Kyron's parents' statements, interviews

[Snowball58]

Still reading through this thread, but couple quick thoughts:

- My daughter is 5 and she doesn't get out of bed until we come to get her. Not because this is anything we ever imposed on her - it's just her preference. I can see her continuing to do this still, even when she's older. She's slow to wake, but we hear her on the monitor, so when she begins to stir we go in, open the drapes, etc. to help her get moving.

- I can imagine confusion about the talent show if, for example, Terry typically handled all the school stuff? So maybe the school communicated the talent show info through stepmom (she was very involved in the school) and she didn't pass it along, or perhaps Kyron was not sure if he wanted to do it or not (since he's shy), so there was some ambiguity about him appearing in the show. Maybe Kyron didn't want to do it, so the family didn't have the show on their radar.

For example, for almost the entire school year our daughter was too shy to participate on her share day (show and tell) so we never kept track of her scheduled day, not until she decided she would participate. It just wasn't on our radar. If she happened to go missing on her share day, the school might show her as scheduled for show and tell, but we wouldn't really know or have anything planned for it. Perhaps the play it's just not relevant so the family hasn't focused on it? SIGH. I don't know. Strange that 3 weeks later they don't have an explanation though.

 

[Nana46]

The kgw.com video simply will not open up for me....does anyone know if it has been removed???? TIA

 

[Donjeta]

http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Raw-Kyrons-parents-full-interview-97177194.html

This link works for me right now.

The talent show confusion makes me wonder if they've talked with the teachers at all. Somebody at the school has to know if Kyron was supposed to be there or not.

 

[miabellamoure]

I thought it was odd, too. Then I remembered when Son #1 was born on a Sunday, 13 weeks early, 2 lbs. On Monday, my husband and I were required to attend a death conference. There were 8 doctors and nurses at the conference table besides us. We were told Son #1 would be dead within a couple of days because he had had a massive pulmonary hemorrhage.

I refused to believe it. It was beyond my comprehension that God would take one of my babies away (he is a triplet). I prayed. At night, alone in my hospital room, I would get very upset but tried to talk myself out of that. I told everyone who talked to me that he would live. The doctors sent a social worker to talk to me because they wanted me to face facts. I was terrified to believe otherwise.

On Thursday, another death conference. I said he had lived beyond the two days and the doctors said he would be dead by Saturday because he had made no improvement.

On Saturday, he turned the corner, and the doctors and nurses kept saying it was a miracle. I agreed, because I knew the facts about his condition and its prognosis. Today he is 16 years old and in perfect health.

I don't know Desiree, but I bet she is thinking the same way I did. I was fully aware that my son might die, but I thought if I succumbed to that fear, he would. It was as though I thought my own faith and strength would keep him alive.

It isn't logical, but it isn't denial either. I've wondered since then what would have happened to me if my son had died -- there was nothing any more special about him or me than there was about one of the babies and their mothers in the neonatal ICU who did die.

I think Desiree is trying her hardest to have faith that Kyron will come home alive and unharmed. She has fear, but she tries to push it away. She is the voice of hope and love and will not succumb to fear or allow anyone else to do so in her presence. She isn't starting to get scared -- she is terrified, but refuses to let that overtake her, and she is determined to remain strong and have faith that her son will be restored to her.

Great post on keeping your strength going when everywhere around you is possible doom...I really think we will see in the process of Kyron being found that Desiree is going to be a force to be reckoned with.

 

[matou]

The kgw.com video simply will not open up for me....does anyone know if it has been removed???? TIA

The link works but the video does not start for me either.

 

[natsound]

I could not hear the interview too well, but at some point in the interview, Kaine stated (not a quote) something about he was there with SM when they went to the bus stop in the afternoon. I think I also heard him say something about working at home at about noon. I was just wondering if Terri went home after leaving the school, or did she return home before Kaine came home from work, or did she return home after Kaine returned home? I was just wondering because I could not hear too well on my laptop. Just curious if this question was asked or answered in the interview.

Maui, I don't think that question was answered.

 

[Nana46]

The link works but the video does not start for me either.

Me either, just tried it again....I found one on another site altho it was a short video...strange that it won't load at all...never had this problem with any other videos. Thanks!!

 

[natsound]

I makes me wonder if what Terri's friend said was true. That Terri wanted her to speak for her. When asked on national TV last weekend, the friend confirmed she was there with Terry's endorsement. I believe that she spoke the truth about that, or someone in Terri's camp would have come out against her, especially because, as I see it, she damaged Terri.

I think that Kaine is also referring to the articles written about all of their pasts and that it was Terri, her family, and friends, who did this. I see what he is saying as a definite distancing of himself (and Desiree) from his wife.

In yesterday's long, raw interview that you are referring to, and quote from above, I think Kaine was diplomatically trying to say that Terri's family and friends don't speak for them; them being Kyron's natural parents, nor for Kyron.


This is what I took away from it.

MY OPINION>

And for what it's worth, Meredith Vieira presented a question that began by her saying "Terri has now taken two polygraphs". Neither parent denied it, or said they're not sure if it's true.

 

[BeanE]

Morning BeanE,

Your posts always get me thinking. I see what Desiree said, and how she worded it, in a different light than you do. (Where is the cartoon of the big elephant when we need it!).

The whole "dropping Kyron off," statement, when anyone says it; mostly reporters, since we haven't really heard family until yesterday, and they were not using that simple phrase, even though it was LE spokespeople speaking for them. WHY have Terri's detailed movements morphed into simply dropping this little boy off at school? Remember in the beginning how her story was so involved that there were endless possibilities and scenarios while Terri was in the school with Kyron? They were discussed in the media, they were hashed out and discussed right here. Who saw Kyron and Terri, what time, where, how long was she in the school? So different than just dropping Kyron off at school.

When, a couple of weeks ago (or so) the articles began saying that the "step-mom dropped Kyron off," it changed the whole color of this case, in my opinion. There is, in my mind, a huge difference between drooping your child off at school AS OPPOSED TO parking and going into the school with your child, touring around, taking pictures, and then saying good-bye to him near his classroom when it is near time for him to be in class.

As for Desiree saying that she knows one thing for sure: Terri dropped Kyron off at school that morning, I took away from it that Desiree sees this woman as the last person to be with her son, the last adult to be RESPONSIBLE FOR KYRON'S WELL-BEING. She may be using the phrase that has become the easiest and most common when speaking of that morning, but Desiree knows what LE has proclaimed to the world:

* Terri was the last person to see Kyron

* Terri was the last person to see Kyron alive.

I believe that Desiree knows that Terri is responsible for whatever has befallen Kyron.

My opinion and belief.

Hi seeking. I always enjoy your posts - you get me thinking too.

- 'dropping off' - don't forget Kaine's email from early on.

He was dropped off at school
http://ackerlaw.com/posts/2010/06/07/missing_child__kyron_horman_7

- 'what LE has proclaimed to the world' - 'Terri was the last person to see Kyron alive.'

LE never said 'alive'. This was posted in WS early on, incorrectly reported in a couple articles, e.g., by MSNBC, and continues to pop up from time to time for some reason. I posted in the Q&A thread with transcriptions from the press conference of each time LE mentioned that. They never said 'alive'.

If you (or anyone) believes they did say 'alive', please provide the time in the press conference video when they did, so I can listen to it too.

Here is the full raw video of the press conference on June 18, including the full question and answer session:
http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Briefing-on-new-Kyron-flier-with-stepmom-96685544.html

snip

I transcribed where Gates talks about this. I found three places. Here they are:

-6:42 Terri is the last known person to have seen Kyron before he disappeared.

-2:20 We're hoping that because she was here at the time that Kyron disappeared and with him and I mean it's naturally she'd be with him, she brought him to school

-1:40 She's associated with the case because she was, you know, the last person to see Kyron.

 

[natsound]

In one of the interviews, when asked if they had searched her home, the statement by DY was firm in stating that "they don't have a reason to." I took this to mean that they really do have their poi.

Just sayin...

If you think about it, if they didn't have their poi, they would be looking there too. Right?

It's not in the Fox interview either. Are you sure that's what you heard? I'd really like to see and hear that.

 

[BeanE]

It's not in the Fox interview either. Are you sure that's what you heard? I'd really like to see and hear that.

It wasn't exactly what Desiree said.

From KPTV's transcript. Link to video on the same page as link below.

Reporter: Detectives have told us many times that in this case they're leaving no stone unturned. Have they searched your homes, your cars and your property?

Desiree Young: They haven't needed to search our house as of yet. But they're welcome to. Anything that they need to do, we're definitely letting them do.

http://www.kptv.com/news/24037975/detail.html

 

[ClueMeIn]

Yes, that was it. I was going off memory.

 

[ClueMeIn]

That being said, obviously everyone gleans something different from what is said. Thus so many varying opinions.

 

[kgeaux]

(not verbatim) - When asked by the reporter if it's true what TH's friend said about having had 2 polygraph's KH replies that the friend is speaking on behalf of TH and it is not coming from the family. He says he wants to make it clear that what will come from the family will only come from the family and those are the only group of people who would be speaking on their behalf. It made me feel like he was saying TH was not among that group, as if her behalf and their behalf are seperate?

snipped a little.....I really understood this quite differently. (I love how varied our minds and emotions are, don't you? :blowkiss I took his statement to mean that the friend spoke out on SM's behalf ON HER OWN. That she was not speaking for any member of their family, and that people should only give credence to what a family member says.

As an example: in another forum, I spoke in behalf of my sister. Someone asked a question, Sis is out of pocket right now, so I jumped in and provided an answer. Sis didn't ask me to do this, I just answered on her behalf. When Sis returns, she may answer differently.

BBM
Am I the only person who finds this odd? I have never heard of a 7 year old who didn't get out of bed until given permission, except maybe for children with exceedingly controlling parents. Odd.

My oldest son quite often was reluctant to begin his day. He physically looked like Kyron, and I have to watch myself not to interpret Kyron by my son's actions! But here goes: my son would get out of his bed, put his glasses on and grab a book from the bookshelf. He'd sit in that bed and read until I told him to get up, get dressed, come have breakfast!

Some children are just so compliant and so happy to begin their day quietly. I don't know how Kyron felt, but I didn't get the impression that he stayed sitting on his bed because he was scared of his parents.

You have to be very careful constructing questionnaires if you don't want people to make their own interpretations. IMO LE shouldn't have mentioned that TH drove a truck like that if they just wanted them to have generic thoughts about any old Ford trucks. But IMO they probably didn't since the stated reasoning including Terri and the truck on the flier was to jog people's memory with the things that were known to be associated with Kyron that morning.

The questionnaire came out well after the public was aware of the truck owned by Kyron's parents. It had already been noted in the media that a neighbor saw a white truck, and the family had a white truck. It had been publicized when the family's truck was towed.

I think if LE had failed to mention the connection between the truck pictured with the questionnaire and the family, it would have been odd, to say the least. Just a long winded way of saying I agree with you!

In one of the interviews, when asked if they had searched her home, the statement by DY was firm in stating that "they don't have a reason to." I took this to mean that they really do have their poi.

Just sayin...

If you think about it, if they didn't have their poi, they would be looking there too. Right?

Mom lives HOURS away. SHE was hours away when her son went missing. Her husband was hours away when Kyron disappeared. There really IS no reason for LE to search her home! As long as she is willing to allow a search if LE ever decides they need to look there, it's not a biggie to me!

I believe LE is working diligently to be able to settle on a POI, they have surely made some sort of progress in this area, at least I pray so! But I don't know if I believe they actually have a firm POI in mind yet. I hope they do.

 

[seeking truth]

Hi seeking. I always enjoy your posts - you get me thinking too.

- 'dropping off' - don't forget Kaine's email from early on.

He was dropped off at school
http://ackerlaw.com/posts/2010/06/07/missing_child__kyron_horman_7

- 'what LE has proclaimed to the world' - 'Terri was the last person to see Kyron alive.'

LE never said 'alive'. This was posted in WS early on, incorrectly reported in a couple articles, e.g., by MSNBC, and continues to pop up from time to time for some reason. I posted in the Q&A thread with transcriptions from the press conference of each time LE mentioned that. They never said 'alive'.

If you (or anyone) believes they did say 'alive', please provide the time in the press conference video when they did, so I can listen to it too.

BeanE, thanks so much for the kind reply.

I DID forget that Kaine wrote this in the early email.

I didn't realize that the "ALIVE" was in question: So many threads and I thought it was settled that people heard this. I know I did.

Then, when The Huffington Post article speaking to this was used here a WS, I just assumed it was common knowledge. Could it be that, once the press conference was transcribed, the LE's last statement, or the last word (alive) was left off? I immediately got the impression that the officer deeply regretted saying "alive."

I will look for the link to the Skyline School presser, the day they spoke to the flyer going out and named Terri as the last person to see Kyron.

 

[Quiche]

What do you make of the pumpkin patch comment?
Kaine said something to the effect that Sauvie Island was searched because it is a favorite place for the family to to visit and the school went there for field trips.

Does it indicate that someone in the family or at the school is the POI? I imagine it would be largely irrelevant for a random stranger where the family gets their pumpkins. Suppose the perp could be someone on SI who saw Kyron when the school was on a field trip.

It made me wonder if any of the Sauvie Island Farms had a produce arrangement with Skyline-- delivering to the school that day. :waitasec:

 

[seeking truth]

http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Raw-Kyrons-parents-full-interview-97177194.html

This link works for me right now.

The talent show confusion makes me wonder if they've talked with the teachers at all. Somebody at the school has to know if Kyron was supposed to be there or not.

Hi, Donjeta.

I'm wondering if this is such an important part of the case that Kaine and Desiree were asked not to speak to this.

It could show that Terri kept this information away from Kaine, and would be very important in establishing Terri's motives and movements that day, in my opinion.

 

[BeanE]

BeanE, thanks so much for the kind reply.

I DID forget that Kaine wrote this in the early email.

I didn't realize that the "ALIVE" was in question: So many threads and I thought it was settled that people heard this. I know I did.

Then, when The Huffington Post article speaking to this was used here a WS, I just assumed it was common knowledge. Could it be that, once the press conference was transcribed, the LE's last statement, or the last word (alive) was left off? I immediately got the impression that the officer deeply regretted saying "alive."

I will look for the link to the Skyline School presser, the day they spoke to the flyer going out and named Terri as the last person to see Kyron.

Hi seeking. I gave you the link to the presser in my post to which you responded. Here it is again. I would appreciate it if you would take a few minutes to listen, note the approx time in the video at which you hear LE say 'alive', and post the time for me so I can hear it too.

http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Briefing-on-new-Kyron-flier-with-stepmom-96685544.html

After my post this morning, just for the heck of it, I listened again. He never says 'alive'.

 

[GrainneDhu]

BBM
Am I the only person who finds this odd? I have never heard of a 7 year old who didn't get out of bed until given permission, except maybe for children with exceedingly controlling parents. Odd.

I was that 7 year old and I can say with the perspective of over 40 more years that my parents were not excessively controlling.

I liked being awake when no one else knew I was awake, I loved reading and it was my chance to read without anyone interrupting me.

Plus, my mama was no fool. She didn't require that I stay in bed until she came to get me in the morning but she made sure to give me lots of praise for doing so. Her morning routine was a little easier with one of her three kids safely parked, so she made sure I knew how much she appreciated it.

It was part of my morning ritual. I had my quiet reading time, then my mom would come in to tell me it was time to get up. And she always said something like "oh, you're such a good girl to wait here."

At seven, I wanted more than anything to be a good girl. When I was ten years older? I look back on my teenage self and am sure my parents wondered "what happened to our sweet, cooperative little girl?" LOL!

That part of the interviews made tears come to my eyes.

 

[winterrose]

Something Kaine said keeps popping in my mind about Kyron having problems following directions and listening,etc.Kaine said they've worked very hard with him on this.I'm wondering how strict they were on him in this,it sounded as if there were disciple issues and how did they work with him on it?Did he do something while in the classroom after the photo was taken of his exhibit that the SM took him out to talk to him about and correct him?

Zimmerman said the last she saw them was at 8:15 after the photo was taken.The stepmom said she left him in the hall at 8:45,but how could this be when the kids were being seperated by 4 to 5 kids from the classroom?So where would they be in that half an hour,if not being part of the class divided up?