UK Eliza & Henrietta Huszti, sisters both 32, CCTV captures them near a river at 2am, Aberdeen, 7 Jan 2025.

[Binx26]

I’m curious as to what evidence the police have access to that makes them certain the two girls are in the water. Does anyone have a link for that info?

Local article from Northsound indicates they are focussing on the river area as they have ‘no evidence’ they left there. Assume that means there is no CCTV footage that has identified them after they are seen entering the path?

Link to article:

Police extend search of River Dee for missing sisters

Police in Aberdeen have extended their search of the River Dee as they...

hellorayo.co.uk

 

[ZeroAlpha]

Sadly, it seems that they both went into the River Dee. Police are now searching the coast.

Police will have more information than is made public. Perhaps they have got info from work colleagues or family members, perhaps a note was left behind and coupled with the fact they haven't been seen leaving the riverside they will be confident that they went into the river.

The family won't be telling the media about any issues that may have been going on, but they would have told the police any such matters.

It reminded me of the lady in Prestwick back in 2005.

Eliza and Henrietta Huszti: Search for sisters widens to coast

Relatives in Hungary urged people not to spread "unfounded rumours" about the disappearance of Eliza and Henrietta Huszti .

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[DSleuth]

I’m curious as to what evidence the police have access to that makes them certain the two girls are in the water. Does anyone have a link for that info?

I don’t have a link for any info. I don’t think there’s any evidence as such that they’ve gone into the water, just an absence of any evidence they went anywhere else.

I think if they’d left the footpath to go anywhere else other than in the water, CCTV footage either from the surrounding streets or businesses would have captured them.

I think the reason the police are now confident they’re in the water is because they’ve had time to review CCTV footage in the area and they’re not seen on any of it.

 

[iamshadow21]

The only way I'd be out that late on a weekday is if a good friend sent an sos and needed help.

Other possabilities could be to retrieve a lost item, ID, wallet. They were being blackmailed. Out buying drugs.

The handbag throws me off. It is big like something a solicitor would carry. Could they be informants???
TOL

I've never used a traditional handbag, always a mini backpack or messenger bag style. It's way more comfortable, roomier, and leaves your hands free.

I'm not an informant.

Some people just prefer that style of bag.

MOO

 

[MollyHarps]

All signs point to suicide - From what we know there was NO reason for them to be out at that time - it’s not like they were walking home from an evening out.

Not many criminals would take on two people. - especially not twins who would fight to the death for each other imo.

I’m guessing there’s CCTV going into that area.. and CCTV going out of it on the other side..


They went in and never came out imo

 

[TMich6811]

All signs point to suicide - From what we know there was NO reason for them to be out at that time - it’s not like they were walking home from an evening out.

Not many criminals would take on two people. - especially not twins who would fight to the death for each other imo.

I’m guessing there’s CCTV going into that area.. and CCTV going out of it on the other side..


They went in and never came out imo

I’m struggling with this because I feel like there are actually 0 details that point to suicide that have been released anyway

 

[Rosydecember]

Do most families who live far apart speak with each other more often? I live far from immediate family and easily go much longer without speaking to them. One consideration of many is differing time zones. I think they were reported missing relatively quickly.



I imagine they mean some of the speculation. Some of the ideas being mentioned here wouldn't exactly feel good for their family, and the truth is, there isn't enough evidence to really know anything.

How could they be back in Hungary; they surely would have contacted family? (And gone to an airport, not this river path...) IMO.

I just usually picture twins/triplets being more inseparable, that’s all. It may not be the case here. MOO

 

[TonnnnUK]

I’m struggling with this because I feel like there are actually 0 details that point to suicide that have been released anyway

Bit there's seemingly zero evidence that they either came back out from that path the way they came in, nor came out the other end by the boat club.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

The only way I'd be out that late on a weekday is if a good friend sent an sos and needed help.

Other possabilities could be to retrieve a lost item, ID, wallet. They were being blackmailed. Out buying drugs.

The handbag throws me off. It is big like something a solicitor would carry. Could they be informants???
TOL

That looks like a messenger bag to me. They're fairly common in the US. MOO

 

[Bigditch]

That looks like a messenger bag to me. They're fairly common in the US. MOO

Any guesses as to why only one of them is carrying a handbag?

 

[Kemug]

Could they have possibly taken a boat from the boat club, and rowed/sailed away?

 

[iamshadow21]

Could they have possibly taken a boat from the boat club, and rowed/sailed away?

I think a missing boat would have been noticed.

MOO

 

[Kemug]

I think a missing boat would have been noticed.

MOO

Probably.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

I've just read all this thread in one sitting. I have questions, many questions.

-Were these 2 women the only 2 in their family to live in Scotland? (Or even outside of Hungary maybe?)

-Were they so inseparable that where one lived, the other had to follow? (Suggests an unhealthy co-dependence.)

-What made them come to Scotland 7 years ago, aged 25? (Love interest, loved the location, fresh start, careers? Note, they both held current jobs, but not careers that would pull you away from your home country.)

-How good was their command of the English language? Reading, writing, comprehension? (Could a lack of English skills perhaps keep them somewhat isolated and misinterpret things?)

-Do we know their dating/living history, both in Scotland and Hungary? Have they been in Aberdeen since they arrived in Scotland? Have they ever lived apart, either in Scotland or Hungary? (By 32, you would assume that they would highly likely have had romantic interests. If there's a lack of this, that may suggest they were isolated and co-dependent)

-Who reported them missing, when were they reported missing, and when were they last seen/heard from by people in their lives? We know the last footage of them (released to the public anyway) was around 2.12am on Tuesday the 7th of January. Did one or both fail to turn up to work and it snowballed from there? Did family have concerns when they couldn't contact them? (The mother last spoke to them on the Saturday prior) Did neighbours have concerns?

-Why were they out at that time? (Especially considering they didn't seem to be wild or into partying - not that that's a certainty. Maybe they were different to what their families thought.) Are there any clubs/bars/establishments that were open, or recently closed, they could have left? (And would fit in the timeline). One of their Facebook pages shows a pic of them together at what looks like a club, holding matching drinks. I haven't been able to determine what the drinks are (they seem to show a MK label on a clear glass bottle with a murky drink inside) but maybe they did like to party and drink? (although they appear to be walking just fine in the CCTV)

-It appears they were walking away from their home - but what were they walking to? If they had walked from their home then the map TonnnnUK posted, shows the sisters roughly 30 minutes away. (If I'm reading that right) How much further was their destination? Was their destination a quiet area, away from CCTV, to either jump into the river, or to meet someone away from prying eyes, for whatever reason. Illegal, immoral, embarrassing, whatever.

-Do we know they type of cleaning one of them did? (Sorry, I'm not sure which sister) Whilst someone (?family member) said they aren't usually out late like this, could they have been going to a cleaning job? Maybe she picked up an extra shift and her sister tagged along for safety? Was she planning on entering a commercial building from that pathway? (In some cleaning jobs, at least where I'm from, the company doesn't really care what time you do it, so long as it's after hours and doesn't interfere with their business.) Heading to a cleaning job at 2am doesn't sound normal, but if there was a club that stayed open until say 2am and re-opened at 8am (gambling establishment, large entertainment complex etc) then that would require cleaning in odd hours.

-How much would a taxi/uber cost to this area from their home? Wherever they were going, would paid transport have been a better choice? They seem like quiet, responsible people who wouldn't take risks. Each to their own, but walking (even together in a pair) this late at night in a secluded area like this sounds risky to me, and best avoided.

-Nothing about their clothing seems odd. They appear dressed for a cold night in long pants, jackets, boots I think? They appear to be walking with purpose (even that's in unison), with one carrying a bag. The bag has been mentioned up thread, I don't think there's anything odd about it. (Except of course if they were going to end their lives - why take a bag?) I carry all my bags cross body like that. It makes it hands free, and doesn't fall off your shoulder if you move around too much. Up thread it's also been mentioned they may have things in their right hands. I don't think so, I think it's just really grainy footage. If anything in that photo looks odd, I think it's their faces. It's not great quality footage, but it almost appears like their faces have been blurred, or they're wearing something white over them.

I'm sure I have many more questions, but they're not front of mind right now.

All my personal thoughts and opinions only.


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[Warwick1991]

I've just read all this thread in one sitting. I have questions, many questions.

-Were these 2 women the only 2 in their family to live in Scotland? (Or even outside of Hungary maybe?)

-Were they so inseparable that where one lived, the other had to follow? (Suggests an unhealthy co-dependence.)

-What made them come to Scotland 7 years ago, aged 25? (Love interest, loved the location, fresh start, careers? Note, they both held current jobs, but not careers that would pull you away from your home country.)

-How good was their command of the English language? Reading, writing, comprehension? (Could a lack of English skills perhaps keep them somewhat isolated and misinterpret things?)

-Do we know their dating/living history, both in Scotland and Hungary? Have they been in Aberdeen since they arrived in Scotland? Have they ever lived apart, either in Scotland or Hungary? (By 32, you would assume that they would highly likely have had romantic interests. If there's a lack of this, that may suggest they were isolated and co-dependent)

-Who reported them missing, when were they reported missing, and when were they last seen/heard from by people in their lives? We know the last footage of them (released to the public anyway) was around 2.12am on Tuesday the 7th of January. Did one or both fail to turn up to work and it snowballed from there? Did family have concerns when they couldn't contact them? (The mother last spoke to them on the Saturday prior) Did neighbours have concerns?

-Why were they out at that time? (Especially considering they didn't seem to be wild or into partying - not that that's a certainty. Maybe they were different to what their families thought.) Are there any clubs/bars/establishments that were open, or recently closed, they could have left? (And would fit in the timeline). One of their Facebook pages shows a pic of them together at what looks like a club, holding matching drinks. I haven't been able to determine what the drinks are (they seem to show a MK label on a clear glass bottle with a murky drink inside) but maybe they did like to party and drink? (although they appear to be walking just fine in the CCTV)

-It appears they were walking away from their home - but what were they walking to? If they had walked from their home then the map TonnnnUK posted, shows the sisters roughly 30 minutes away. (If I'm reading that right) How much further was their destination? Was their destination a quiet area, away from CCTV, to either jump into the river, or to meet someone away from prying eyes, for whatever reason. Illegal, immoral, embarrassing, whatever.

-Do we know they type of cleaning one of them did? (Sorry, I'm not sure which sister) Whilst someone (?family member) said they aren't usually out late like this, could they have been going to a cleaning job? Maybe she picked up an extra shift and her sister tagged along for safety? Was she planning on entering a commercial building from that pathway? (In some cleaning jobs, at least where I'm from, the company doesn't really care what time you do it, so long as it's after hours and doesn't interfere with their business.) Heading to a cleaning job at 2am doesn't sound normal, but if there was a club that stayed open until say 2am and re-opened at 8am (gambling establishment, large entertainment complex etc) then that would require cleaning in odd hours.

-How much would a taxi/uber cost to this area from their home? Wherever they were going, would paid transport have been a better choice? They seem like quiet, responsible people who wouldn't take risks. Each to their own, but walking (even together in a pair) this late at night in a secluded area like this sounds risky to me, and best avoided.

-Nothing about their clothing seems odd. They appear dressed for a cold night in long pants, jackets, boots I think? They appear to be walking with purpose (even that's in unison), with one carrying a bag. The bag has been mentioned up thread, I don't think there's anything odd about it. (Except of course if they were going to end their lives - why take a bag?) I carry all my bags cross body like that. It makes it hands free, and doesn't fall off your shoulder if you move around too much. Up thread it's also been mentioned they may have things in their right hands. I don't think so, I think it's just really grainy footage. If anything in that photo looks odd, I think it's their faces. It's not great quality footage, but it almost appears like their faces have been blurred, or they're wearing something white over them.

I'm sure I have many more questions, but they're not front of mind right now.

All my personal thoughts and opinions only.

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Excellent post... I have many of the same questions.

My thoughts are wandering towards their experiences as immigrants. This can be extremely difficult, especially if a new language must be learned. Perhaps they were well educated and are/were disillusioned from working at jobs that not only pay poorly but lack intellectual stimulation. We don't know much about their backgrounds. Perhaps they could have returned to Hungary if they found their circumstances unacceptable; we don't know if that was possible. Hungary is a NATO and EU country, and is not, say, a strife-ridden failing state.

There are a lot of mysteries here.

 

[HoneyBunOne]

Excellent post... I have many of the same questions.

My thoughts are wandering towards their experiences as immigrants. This can be extremely difficult, especially if a new language must be learned. Perhaps they were well educated and are/were disillusioned from working at jobs that not only pay poorly but lack intellectual stimulation. We don't know much about their backgrounds. Perhaps they could have returned to Hungary if they found their circumstances unacceptable; we don't know if that was possible. Hungary is a NATO and EU country, and is not, say, a strife-ridden failing state.

There are a lot of mysteries here.

I agree with you. We have no knowledge of their earlier life, whether they were high school or university graduates, and what jobs, if any, they held before moving. Working in a coffee shop and cleaning are both jobs that can be considered ones that don't require a degree or any level of education, and perhaps minimal English skills. Google tells me English is fairly widely spoken in Hungary, more so in the younger generation, and by those in cities and not more remote areas. Did they save the money themselves for this big life move? Did family help them? Did they come over to Scotland with minimal money? Were they able to get any form of government funding? Were they living an average life, in poverty, or well off?

Do we know if they had become citizens? Permanent residents? There on student visas? (Is that even possible after 7 years?) The jobs they held could quite likely be worked around an education. Were they full time jobs?

Perhaps part of their quiet lifestyle is that they found it hard to integrate. Kept to themselves as it seems they were almost all they needed. There is a Hungarian Society of Aberdeen, so maybe they felt that area suited them more. I do wonder where the third triplet comes into all this, and why she doesn't seem to be anywhere near as close to her sisters as they are to each other.

 

[Sillybilly]

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Here is a pic from the news today of officers searching the path. As you can see, the river is accessible from both sides. The bridge they crossed is visible in the background.

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[Kemug]

I find it quite strange that they seem to be walking along so quickly and purposefully. It doesn't seem (at least to me) to match with people about to end their lives. An alternative reason might be that they were walking quickly to keep warm - but if you're about to end your life in an almost freezing river, why would you bother? The quick and purposeful walking to me seems
that it should mean an appointment to keep, a certain place to be by a certain time. Yes, it was dark and late and cold, but not impossible you would think. But I don't think for a cleaning job, we would know that by now. So something private. And maybe illegal. Who knows? I certainly don't.

 

[detective.moon]

if there was anyone else there (already waiting for them or arriving after they were already there), that person would have been caught on cctv, wouldn’t they? or is that not 100% certain?

for now i’m leaning towards no one else being involved, but you never know

 

[HoneyBunOne]

But I don't think for a cleaning job, we would know that by now.

Snipped by me.
I'm not so sure.
There seems to be little known about this case, and the women. Nobody seems to have come forward to any of the members of the press to say anything about them really, which suggests an almost hermit like life. You'd think by now we'd know the last person to have seen them, their state of mind, etc. I'm sure the press would have knocked on neighbours doors, gone to their places of employment etc and gotten so-and-so to open up and say "they were quiet neighbours", "they appeared odd", "they never had visitors", "she was quiet but a good worker" etc. That simply hasn't happened as far as I can tell.

EDIT - Yes, we've heard from the other triplet, their brother and the mother. All in Hungary AFAIK. We have not heard anything at all (I believe) about their character, their movements etc from anyone in Scotland.