UK Eliza & Henrietta Huszti, sisters both 32, CCTV captures them near a river at 2am, Aberdeen, 7 Jan 2025 #2

[erikar]

As far as I can see on Google Maps: at the end where they turned onto the path, there is a camera on the other side, but it looks straight at the road after the bridge. If they were only captured by the camera that is a little further inside the bridge than where we saw them the previous afternoon, at night they would only be visible as moving spots on the path from that distance. I don't dispute that this camera is looking at the path from the other side of the bridge. I don't know if the city has installed new cameras since then, maybe ones that can see 360 degrees. I didn't include the cameras that take in the sidewalk and definitely recorded them. I'm not sure that they turned onto the path based on the cameras.

 

[Ocalasunrise]

If cctv worked like you think it does there'd be no crime. This isn't the movies.

Also esplanade/menzies must have had a huge crime spike in a year from practically no cameras to everyone having them. This needs to be confirmed by other locals.

And that's a very good point. CCTV isn't like the movies. It's set up to capture any potential criminal activity around a premises, it's not there to set up onto the street/path to film everyone going past. Absence of evidence isn't, evidence of absence etc.

 

[TonnnnUK]

I'm not sure that they turned onto the path based on the cameras.

The very first appeals by authorities stated the sisters crossed the bridge and turned onto the path towards the boat clubs. They must have conclusive proof of that happening.

 

[erikar]

The very first appeals by authorities stated the sisters crossed the bridge and turned onto the path towards the boat clubs. They must have conclusive proof of that happening.

I thought something had led their investigation astray. For example, the police dog could smell the previous day's scent if they walked the trail the previous afternoon and there was no snow. The other thing is that they were both wearing boots the day before. In the night shot, the girl with the lighter coat is wearing high-heeled shoes and a small evening bag. If I know that I'm going to meet someone on an icy, unpaved path that has a slope at the beginning, and it's dark, I don't choose these shoes. Doesn't sound like suicide to me at all. They had a meeting with someone, at least the dressed-up girl. It would be good if the media did a little research and asked acquaintances and colleagues, because they have the freedom to do so. What the police cannot say ex officio, they could do. I can imagine that the police will not allow them to research and disclose. And this can happen if the disappearance of the sisters leads much further.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

I thought something had led their investigation astray. For example, the police dog could smell the previous day's scent if they walked the trail the previous afternoon and there was no snow. The other thing is that they were both wearing boots the day before. In the night shot, the girl with the lighter coat is wearing high-heeled shoes and a small evening bag. If I know that I'm going to meet someone on an icy, unpaved path that has a slope at the beginning, and it's dark, I don't choose these shoes. Doesn't sound like suicide to me at all. They had a meeting with someone, at least the dressed-up girl. It would be good if the media did a little research and asked acquaintances and colleagues, because they have the freedom to do so. What the police cannot say ex officio, they could do. I can imagine that the police will not allow them to research and disclose. And this can happen if the disappearance of the sisters leads much further.

Police have not released a written description of what the sisters were wearing the night/morning they disappeared, they have only released that one still image where you think one is wearing heels and carrying an evening bag. I disagree with this. I think the heels you talk of are more like flat patent leather brogues, and I do not see anything that looks like an evening bag. This topic has been discussed further up the thread. We all have our own opinions on what we think they're wearing, what they're carrying and their demeanor. Police have not given us any verbal/written details on this, it's open for interpretation.

 

[Izzylizzy]

IMO"
The sister in the tan long coat is wearing the exact outer clothes in both photos.
Hat,coat,red scarf,legging/pants and footwear.

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Eliza and Henrietta Huszti were last seen on CCTV in Market Street in Aberdeen (PA Wire)

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[iamshadow21]

IMO"
The sister in the tan long coat is wearing the exact outer clothes in both photos.
Hat,coat,red scarf,legging/pants and footwear.

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Sisters Who Vanished After Night Walk Near River Sent Eerie Final Text Before Disappearing: Police

Two sisters who went missing near a river in Aberdeen, Scotland, two weeks ago sent an eerie final text to their landlady at the same time that they vanished, according to local police.

people.com

open image in gallery
Eliza and Henrietta Huszti were last seen on CCTV in Market Street in Aberdeen (PA Wire)

The mystery of the missing Huszti sisters: Aberdeen bridge CCTV and abandoned tenancy

A body has now been recovered from a river near where the two missing sisters were last seen in Aberdeen

www.independent.co.uk

I think they're both wearing the same thing, minus the white bobble hat.

 

[Kemug]

Would you say that one sister is a bit more "dressed up" than the other? eg possible evening bag. If so (and yes, I'm clutching at straws here), maybe they were each expecting different things at the end of this walk. One suicide, one not?

 

[Izzylizzy]

Would you say that one sister is a bit more "dressed up" than the other? eg possible evening bag. If so (and yes, I'm clutching at straws here), maybe they were each expecting different things at the end of this walk. One suicide, one not?

I can't see an evening bag or for that matter heels on the sister with the tan coat.
Is there an enlarged photo that could clear this up?
I enlarged the photo with my "+" but it wasn't any clearer.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

I can't see an evening bag or for that matter heels on the sister with the tan coat.
Is there an enlarged photo that could clear this up?
I enlarged the photo with my "+" but it wasn't any clearer.

Nope, pretty sure it's just these 2 CCTV shots. All other pics released have been happy snaps from earlier on. I think a member did some work on these pictures to make them clearer, but I personally wasn't able to see anything any better.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

Would you say that one sister is a bit more "dressed up" than the other? eg possible evening bag. If so (and yes, I'm clutching at straws here), maybe they were each expecting different things at the end of this walk. One suicide, one not?

No, I don't see that. Maybe they just have slightly different styles when not dressing exactly the same?

 

[MarziPanda]

I thought something had led their investigation astray. For example, the police dog could smell the previous day's scent if they walked the trail the previous afternoon and there was no snow. The other thing is that they were both wearing boots the day before. In the night shot, the girl with the lighter coat is wearing high-heeled shoes and a small evening bag. If I know that I'm going to meet someone on an icy, unpaved path that has a slope at the beginning, and it's dark, I don't choose these shoes. Doesn't sound like suicide to me at all. They had a meeting with someone, at least the dressed-up girl. It would be good if the media did a little research and asked acquaintances and colleagues, because they have the freedom to do so. What the police cannot say ex officio, they could do. I can imagine that the police will not allow them to research and disclose. And this can happen if the disappearance of the sisters leads much further.

The police would not be making such sure statements if they only had a police scent dog to go on. They have outright said that the women are seen on CCTV entering the footpath:

"What we do know is that, at the moment, CCTV provides that they entered a footpath adjacent to the River Dee and we have no trace of them leaving that footpath yet," he said. (from: Hunt for missing sisters in Aberdeen is not a criminal case, police say )

Like others have said, I'm not seeing any heels or an evening bag.

 

[FromGermany1]

IMO"
The sister in the tan long coat is wearing the exact outer clothes in both photos.
Hat,coat,red scarf,legging/pants and footwear.

View attachment 560436

Sisters Who Vanished After Night Walk Near River Sent Eerie Final Text Before Disappearing: Police

Two sisters who went missing near a river in Aberdeen, Scotland, two weeks ago sent an eerie final text to their landlady at the same time that they vanished, according to local police.

people.com

open image in gallery
Eliza and Henrietta Huszti were last seen on CCTV in Market Street in Aberdeen (PA Wire)

The mystery of the missing Huszti sisters: Aberdeen bridge CCTV and abandoned tenancy

A body has now been recovered from a river near where the two missing sisters were last seen in Aberdeen

www.independent.co.uk

Would we know, if it is really the same sister, who is wearing the tan coat on both days?

 

[galois]

As far as I can see on Google Maps: at the end where they turned onto the path, there is a camera on the other side, but it looks straight at the road after the bridge. If they were only captured by the camera that is a little further inside the bridge than where we saw them the previous afternoon, at night they would only be visible as moving spots on the path from that distance. I don't dispute that this camera is looking at the path from the other side of the bridge. I don't know if the city has installed new cameras since then, maybe ones that can see 360 degrees. I didn't include the cameras that take in the sidewalk and definitely recorded them. I'm not sure that they turned onto the path based on the cameras.

Earlier in this thread (I think on page 3) a user who visited the area reported that there's a 360 CCTV camera located directly across the road from the entrance to the river path. The camera that can be seen on Google Maps must have been replaced sometime after November 2021.

 

[Doric Loon]

Earlier in this thread (I think on page 3) a user who visited the area reported that there's a 360 CCTV camera located directly across the road from the entrance to the river path. The camera that can be seen on Google Maps must have been replaced sometime after November 2021.

If you mean this camera (4WQ6+R75 Aberdeen) it has been. It’s a moveable 360 camera, with a zoom. Doesn’t see in 360° at all times though.

As well as that camera,
There is also LE/LA cameras covering both ends of the bridge. One at 4WQ6+3PH (Google search codes) Aberdeen (sees in all directions all the time, stood under it, it can see the entrance to the path although quite a bit away)
The other here 4WR5+8XG Aberdeen (pick the latest Google Street view image, recently upgraded)

Just from one camera alone they would have an accurate picture of where they went. Then add in private CCTV.

 

[Kaypetta]

Aberdeen Harbour WebCams

 

[davidt]

Nope, pretty sure it's just these 2 CCTV shots. All other pics released have been happy snaps from earlier on. I think a member did some work on these pictures to make them clearer, but I personally wasn't able to see anything any better.

I couldn't make out anything further either. Given the police have tracked them to the footpath you'd imagine they have plenty more images. However if they do, I'm a little surprised they haven't released a better one. I would have thought in order to get the best possible response from the public you would want to put out the clearest picture you can. If this is the best they have it doesn't say a lot for the other CCTV images.

 

[guiser]

Well quite.
If the entire area is so bristling with state of the art CCTV that they couldn't possibly have snuck from the footpath under the bridge through a gap in the fence, or into a car or building, how come all we have is a grainy picture of them on the bridge?

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Well quite.
If the entire area is so bristling with state of the art CCTV that they couldn't possibly have snuck from the footpath under the bridge through a gap in the fence, or into a car or building, how come all we have is a grainy picture of them on the bridge?

We are not privy to what other evidence the police have. They may well have tracked vehicle and people movements on other cameras in the area, and if they had a hit they would have updated the last seen information.

We are also not privy to what else the police may know, or have seen in the flat. Or private background not shared. I’d be willing to bet whatever caused the landlady concern was a game changer though. And that no bank or credit cards, or phones, have been used.

Even the limited information out there suggests so strongly that these girls went in the water of their own accord that it wouldn’t surprise me if a somewhat limited cctv trawl has occurred because it’s hugely labour intensive.

 

[TonnnnUK]

To be fair, the authorities have never asked the public if they've seen the sisters and given full descriptions of what they were wearing at the time of their disappearances as they usually would describe what they were wearing.

They've put out the first CCTV capture to go with the initial appeals, and then the one of them visiting the bridge earlier in the day as more of an update. I believe that one is very grainy as it will be a cropped version of a much wider shot.

CCTV doesn't have to be crystal clear for them to be traced through the city. Two females, at a probably pretty quiet time of the (Monday) night will be easy to make out on even grainy footage.

One question I have with the theory of them masterminding their disappearances via the guise of suicide/accidental death by way of entering the river.

Why go to that hassle when they could probably have quietly just left their home and into a vehicle without any CCTV footage seeing them. No bank accounts used for several weeks and the conclusion would be they are missing and presumed dead without any clues of them leaving their property. They'd still be in the same situation as now, without having to walk by a river on a freezing night for the cover up.

Both scenarios require outside (underworld) help, assumes they are dead....and theoretically they can then go onto another country/area with assumed identities/smuggled across borders to start a new life?

Not sure what those thinking this is intentional disappearance are thinking is their next move or why the need to fake their death than simply just vanish?