Is Terri's arrest imminent?

[kappy50]

I guess Mr.Jensen didn't realize that the last day of school was June 15th.

 

[scotslass]

I guess Mr.Jensen didn't realize that the last day of school was June 15th.

apparently it was Bruce McCain, former captain of the Multnomah County Sheriff's office that made those comments.

 

[Haeve]

Oops, I posted/ranted about this story on the "timeline" thread, as I thought the confusion about the last day of school was the most significant part of that story (we'd already heard speculation that TH's arrest may be "imminent"). Mods feel free to move my post.

 

[kappy50]

apparently it was Bruce McCain, former captain of the Multnomah County Sheriff's office that made those comments.

oops...you are so right. guess I need to get mr.sandman out of my eyes!

 

[scotslass]

oops...you are so right. guess I need to get mr.sandman out of my eyes!

nah i just think they need to write an article people can follow and who knows lets say ACCURATE...lol

 

[ThoughtFox]

It's almost as if they are confusing "last day of school" with "Kyron's last day of school" and the "last day of the week."

I guess it will be clarified in time.

From the same article:
After getting thousands of tips, the investigation into missing 7-year-old Kyron Hormon appears to have gone full circle, and now an arrest could be right around the corner
I hope this is true.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6713605.shtml

Pretty dang interesting!!!

 

[angelmom]

From the same article:
After getting thousands of tips, the investigation into missing 7-year-old Kyron Hormon appears to have gone full circle, and now an arrest could be right around the corner
I hope this is true.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/26/earlyshow/main6713605.shtml

Hard to take this seriously when their timeline is so obviously wrong and leads to his theory of premeditation:

But McCain said there seems to be some sort of premeditated plan at work here.

"Especially with the deceptive answers she gave later about, 'Gee, I think I meant June 11th,' which is long after school is out. The key is going back, refocusing and reconstructing every hour and minute she spent on that fateful June 4th to find out exactly where the holes are in her original story."

 

[tehcloser]

I'm going out on a limb here and predicting an arrest within 24 hours........

 

[cypress]

Unless one of the friends knows something, and I'm still on the fence about whether or not any of the friends know anything, but if they do and crack, then maybe. Otherwise, I don't believe an arrest is possible unless they find Kyron, and even then, it might be difficult unless there is overwhelming physical evidence that Terri was directly involved. IMHO, finding his body won't be enough. They'll have to find something with his body such as a container, blanket, tape, if there's a GSW a specific type of bullet that is traceable to a Horman family owned gun, that links the murder to Terri and no one but Terri.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I'm going out on a limb here and predicting an arrest within 24 hours........

I'll support you on that limb because I'm getting antsy and feel that it is time for a major breakthrough in this case. I have wondered since last week when the July 27 press conference was announced if an arrest and/or charges might be forthcoming today or tomorrow before LE speaks to the media. I realize that it's wishful thinking, but I'd like to feel hopeful instead of continually frustrated. jmo

 

[Emeralgem]

I'll support you on that limb because I'm getting antsy and feel that it is time for a major breakthrough in this case. I have wondered since last week when the July 27 press conference was announced if an arrest and/or charges might be forthcoming today or tomorrow before LE speaks to the media. I realize that it's wishful thinking, but I'd like to feel hopeful instead of continually frustrated. jmo

Hopefully that limb is strong since I'm climbing out there too..Worst case scenario it won't hold and we will all fall..JMO

 

[seeking truth]

Hard to take this seriously when their timeline is so obviously wrong and leads to his theory of premeditation:

But McCain said there seems to be some sort of premeditated plan at work here.

"Especially with the deceptive answers she gave later about, 'Gee, I think I meant June 11th,' which is long after school is out. The key is going back, refocusing and reconstructing every hour and minute she spent on that fateful June 4th to find out exactly where the holes are in her original story."

Still, the article is very informative, despite the mistake, or the confusion about when the last day of school was for the Skyline students.

I think the timeline that is important is the timeline of the day Kyron disappeared; June 4, 2010. I completely agree with former officer McCain:

"The key is going back, refocusing and reconstructing every hour and minute she spent on that fateful June 4th to find out exactly where the holes are in her original story."


If it's broken down to it's most basic parts, where Terri was and what she was doing between the time she was last seen by anyone at Skyline School and when she followed Kaine down to the bus that afternoon is what needs to be nailed down.

I feel confident that investigators have an even smaller time period they are concentrating on and I believe that they have Terri nailed in Kyron's probable death that day.

These are my thoughts and opinions.

 

[Calliope]

I have to respectfully disagree about the deal. LE has no evidence of a murder. They have no evidence Kyron is deceased. None. That's a compelling lack of evidence. Why would she make a deal about the abduction, thereby implicating herself in a murder for which LE admits they have no evidence?

I also disagree about the MFH plot. I think an arrest for the MFH plot depended upon information obtained in the sting. Obviously, that didn't end in LE's favor.

I'm not sure what the press conference is about, but it's been planned for a while. I don't think they'd toe their shoes in the dust waiting to arrest someone for this crime, considering the toll it's taking on the community in every imaginable way, if they had compelling evidence. It makes more sense to me that they'd arrest her and then schedule a press conference, not vice versa.

I truly believe LE has very, very little evidence against Terri. I'm sure there's more than we know about, but I don't think it would stand up in court, not by a long shot, which is why she's still free.

I think I wasn't getting my point across lol

I meant to say if what LE has on Terri (for anything, really) is no more than what we've seen and what "sources" have brought forward, then I think he'll just sit back and force them to prove their case. But if he believes they DO have information (that we obviously don't have), he may be making some sort of deal.

Did that make sense?

I agree about the MFH; I just threw that out there because it is a possibility, just IMO not probable.

And FWIW, I agree that they probably have very little evidence against her.

 

[cypress]

I think I wasn't getting my point across lol

I meant to say if what LE has on Terri (for anything, really) is no more than what we've seen and what "sources" have brought forward, then I think he'll just sit back and force them to prove their case. But if he believes they DO have information (that we obviously don't have), he may be making some sort of deal.

Did that make sense?

I agree about the MFH; I just threw that out there because it is a possibility, just IMO not probable.

And FWIW, I agree that they probably have very little evidence against her.

Ah, okay. I understand what you're saying. And, yes, I agree, if anything has changed with regard to LE finding forensic evidence that proves a death occurred, I think he would work on a deal and strongly advise Terri to take it.

I just don't think that's what's going on. I missed some of the news from the last week because I was on a break, and I've been trying to catch up, but have Desiree and/or Kaine continued to assert Kyron is alive? Their assertion that he's alive negates, IMHO, that much has changed on the evidence front.

Unless evidence of Kyron's death surfaces (and that evidence directly implicates Terri), I don't think there will be an arrest, and I think Houze will take a wait and see approach.

Honestly, I have a feeling LE will answer a few questions, give the public a general idea of what's going on from an investigative standpoint, and let the community know that resources have been exhausted to find this child but that LE remains committed.

 

[Calliope]

Ah, okay. I understand what you're saying. And, yes, I agree, if anything has changed with regard to LE finding forensic evidence that proves a death occurred, I think he would work on a deal and strongly advise Terri to take it.

I just don't think that's what's going on. I missed some of the news from the last week because I was on a break, and I've been trying to catch up, but have Desiree and/or Kaine continued to assert Kyron is alive? Their assertion that he's alive negates, IMHO, that much has changed on the evidence front.

Unless evidence of Kyron's death surfaces (and that evidence directly implicates Terri), I don't think there will be an arrest, and I think Houze will take a wait and see approach.

Honestly, I have a feeling LE will answer a few questions, give the public a general idea of what's going on from an investigative standpoint, and let the community know that resources have been exhausted to find this child but that LE remains committed.

Whoa. You took a heck of a week to be off LOL

I think they are still saying he's alive, but sadly it's beginning to sound more like hope rather than something they're hearing from LE. And that's another angle Terri's attorney can use to her advantage--- all the statements made by D/K/T, reports by "witnesses" and friends that may not match their official version told to LE. The more I think on it, the more I lean toward Houze just sitting tight for now. I think it all depends on what LE has found, of course.

 

[LandAuxvasse]

Honestly, I have a feeling LE will answer a few questions, give the public a general idea of what's going on from an investigative standpoint, and let the community know that resources have been exhausted to find this child but that LE remains committed.

Respectfully snipped by me
As sad as this is, I agree. I think LE's tactics have failed to bring forth the evidence they've been hoping for and this will be an unsolved case for quite some time.

My prayers go out to Kyron's loved ones who are missing him so badly!

 

[LadyL]

Lying to LE has several bad, bad consequences. First, LE starts to wonder why the person is lying--and there's never a good answer to that because most people lie when they can't tolerate the consequences of the truth. Then, once the lies have put the person on LE's radar screen, LE starts to dig into other areas they might not have thought about before (i.e., "What ELSE are you hiding, covering up, lying about??"). Finally, the prosecutor can roast the person (now defendent) slowly over the fire, recounting lie after lie, so that the jury wouldn't believe him or her if 10 holy angels backed up the testimony. Casey Anthony, after all, is despised not just because she killed her precious child, but because she lied to continue her party life without Cayley, because her lies led LE and the community on an excruciating search for Cayley, and because with the truth absolutely evident even to the squirrels in the trees, she has never stopped lying. She, like Susan Smith, is the poster girl for murderous mothers, not just because she killed her child, but because her lies did so much damage to the community who cared more about her child than she did.

The political equivalent: the cover-up is always worse than the crime. For example, if Casey had worked out a plea deal, confessed to killing Cayley, told where to find the body, she was still looking at life in prison but she might have had a chance at parole in her old age and her family wouldn't be utterly destroyed financially and emotionally. If TH's lies are not related to Kyron's disappearance, they are destroying her life anyway. If they are, she's lying herself into a small "club" of women who told themselves the biggest lie of all--that they could fool LE, their families, and the community.

fantastic summary!

:clap:

 

[grandmaj]

Can someone explain why we feel it is appropriate to discuss rumors? If you can't link you cannot discuss. Fix your posts please. By even posting it here you are spreading rumors even further.

Post lands at random.

 

[Leila]

From the same article:
After getting thousands of tips, the investigation into missing 7-year-old Kyron Hormon appears to have gone full circle, and now an arrest could be right around the corner
I hope this is true.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/26/earlyshow/main6713605.shtml

I read the article and thought that there was an element of confidence about it......that LE has put together a lot of the pieces of the puzzle, have a pretty clear picture of what happened, and are just waiting for the last few puzzle pieces to be in place before making an arrest.

I think and arrest could be made soon, possibly this week.

 

[BeanE]

Here's the only thing I think they could possibly arrest/charge Terri for right now, but I really don't see how they could prove she was the one took Kyron from the school.

163.257¹
Custodial interference in the first degree

(1) A person commits the crime of custodial interference in the first degree if the person violates ORS 163.245 (Custodial interference in the second degree) and:
(a) Causes the person taken, enticed or kept from the lawful custodian or in violation of a valid joint custody order to be removed from the state; or
(b) Exposes that person to a substantial risk of illness or physical injury.

(2) Expenses incurred by a lawful custodial parent or a parent enforcing a valid joint custody order in locating and regaining physical custody of the person taken, enticed or kept in violation of this section are "economic damages" for purposes of restitution under ORS 137.103 (Definitions for ORS 137.101 to 137.109) to 137.109 (Effect of restitution order on other remedies of victim).

(3) Custodial interference in the first degree is a Class B felony. [1971 c.743 §101; 1981 c.774 §2; 1987 c.795 §8; 2005 c.564 §7]

https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/163.257


*Maybe* they came up with somebody who saw Kyron leaving the school since this, and *maybe* they came up with a way to show that leaving was somehow connected to Terri:

"The last time this child was seen was inside the school and was never seen leaving the school," Staton told CNN.

June 11, LE, Staton

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/11/oregon.missing.boy/index.html?section=cnn_latest