three million people coming out of the work force each year. This huge shift will make a significant impact on the work force and the economy if the US doesn't keep up with immigration

Sending back people who are already established in the US, have housing and jobs, and are contributing members of communities across the US, isn't being done because there are too many immigrants in the US.

The reason for doing so is transparent. Nationalism and racism pervade all aspects of fascist practice.

Yearly increase of U.S. Baby Boomer retirees 2020| Statista

In 2020, *** million Baby Boomers - those born between 1946 and 1964 - went into retirement in the United States, more than in prior years.

www.statista.com

I’m not sure what a good number would be, but they need to work out something sustainable and affordable, perhaps with employers paying taxes to help cover the cost. They also need US has long needed a guest worker program, too,instead of allowing workers to be secretly imported and abused by employers here. Again, employers should help cover the cost of these programs.

They also need to be screening people, as would happen to any American who moved to a European country to work.

 

[LoveyG]

RSBM
This teacher deserves a medal.

Everyone is welcome here, snap back.

 

[LoveyG]

Weren't they once known as the "huddled masses"?

France wants the Statue of Liberty back. I don't blame them.

From France comes a call for Trump's America to return Lady Liberty. Here's why it won't happen

A French politician has suggested the U.S. is no longer worthy of keeping the Statue of Liberty. Raphaël Glucksmann is a member of the European Parliament and co-president of a small left-wing party.

apnews.com

 

[Yellowbelly]

according to the Daily Mail yes the King did invite him...but WHY? heck he does not understand protocol ....what is Charles thinking...jat

KCIII isn't thinking anything. He's doing what he's told. That's what kings do nowadays!

By that, I mean that as a constitutional monarch, the King only acts in the political realm on the advice of his prime minister. Therefore, such an overtly political act as offering the USA membership of the Commonwealth at the present time can only be because Starmer has advised the King to do so.

 

[otto]

The USA government spreads false information across the USA on a daily basis to wind-up people across the country and convince them that they are victims of Canada. As victims, they will tolerate war and economic hardship to regain rights that they always had; never lost.

Both the USA and Canada have supply management of some products. For Canada, it includes dairy, chickens, eggs, wheat, barley. For USA, it includes tobacco, sugar, peanuts, cotton, beef, cereal.

The USA government falsely states that over-quota tariff rates (rarely used) are the only tariff. The gov't neglects to mention that the high tariff is only applied to over quota. The USA gov't also neglects to mention that the highest tariff in the agreement is imposed by the USA at 350% on tobacco.

"The widespread belief in the U.S. that Canada actually charges tariff rates of 200 per cent or more could influence Americans to be more supportive of the Trump administration's position. They could be more tolerant of the financial losses and economic pain caused by a trade war if they believe it is being fought to redress such a lopsided imbalance.

As Canadian officials learned in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, when they had to spend years trying to correct misinformation that hijackers had entered the U.S. through Canada, it can be very hard to correct a false impression once it has firmly established itself in the American political conversation.
...

"You could talk about other supply-managed products [chicken, eggs] in Canada, you could talk about sugar and peanuts in the United States," he said.

The U.S. protects its sugar beet and sugar cane industry from outside producers through a tariff rate quota, as well as its cotton, beef and cereal farmers. Canada famously does the same for its dairy and poultry farmers. But it also issues an annual quota for wheat and barley and some other products.
...

Trump and White House officials have often often presented the over-quota tariff rates charged by Canada as the going rate for normal trade, and omitted to mention their own over-quota rates that range as high as 350 per cent for tobacco (the single-highest tariff on the books affecting U.S.-Canada trade.)"​

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-trade-war-disinformation-1.7489805

 

[otto]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-premiers-meeting-1.7489368

New measures announced:

• Temporarily waving the one-week employment insurance waiting period.
• Temporarily allowing businesses to defer corporate income-tax payments and GST and HST remittances.
• Deploying a new financing facility (the Large Enterprise Economic and National Security Facility).
• Implementing a "one window" approval process to speed up major projects.
• Doubling the Indigenous Loan Guarantee to $10 billion, unlocking access to capital for First Nations, Inuit and Métis.
• Providing more funding for regional development agencies.
• Removing any mobility restrictions for federally regulated professions.

I'd like to see a total of all the money Carney has promised since he became prime minister, plus the money Trudeau promised in his last 2 months as prime minister.

I think Canadians will be shocked to see the budget according to the Liberal government past and present.