Michelle Young: Pregnant Mom murdered NC part 9

[close_enough]

You're right, we don't know exactly when he left home ~ which of course would make a big difference how far away he could've been when he called at 11pm or during the time range for the TOD. I haven't had time to search, but is there a "Hampton Hotel" anywhere? (Sorry if it's already been posted and I overlooked it!)

there's all kinds of Hampton Hotels in Hampton VA, which is 3 & half hours from Raleigh....

 

[5bigfish5]

Yes, even carrying one can would emit the odor of gasoline in a closed vehicle.

Not to mention the possibility of them sloshing over.

IMO, he got rid of whatever he had, VERY close to home. Paid cash for gas the rest of the way and thinks he is Scott free.

We shall see.

 

[chicoliving]

About the game and the weekend that wasn't......maybe if that game and weekend had happened secrets would have been revealed. What if the murder had to happen to prevent that game/weekend from happening?? Sorry, just had to put it out there after thinking of all the crazy reasons people kill. :blushing:

 

[panthera]

All interesting comments this morning. It was like the Close & Raisin Show as the rest of us were all still counting sheep~!

After reading everything, I think Michelle and Jason's problems started mounting 3 mos before she died, and culminated in the last few weeks of great dissention between them. They probably screamed at each other a lot in the last few days, and I think she told him to pack his bags and get out of their house she didn't love him anymore. And that she had started getting things in order to file for a divorce.

That last afternoon in the house I think JY packed his most needy things into 2 or 3 suitcases, like a wounded pup, and left before M's friend arrived. I think at that point she was very verbal, angry and devestated at recent news she had learned about his unfaithfulness.

He took off in a blur and headed N to Va, thinking all of the time as he drove for a couple of hours. He might have stopped at a Hampton he spotted, since he was familiar with these hotels, and went into the lounge to have a few drinks. He dicided to check in, as he had a lot of time before he had to be at his meeting, and after a several drinks, decided to call Michelle. He had a good thing, and now that he had been gone for several hours, maybe she had changed her mind.

I don't think the call went well at all, and something she said incensed him to the point he said to himself, that is it, and left heading back home. He might have gone to his room to decide how to go about this confrontation, as he had now decided to kill her, and think he arrived home around 2-3 and it didn't take long, and he was out of there ASAP. He might have driven by the lake on his way out of town to dispose of the evidenciary items, and headed towards his meeting.

Why does everyone think he used a hotel phone to call her?

Great points, scandi. I'm also inclined to think that this was something that just didn't happen that night, but was brought to the point where he became so enraged at Michelle ~ which would explain the violent manner in which she was killed. Did you happen to see Nancy Grace last night, about the murder of the wife of a college professor? Strange similarities to this case, including the dog being put in a bedroom.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0701/05/ng.01.html

 

[panthera]

Not to mention the possibility of them sloshing over.

IMO, he got rid of whatever he had, VERY close to home. Paid cash for gas the rest of the way and thinks he is Scott free.

We shall see.

Yes, especially the possibility of it spilling, or God-forbid he's in an accident and caught in an inferno. I agree ~ thinks he's Scott free.

 

[close_enough]

All interesting comments this morning. It was like the Close & Raisin Show as the rest of us were all still counting sheep~!

After reading everything, I think Michelle and Jason's problems started mounting 3 mos before she died, and culminated in the last few weeks of great dissention between them. They probably screamed at each other a lot in the last few days, and I think she told him to pack his bags and get out of their house she didn't love him anymore. And that she had started getting things in order to file for a divorce.

That last afternoon in the house I think JY packed his most needy things into 2 or 3 suitcases, like a wounded pup, and left before M's friend arrived. I think at that point she was very verbal, angry and devestated at recent news she had learned about his unfaithfulness.

He took off in a blur and headed N to Va, thinking all of the time as he drove for a couple of hours. He might have stopped at a Hampton he spotted, since he was familiar with these hotels, and went into the lounge to have a few drinks. He dicided to check in, as he had a lot of time before he had to be at his meeting, and after a several drinks, decided to call Michelle. He had a good thing, and now that he had been gone for several hours, maybe she had changed her mind.

I don't think the call went well at all, and something she said incensed him to the point he said to himself, that is it, and left heading back home. He might have gone to his room to decide how to go about this confrontation, as he had now decided to kill her, and think he arrived home around 2-3 and it didn't take long, and he was out of there ASAP. He might have driven by the lake on his way out of town to dispose of the evidenciary items, and headed towards his meeting.

Why does everyone think he used a hotel phone to call her

eta: Also, I'm wondering too about the LE timeline of midnight to 6am, and if anyone saw anything during that time frame. If you take the time of 6am, and he left at that time, he would never have made it to an early meeting up in VA. I think if he killed her, he said **** the meeting, ditched the evidence, went to his hotel to rest for awhile and shower, and headed for
Brevard.

i've never thought that he used the hotel phone to place that call....i've just always thought he used his cell phone...he might HAVE used the hotel phone for all we know....never crossed my mind though, that he would use the phone from a hotel room...

IF there was a business meeting scheduled, i tend to think that JY showed up for it....i'm still sticking with the TOD being somewhere betw 1 am & 3 am....this would give him time to get another good 6 or more hours of driving in, imo....(course it all depends on the time of the meeting, which i DO believe was "early morning", per Fussel's statements...9 am or so)

 

[panthera]

I agree Panthera,

WAY too many cameras at truck stops in this "neck of the woods". A small convenience store works perfect! Too many unsupervised young people out there that time of night to even care IF someone uses the Store's dumpster. (which is illegal in N.C., BTW).

Yes, I know about the illegal dumping here. I hadn't thought of a convenience store, but you're right, even with surveillance cameras inside the store, he could just walk in, hand $$ to the cashier and tell them what pump to turn on. At many of these stores/stations the pumps themselves don't have cameras on them.

 

[close_enough]

I just phoned the Hampton Inn near me. lol They have the same procedure as the Marriott Courtyard - When you check in (not before 3 pm) they want your credit card and ID. Checking out they put the receipt under the door in the middle of the nite.
LOL - I was wondering how to approach this call & I said I was thinking of booking a trip for my mother and just wanted to make sure she knew what to do.Didn't think I should tell her I'm trying to figure out a murder! lol.She said just tell your mother we'd appreciate it if she could just let us know at he front desk when she's leaving so we can go in and clean the room.lol

called the Vanderbilt Hampton Inn, here in Nashville, & they told me the same thing

i just simply told her that i was having a discussion on their checking in/checking out policy...

 

[raisincharlie]

About the game and the weekend that wasn't......maybe if that game and weekend had happened secrets would have been revealed. What if the murder had to happen to prevent that game/weekend from happening?? Sorry, just had to put it out there after thinking of all the crazy reasons people kill. :blushing:

This really is not far fetched Chico - the big sorority sister spa weekend was scheduled for 16 November through 19 November. Supposedly MY was suppose to go as well as MM. I believe they all went through with this even after the murder. Somethings might have definitiely become known during that time for sure.

 

[close_enough]

About the game and the weekend that wasn't......maybe if that game and weekend had happened secrets would have been revealed. What if the murder had to happen to prevent that game/weekend from happening?? Sorry, just had to put it out there after thinking of all the crazy reasons people kill. :blushing:

whoa, i'd have never thought of that...very sneeeeeaky chi chi chi chico...& hi there, BTW

 

[FactsareFacts]

This really is not far fetched Chico - the big sorority sister spa weekend was scheduled for 16 November through 19 November. Supposedly MY was suppose to go as well as MM. I believe they all went through with this even after the murder. Somethings might have definitiely become known during that time for sure.

I believe I read that MY was also going to be attending that SPA weekend too raisin Charlie. I don't recall where I read it though.

 

[close_enough]

hey Bigfish....is there a "Hampton Hotel" anywhere around the area, that you know of??

you have me curious now...

 

[close_enough]

i did a search on "Hampton Hotel in Raleigh NC" & it pulled up Hampton Inns...

 

[5bigfish5]

hey Bigfish....is there a "Hampton Hotel" anywhere around the area, that you know of??

you have me curious now...

Hi,

No "Hampton Hotels" that I can find here. That's what makes the officer's notation "suspect" in my mind.

Several in VA. I'm not so good on the internet as some. That receipt doesn't give ANY info. Could be anywhere.

 

[5bigfish5]

About the game and the weekend that wasn't......maybe if that game and weekend had happened secrets would have been revealed. What if the murder had to happen to prevent that game/weekend from happening?? Sorry, just had to put it out there after thinking of all the crazy reasons people kill. :blushing:

Gawd you guys are on the ball!

Chico,

You have now officially scared me.

Stranger things have happened. I have been sweating those "Season Tickets" for a long time.

 

[raisincharlie]

I believe I read that MY was also going to be attending that SPA weekend too raisin Charlie. I don't recall where I read it though.

Hello FactsareFacts,

I do not recall either where I read that. Thought I would post this for you in the event you had not seen it. It is a timeline for the case put together by Scout and it is very handy for reference:

http://freecal.brownbearsw.com/MichelleYoung?Op=ShowIt&Date=2006-11-01

This link is the main page to Scout's blog:

http://frictionpowered.blogspot.com/

In case you were not aware of this blog and information - if you were aware - sorry !

 

[otto]

I get the feeling we're trying to stretch what little we know to make a theory that we can wrap around Jason. It almost feels like trying to put a one year old's shirt on a two year old child.

I seem to recall, but may be wrong, that Michelle's friends were at the house when Jason left ... in the evening. There's been discussion about the rumour that he left with all sorts of luggage, but when the time line doesn't fit, we speculate that maybe he left earlier in the day. If he left earlier in the day, then we have to toss out everything related to the 2-3 suitcases and the possibility that he was being tossed out of the house. I think we're either missing something, or the timeline won't wrap around Jason.

 

[jilly]

The SUV-SW plainly states "Hampton Hotel". Since the "Hampton Inn" is a very popular hotel in this area, I am surprised that the reporting Officer did not indicate "Inn", IF in fact it was the Hampton Inn.

I'm not surprised about this 5bigfish5. It seems that they are all the same chain owned by Hilton aren't they? (that's what I heard a long time ago) - some are called Hampton Inn Hotel & Suites, some Hampton Inn and others Hampton Hotel.

 

[strach304]

wow, i've never heard of a hotel sliding a receipt under the door in the middle of the night ....hmmmm, that would mean he'd HAVE to get back to the room to get it.....that's odd, imo.....i'm not a 'traveler' at all, but my husband is...i just asked him about this...he's never had that happen to him....interesting....

welllllll, for NOW i'm going with (emphasized "now", lol) an early morning meeting, simply because it appears that's what JY told Fussel....

What most modern hotels do is if check out is at 11am (standard time) and you haven't physically gone to the desk to check out or called to extend your stay they run off all of those receipts by checking you out same way if you were standing there physically, it's all automated. Only difference is both copies of the receipt are attached to registration paperwork and filed with it. The key cards are left in the rooms usually and housekeepers collect and turn in. You can't stay in that room an extra day for instance because there is paperwork for the housekeeping that comes back and the key card is only good for the time paid. There was a poster here that said something about a hotel they stay at putting the receipt under the door but I don't know of any that do this other than as a request. Same with wake up calls they are fully automated as well meaning that you don't have to call and ask for one although you can but you can program it into the phone yourself.

ETA: Close, you can request your copy right then when you check in and you are just automatically processed in the am when the clerk does the rest like I explained above.

 

[strach304]

Just the facts - its true ! I have a problem with the homecoming issue - friends from out of town would be in town - as you say not much motivation to drive 2.5 hours or so to go visit in Brevard. I never saw any of the defenders indicate there was any kind of special event associated with the visit so it just does not make sense to me, still.

Ok RC, consider this; the drive back to Raleigh during rush hour traffic after his business would be 5 hours and 16 mins. 320 miles, Duffield to Brevard 2 hours and 50 mins. 139 miles in the early afternoon if it was a morning meeting maybe and then on Saturday morning no rush hour traffic and the trip back to Raleigh from Brevard is 4 hours and 52 mins. 282 miles. Plenty of time to make the game.