UK Eliza & Henrietta Huszti, sisters both 32, CCTV captures them near a river at 2am, Aberdeen, 7 Jan 2025 #2

[annpats]

Agree most suicide victims don't leave a note, sadly.

But people are saying, most don't contact their landlords either. But maybe -- what you say to a landlord is "business" and not emotionally fraught, unlike what you'd feel writing to family. JMO.

I think the rented apartment is the only loose end that needed tying up.

Perhaps they felt distant from their other siblings and family, and didn't wish to leave a note......or perhaps that may have been quite close, and couldn't bring themselves to write a note to them.

It's easier to send a message to a landlady about the rental agreement and that you won't be coming back. It's easy, matter-of-fact and there is no emotion attached.

 

[marloweclover]

CCTV would be less helpful if one had prearranged one's disappearance with the owner of the CCTV, or even an employee with access at a particular location. Easy enough to have a mishap to the system a day or two beforehand, or change the settings to view but not record, or adjust the camera angle to miss a specific path, or something like that. IMO this is unlikely, but not literally impossible.

Also in the same general realm of wild possibilities, if one accessed an unrecorded building or vehicle from the path by prearrangement, and then stayed hidden and waited to leave said location at a normal, busy time of day by enclosed work van or box truck or something like that, I don't recall reading that police were searching every vehicle leaving the area the following morning. Just wild speculation. I don't personally think these things happened, but I think they aren't impossible.

 

[Doric Loon]

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However, for the simple fact the Police have continued to stop drivers in the area to ask questions means they are not 100% sure of any scenario yet. If they had gathered reliable recordings from every available camera in the area and had ruled out every car in the area at that time then what would be the point of continuing to investigate?

They often do this, even when they have evidence of someone going in the water. Police will always want all data they can get their hands on, I don’t find this unusual.

 

[Doric Loon]

But they're not quite as traceable or identifiable as cars, are they?
And a very small fibreglass fishing boat or even a RIB/dinghy could've been used.

No boat would have left the Harbour undetected and it wouldn’t be able to go the other way due to CCTV on the boat houses and further up the river at low ish tide, I’m unsure if a boat could get much further up the river, as it is unlike the section they went missing, rather shallow, further up than that there are houses close to the water, which despite the time would have mentioned being woken by a powered boat.

I mean sure someone could have paddle boarded or some sort of other human powered rowing boat to come get them but it would have been hard seeing the floating ice etc on the day.

 

[FromGermany1]

Thx for the update, this unfortunately changes things

The three likely scenarios were cutting across, getting passed the boat house unseen(camera off/bad angle) or the water.

I haven't seen much info from the articles on the surveillance at the boat club that night, maybe it was mentioned in a press conference?

I wonder, which home owners heard nightly screams, probably by females, probably at the questionable time (otherwise I think, it wouldn't have been mentioned).

 

[Kemug]

My heart wants them to be alive, but my brain thinks they suicided in the river. Although I still think so much preparation for it is a bit problematic.

 

[Melt71]

......I still think so much preparation for it is a bit problematic.

Not in my experience - I had a friend die by suicide within the last 2 weeks and they were meticulous in their planning in different but sadly also similar ways (pre-arranging the location, for example).

 

[Kemug]

Not in my experience - I had a friend die by suicide within the last 2 weeks and they were meticulous in their planning in different but sadly also similar ways (pre-arranging the location, for example).

I am so sorry for your loss, and your friend's pain.

 

[davidt]

We are also not talking about one individual. Like the other twin case, one might have been just going along with it rather than having the full idealisation of it and therefore maybe not doing the things that a ‘normal’ single person suicide, who’s goal is only that, would likely do ie not be mindful about contacting the landlord.

But we also don’t know the context of that, the landlord could have been asking WTF is going on and sent several texts to prompt a passive or aggressive we wont be back, FU sort of thing or it could have an out if the blue text from the point of caring about the landlords property and as a someone they may have been close to. We don’t know that context.

Yes I'm mindful we are talking about two people. If they are in the water I do hope they are found soon. That at least would confirm what happened to a large extent.

That would still leave the police with difficult questions still to answer. Firstly trying to establish the manner of any suicide. Whether this was a jointly agreed course of action the sisters took or did one sister persuade/coerce/force the other to take part. That might be very difficult to find out.

Secondly establishing the underlying cause that made one or both to want to take their lives. I thought the police officer at the news conference was very upfront about everything. I didn't get the feeling he was holding much back although of course there may be things. At that stage they hadn't found any note or uncovered anything to suggest any reason for their disappearance. I've also noticed how relatively restrained our tabloid press has been with this story. We know in the UK how sensationalist and lurid our press can be, but there's been virtually no sign of this in this case. Possibly under instructions from the police? Its quite noticeable just how little hard information there is so far.

 

[MarziPanda]

But they're not quite as traceable or identifiable as cars, are they?
And a very small fibreglass fishing boat or even a RIB/dinghy could've been used.

I think the point there is more that there weren't any boats on the CCTV. With streets, you can go lots of different ways. With a river, you can only go up the river or down it. Whichever way a boat would have gone, it would have been seen on CCTV. That this hasn't been mentioned as a possibility by the police so I think it's unlikely anything was seen.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

While the Huszti family has understandably been hesitant to speak publicly due to the emotional toll of the situation, Krisztina revealed that they are receiving daily updates on the ongoing search efforts. ‘I think all of us believe that they are still alive,’ she said, highlighting the hope that continues to unite the family and the community.

Mystery Surrounds the Case of Missing Hungarian Twins in Scotland

Eliza and Henrietta Huszti were last seen on 7 January near the River Dee in the Scottish city of Aberdeen. Since their disappearance, police have been conducting extensive search efforts in the area, but leads remain scarce. Hungarian reporter Krisztina Vermes has also joined the search in an...

www.hungarianconservative.com

 

[Mandala]

I've also noticed how relatively restrained our tabloid press has been with this story. We know in the UK how sensationalist and lurid our press can be, but there's been virtually no sign of this in this case. Possibly under instructions from the police? Its quite noticeable just how little hard information there is so far.

Snipped for focus. In Australia, a missing person is usually mentioned in the media once or twice (unless it’s a young child). But if that missing person is then suspected to have taken their own life, it’s generally not mentioned in the media again out of respect for the person and their family.

 

[Skigh]

Snipped for focus. In Australia, a missing person is usually mentioned in the media once or twice (unless it’s a young child). But if that missing person is then suspected to have taken their own life, it’s generally not mentioned in the media again out of respect for the person and their family.

I think that this is probably the case here. The press will have been briefed by the police and will probably know more details than are known by the public.
There have also been other major stories to fill the headlines .

 

[Sarahlou]

I think that this is probably the case here. The press will have been briefed by the police and will probably know more details than are known by the public.
There have also been other major stories to fill the headlines .

Exactly. The press nearly always know more than the public. They hold back certain details.
There's just no need for them to keep reporting on a suspected suicide case.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Storms /winds are known to wash up the missing.

New Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire snow and ice warning issued amid Storm Éowyn

Forecasters are warning of further disruption on Saturday, January 25, with three warnings issued across Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire for snow, ice and strong winds.

www.aberdeenlive.news

 

[LittleSeaTree]

Yes I'm mindful we are talking about two people. If they are in the water I do hope they are found soon. That at least would confirm what happened to a large extent.

That would still leave the police with difficult questions still to answer. Firstly trying to establish the manner of any suicide. Whether this was a jointly agreed course of action the sisters took or did one sister persuade/coerce/force the other to take part. That might be very difficult to find out.

Secondly establishing the underlying cause that made one or both to want to take their lives. I thought the police officer at the news conference was very upfront about everything. I didn't get the feeling he was holding much back although of course there may be things. At that stage they hadn't found any note or uncovered anything to suggest any reason for their disappearance. I've also noticed how relatively restrained our tabloid press has been with this story. We know in the UK how sensationalist and lurid our press can be, but there's been virtually no sign of this in this case. Possibly under instructions from the police? It’s quite noticeable just how little hard information there is so far.

Wow, surprising and interesting-especially just throwing “twins” (or triplets) into the headline…

 

[LittleSeaTree]

I think that this is probably the case here. The press will have been briefed by the police and will probably know more details than are known by the public.
There have also been other major stories to fill the headlines .

Snipped for focus. In Australia, a missing person is usually mentioned in the media once or twice (unless it’s a young child). But if that missing person is then suspected to have taken their own life, it’s generally not mentioned in the media again out of respect for the person and their family.

Oh, gosh, that’s true.

 

[Highwayr]

No boat would have left the Harbour undetected and it wouldn’t be able to go the other way due to CCTV on the boat houses and further up the river at low ish tide, I’m unsure if a boat could get much further up the river, as it is unlike the section they went missing, rather shallow, further up than that there are houses close to the water, which despite the time would have mentioned being woken by a powered boat.

I mean sure someone could have paddle boarded or some sort of other human powered rowing boat to come get them but it would have been hard seeing the floating ice etc on the day.

If cctv worked like you think it does there'd be no crime. This isn't the movies.

Also esplanade/menzies must have had a huge crime spike in a year from practically no cameras to everyone having them. This needs to be confirmed by other locals.

 

[Doric Loon]

I wonder, which home owners heard nightly screams, probably by females, probably at the questionable time (otherwise I think, it wouldn't have been mentioned).

Well that’s another thing.. if the scream story is correct, you would for a short period have people looking out windows and checking. Making any chance of ‘escaping’ less likely, if they some how could avoid cameras. It must have been pretty loud and obvious for them to have been heard seeing the flats are not directly over looking the river and are at least the other side of the street, some waste land, the path and then say they were in the water then that far away, from that river. Plus windows would likely be closed seeing the weather.

So quite loud and would have made folk keep an eye for a period I would have thought. They would have surely reported seeing any strange vehicles or people walking about.

 

[Doric Loon]

If cctv worked like you think it does there'd be no crime. This isn't the movies.

Also esplanade/menzies must have had a huge crime spike in a year from practically no cameras to everyone having them. This needs to be confirmed by other locals.

What makes you think there was none a year ago? I agree CCTV doesn’t stop crime, it’s a deterrent to, but doesn’t stop, but it is great for picking up vehicles and people going by, especially if they are known to police, ie the sisters.

On one building near the waste land, some have theorised as being the area of potential escape, there are multiple wide angle top brand 4K cameras, only upgraded a year or two ago. Likely picked as they are one of the best CCTV cameras available, especially at night. Literally as high as a resolution as what is used in the ‘movies’.

Crime is fairly high in that area historically, hence why some businesses there have made such investments.