Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #52

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  • #921
These options for not hiring a PI express contempt for the victim that BM possibly possessed. We don't kill the people we love then secret their bodies.

How could Suzanne not feel his contempt? Had she ever considered that her husband may be contemplating her death?

Rage, perhaps coupled with one's current or pending circumstances, may have led to her death. How could Suzanne not sense violence could result?

I ask these things as a survivor.
Glad that you survived and are here today.
 
  • #922
These options for not hiring a PI express contempt for the victim that BM possibly possessed. We don't kill the people we love then secret their bodies.

How could Suzanne not feel his contempt? Had she ever considered that her husband may be contemplating her death?

Rage, perhaps coupled with one's current or pending circumstances, may have led to her death. How could Suzanne not sense violence could result?

I ask these things as a survivor.
I think people sometimes do kill people they love and hide their bodies. There are not always warning signs. For example, in a crime of passion when the perpetrator never intended to commit murder, then panics and covers up the crime.

In other cases, some people are so good at hiding their feelings or emotions, their partner never thinks them capable of doing harm.

Most people who have spoken about the Morphews said they seemed to be a happy couple, although AM said that recently things may not have been so "hunky dory." Some say BM was controlling, but we don't know if there was any ongoing domestic abuse.

The only ones who truly know what was going on in the marriage are likely Barry and Suzanne.

Suzanne needs to be found so her story can be told. If not, I hope LE is building a very strong case.
 
  • #923
Intoo
These options for not hiring a PI express contempt for the victim that BM possibly possessed. We don't kill the people we love then secret their bodies.

How could Suzanne not feel his contempt? Had she ever considered that her husband may be contemplating her death?

Rage, perhaps coupled with one's current or pending circumstances, may have led to her death. How could Suzanne not sense violence could result?

I ask these things as a survivor.
I too am a survivor and I’ve wondered two scenarios. Either Suzanne survived her cancer and came out on the other side knowing she didn’t want to be with Barry or the week away from the kids while camping was meant to afford her the time to tell Barry she was leaving. Barry didn’t like it. She may have even told him earlier in the week and he had to bide his time to build up to murdering and disappearing her. I really think he had planned to eliminate her that week but it took a while for him to actually act on it and the girls were eventually coming home. IMO
 
  • #924
I am fast losing hope that this case will be resolved. I worry that there will be no Justice for Suzanne, at least in this world. :(
 
  • #925
Question: there’s no obligation to disclose a PI’s involvement, correct? It’s possible that BM has, in fact, hired a PI, right?
 
  • #926
Question: there’s no obligation to disclose a PI’s involvement, correct? It’s possible that BM has, in fact, hired a PI, right?
There is no obligation to disclose it no, but IMO Barry would be bragging about it . Barry would be like I have this PI, this PI blah blah blah !!
Moo
 
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  • #927
These options for not hiring a PI express contempt for the victim that BM possibly possessed. We don't kill the people we love then secret their bodies.

How could Suzanne not feel his contempt? Had she ever considered that her husband may be contemplating her death?

Rage, perhaps coupled with one's current or pending circumstances, may have led to her death. How could Suzanne not sense violence could result?

I ask these things as a survivor.
I’m glad you survived. I think she felt it , as I’m sure you understand , I’ve been there too. Verbal is just as scary. You can feel something change with them I think.
Moo
 
  • #928
Question: there’s no obligation to disclose a PI’s involvement, correct? It’s possible that BM has, in fact, hired a PI, right?
With so many people following the minute details of literally everyone connected to BM and this case, if a PI were hired and was out and about asking questions, it would have already been reported in either MSM, SM or both. So even though BM is certainly not obligated to disclose that he'd hired a PI, it wouldn't be a secret for long.

jmo
 
  • #929
At link below discusses BM’s interview with TD.
Snipped and BBM from the article:

“What seems to have happened, from the investigators, and they don’t give much … and I’ve got private people working for me … is maybe she was abducted …”

* whether BM’s “private people” working for him includes a PI is anyone’s guess. Personally, I think had he hired one, we’d have heard something about a PI going around making inquiries/asking questions, but who knows.

SEE IT: Husband of missing Colorado woman Suzanne Morphew shares details of wife’s disappearance in secret recording, suggesting she may have been kidnapped [VIDEO]


IMHOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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  • #930
Ten months ago Suzanne went missing.
Ten months.

What has Barry done since then?
One 26 second video plea.
Two reports of posting flyers.
Three properties sold.
Four people jetted off to Mexico for vacation.

We can see you, Barry.
Tick Tock
 
  • #931
Ten months ago Suzanne went missing.
Ten months.

What has Barry done since then?
One 26 second video plea.
Two reports of posting flyers.
Three properties sold.
Four people jetted off to Mexico for vacation.

We can see you, Barry.
Tick Tock
So nothing. He’s done basically nothing .
Moo
 
  • #932
...Ten months.
What has Barry done since then? ... Four people jetted off to Mexico for vacation....
@steeltowngirl Thx for your post.
re bbm Wait a sec. Was I in a coma or just asleep?
Who, When? Anyone got a link handy? TiA.
 
  • #933
I’m glad you survived. I think she felt it , as I’m sure you understand , I’ve been there too. Verbal is just as scary. You can feel something change with them I think.
Moo

Thank you. I'm sorry to learn you endured similar circumstances. I managed a well-planned escape from terror.

The controlling type personality is difficult to deal with since one day everything is fine and the next moment, without warning, nothing is right. And, it's never their fault.

BM may have been able to fool many people but Suzanne knew him best. Thus, would have felt the brunt of any of his unhappiness or displeasure intentionally placed upon her shoulders.

Like Suzanne, I was married 20yrs, staying for my child's sake until her 2nd yr of college. Suzanne still had one daughter at home.

BM enjoys listening to his own voice speaking. Classic NPD sign. He uses his language, and tone, in order to control and manipulate situations, including the flow of money.

It's noted that SM did not particularly want to move to CO. He may have been using this form of control by isolating her, jmho. And, of course, we all know the most dangerous time for the wife is when she's preparing to leave the marriage.
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  • #934
@steeltowngirl Thx for your post.
re bbm Wait a sec. Was I in a coma or just asleep?
Who, When? Anyone got a link handy? TiA.

CM mentions it here on his youtube channel
(right around the 23 minute mark he gets into it about the Morphew case).

But he says a lot in that segment which is why @Sillybilly posted this:

"Although CM has been approved as a source at WS, without knowing his source and what he is basing this allegation on, we're removing the info about BM having a girlfriend as rumor. If not true, it's just too inflammatory." https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...y-10-may-2020-52.557298/page-45#post-16669682

So even though it's a different (sort of?) subject it's the same premise: we don't know his source or what he bases this on, so technically I guess it's still a rumor? I'm not really sure. CM isn't at all forthcoming with where the info comes from so, unverified. Hope that helps.
 
  • #935
Thank you. I'm sorry to learn you endured similar circumstances. I managed a well-planned escape from terror.

The controlling type personality is difficult to deal with since one day everything is fine and the next moment, without warning, nothing is right. And, it's never their fault.

BM may have been able to fool many people but Suzanne knew him best. Thus, would have felt the brunt of any of his unhappiness or displeasure intentionally placed upon her shoulders.

Like Suzanne, I was married 20yrs, staying for my child's sake until her 2nd yr of college. Suzanne still had one daughter at home.

BM enjoys listening to his own voice speaking. Classic NPD sign. He uses his language, and tone, in order to control and manipulate situations, including the flow of money.

It's noted that SM did not particularly want to move to CO. He may have been using this form of control by isolating her, jmho. And, of course, we all know the most dangerous time for the wife is when she's preparing to leave the marriage.
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I agree with everything you said 100%. You are so right, its like constant chaos. I think he is classic NPD too. I really really do, and they come off so charming until you get them behind closed doors!

MOO
 
  • #936
...I managed a well-planned escape from terror....It's noted that SM did not particularly want to move to CO. He may have been using this form of control by isolating her, jmho.....
@DeDee bbm sbm Thx for your post. Sorry that you went thru that dangerous departure but glad it worked & you are here w us.

Re bbm I recall reading this early on and thinking it may have been true - that SM was not eager to move to CO.
I've known some ppl moving hundreds of miles away from family and lifelong hometown who told people (including fam) that they did not really, really, really want to move, and were so, so, so sorry to leave. Some were telling the absolute truth.

Some relatives saw the move as reflecting on them, almost an insult, a betrayal of family - how dare you move away from this perfect clan's nest in Shangri-la. By expressing hesitation or doubt about the move, some movers were just trying to placate those relatives.

Not saying saying this was true for SM or her family, just considering possibilities.
 
  • #937
Barry moved her IMO !!! That is why the canines hit so many different areas , that is why he was so nervous during these searches . They need to go back to places they searched again. They may need new warrants now, and not publicize it before they search . Let it be known after it’s completed !

moo

Yep. Cadaver dogs hit at 3 different locations. I don't think even a tooth was discovered.

He established an alibi. Both the hotel room and the Morphew home suspiciously smelled of chlorine.

"... he (Andy) believes Suzanne was killed sometime on the Saturday night before she was reported missing.

“She was seen in town with Barry getting a sandwich at 4 p.m.,” Moorman said. “At midnight, somebody friended all of the guys my age on her Facebook...”
Suzanne Morphew’s brother shares new details about her last known sighting and strange activity on his sister’s Facebook page hours before she was reported missing

Did BM plan the Idaho/Utah trip? If so, that situation shows premeditation to coincide with Suzanne missing. I don't think she's hidden at an obvious work site or land they owned in the past. However, she's hidden very well.

Chris Watts drove 45 minutes from home to secrete his family's bodies. Andy Moorman feels his sister is within a three and a half hours window of the marital home.
Missing Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew disappeared 9 months ago: What we know
 
  • #938
Interesting that BM’s Plea intimated that he believed that Suzanne had been abducted, and he’s stated outright that he believes that she was abducted.

He stated that he believed Suzanne was abducted, yet moved quickly to take over Suzanne’s affairs then proceeded to sell her house, his truck and most everything that she was familiar with.

MOO
 
  • #939
Interesting that BM’s Plea intimated that he believed that Suzanne had been abducted, and he’s stated outright that he believes that she was abducted.

He stated that he believed Suzanne was abducted, yet moved quickly to take over Suzanne’s affairs then proceeded to sell her house, his truck and most everything that she was familiar with.

MOO
BM is the epitome of the saying "actions speak louder than words".
In his case, they have a bullhorn.

jmo
 
  • #940
@DeDee bbm sbm Thx for your post. Sorry that you went thru that dangerous departure but glad it worked & you are here w us.

Re bbm I recall reading this early on and thinking it may have been true - that SM was not eager to move to CO.
I've known some ppl moving hundreds of miles away from family and lifelong hometown who told people (including fam) that they did not really, really, really want to move, and were so, so, so sorry to leave. Some were telling the absolute truth.

Some relatives saw the move as reflecting on them, almost an insult, a betrayal of family - how dare you move away from this perfect clan's nest in Shangri-la. By expressing hesitation or doubt about the move, some movers were just trying to placate those relatives.

Not saying saying this was true for SM or her family, just considering possibilities.

Thank you, al66pine.

In years past in IN, SM and BM were not neighbors of her family members, although they did live an hour's drive or less, for the most part.

Their CO home was a 20 minute drive into Salida which eliminates the immediate convenience for shopping, grocery and restaurant locales. There may have been issues with reliable wifi. Initially, she had no friends in Salida. I think she became active with high school activities.

However, you very well could be right in that Suzanne's family weren't pleased with the move. But, why? Did they feel she was protected near them in IN, esp. given the cancer treatments.

"According to the source, the Morphew family moved from Indiana to central Colorado in the spring of 2018, after the Morphew’s eldest daughter moved to Colorado for college, and when their younger daughter was still in high school. The source said they believe Suzanne was less enthusiastic about the move than her husband was.

“I think there was some angst about the move itself,” the source said, noting that the Morphew’s Alexandria home remained on the market for a while after the family relocated to Colorado. <snip>."

The Indiana-based source said that Suzanne’s cancer had returned around the time the family was preparing to move to Colorado in 2018, and that she “was not doing well” at that time.
Missing Suzanne Morphew may have had ‘angst’ about move to Colorado, family friend says [EXCLUSIVE]
 
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