Michelle Young: Pregnant Mom murdered NC part 9

[close_enough]

Hello FactsareFacts,

I do not recall either where I read that. Thought I would post this for you in the event you had not seen it. It is a timeline for the case put together by Scout and it is very handy for reference:

http://freecal.brownbearsw.com/MichelleYoung?Op=ShowIt&Date=2006-11-01

This link is the main page to Scout's blog:

http://frictionpowered.blogspot.com/

In case you were not aware of this blog and information - if you were aware - sorry !

hey, i'd never seen this timeline before...thanks for posting it...i guess i missed it along the way....

 

[strach304]

Express check outs are often handled this way if you let them know you want this service - it precludes one having to go to the desk and checking out to get the receipt. I have not encountered a hotel where the receipt is given to you at check in, the card is taken but the account is open to allow for phone calls, room service etc. Somehow JY had to get that receipt.

You can do this with a credit card because any additional charges are just processed and charged to your card when they run off the check outs in the am. Phone calls, movies, room service etc. all automated system. That's why you have to have a cc to check in but can change it when you check out to cash if you like. Also there's the key card deposit that you forfeit if you don't turn in the key card and your card will be charged like a 500.00 fine or whatever if you smoke in a non-smoking room etc. stuff like that.

 

[5bigfish5]

I'm not surprised about this 5bigfish5. It seems that they are all the same chain owned by Hilton aren't they? (that's what I heard a long time ago) - some are called Hampton Inn Hotel & Suites, some Hampton Inn and others Hampton Hotel.

Hi Jilly,

I just don't know. All I know, is that it seemed strange to me.

With what little I could find out, there are lots of "Hampton Hotels" in VA, not even affiliated with Hampton Inn or Suites, as it is known here.


Happy Sleuthing, this one is a bit¢h!

 

[close_enough]

What most modern hotels do is if check out is at 11am (standard time) and you haven't physically gone to the desk to check out or called to extend your stay they run off all of those receipts by checking you out same way if you were standing there physically, it's all automated. Only difference is both copies of the receipt are attached to registration paperwork and filed with it. The key cards are left in the rooms usually and housekeepers collect and turn in. You can't stay in that room an extra day for instance because there is paperwork for the housekeeping that comes back and the key card is only good for the time paid. There was a poster here that said something about a hotel they stay at putting the receipt under the door but I don't know of any that do this other than as a request. Same with wake up calls they are fully automated as well meaning that you don't have to call and ask for one although you can but you can program it into the phone yourself.

ETA: Close, you can request your copy right then when you check in and you are just automatically processed in the am when the clerk does the rest like I explained above.

right strach...i'd never heard of it before...i called a Hampton Inn here in Nashville, & if you check in at say 10 pm, they will not give you a receipt (which i still find strange) until after midnight when everything is processed??...that's what the girl told me, so i have to assume that's how all Hampton Inn's work...(jilly called one in her area also)......

i'd say that's probably why my husband always gets his receipts up front at different places...he checks in around the regular times, usually 3 pm or a little after...he heads out in the early morning hours & tries to get to his destination/rooms by afternoon, early evening....my husband said he never has a problem with getting a receipt when checking in places, when he knows how long he's staying....he said it's rare he ever physically checks out, but he has to have his receipt to send to the main office to get reimbursed....i'm trying to think of the different places he stays..i know Best Western is one, but there's others...(he's gone with his buddy to get beer, so i'll ask when they get back)

 

[strach304]

I get the feeling we're trying to stretch what little we know to make a theory that we can wrap around Jason. It almost feels like trying to put a one year old's shirt on a two year old child.

I seem to recall, but may be wrong, that Michelle's friends were at the house when Jason left ... in the evening. There's been discussion about the rumour that he left with all sorts of luggage, but when the time line doesn't fit, we speculate that maybe he left earlier in the day. If he left earlier in the day, then we have to toss out everything related to the 2-3 suitcases and the possibility that he was being tossed out of the house. I think we're either missing something, or the timeline won't wrap around Jason.

My questions as of now is; where is the luggage? Why are we still suspecting Jason physically did this? It's starting to look impossible to me. Although much of his alibi looked completely contrived if everything checks out he couldn't physically have done it.

 

[close_enough]

I get the feeling we're trying to stretch what little we know to make a theory that we can wrap around Jason. It almost feels like trying to put a one year old's shirt on a two year old child.

I seem to recall, but may be wrong, that Michelle's friends were at the house when Jason left ... in the evening. There's been discussion about the rumour that he left with all sorts of luggage, but when the time line doesn't fit, we speculate that maybe he left earlier in the day. If he left earlier in the day, then we have to toss out everything related to the 2-3 suitcases and the possibility that he was being tossed out of the house. I think we're either missing something, or the timeline won't wrap around Jason.

oh i know that i'm trying to stretch what little i know otto, lol...can't help it...i'm trying to think 'simple' though..(except for the gas containers )
...trying to keep the things we DO know (which is VERY little) as simple as possible in my mind, without going waaaaay 'out there'.....

oops...edited to add.....you're right; at the very beginning we all figured that the friend was there to watch Grey's Anatomy with Michelle, AND that JY was there also, maybe getting ready to "slip out" for his business trip.....i think we've determined though that it's not been officially stated that was the case....my theory is that the friend WAS there & saw him leave, but as time goes on, i'm just not sure, since nothing has actually been stated about it....in trying to keep things 'simple' i'm working with the friend seeing him leave....the article is worded in a weird way about this, so it can be taken two different ways....

Michelle Young's last day was like most for her. She headed to downtown Raleigh on Nov. 2 to work as a senior financial analyst in the tax department of Progress Energy. After work, it was a quiet evening at home.

Jason Young has said he slipped out that evening to get a head start for an early morning sales meeting in Virginia, according to Fussell, who said he talked to Jason Young at his wife's funeral.

Michelle Young stayed behind with Cassidy; a girlfriend came over to watch TV with her, the friend told Fussell. Cassidy popped in a DVD of "Cinderella" -- a Halloween gift -- and watched until she fell fast asleep.

http://www.newsobserver.com/141/story/511581.html

 

[5bigfish5]

I get the feeling we're trying to stretch what little we know to make a theory that we can wrap around Jason. It almost feels like trying to put a one year old's shirt on a two year old child.

I seem to recall, but may be wrong, that Michelle's friends were at the house when Jason left ... in the evening. There's been discussion about the rumour that he left with all sorts of luggage, but when the time line doesn't fit, we speculate that maybe he left earlier in the day. If he left earlier in the day, then we have to toss out everything related to the 2-3 suitcases and the possibility that he was being tossed out of the house. I think we're either missing something, or the timeline won't wrap around Jason.

Otto, I believe you are correct!

We ARE on the right trail, but premature. This is a very frustrating case, to be sure, because of the lack of information. I hope that Michelle and un-named-baby boy (how I hated typing that) will get justice.

I also hope that any tricks that any future defendant's Attorney tries to pull, will back-fire BIGTIME!

 

[strach304]

I just phoned the Hampton Inn near me. lol They have the same procedure as the Marriott Courtyard - When you check in (not before 3 pm) they want your credit card and ID. Checking out they put the receipt under the door in the middle of the nite.

LOL - I was wondering how to approach this call & I said I was thinking of booking a trip for my mother and just wanted to make sure she knew what to do.Didn't think I should tell her I'm trying to figure out a murder! lol.She said just tell your mother we'd appreciate it if she could just let us know at he front desk when she's leaving so we can go in and clean the room.lol

That was a good idea to call that particular hotel for their procedure because they aren't all exactly alike with their systems specific to their policy. To have a receipt put under your door I am sure you would have to request that even if it's in the way of saying I will not be coming to the desk to formally check out but want my receipt. If he checked in at say 10 or 11 pm the way the automated system works he could go to the desk at 12:01 am and be checked out but the receipt will refect that time whereas if you tell them to put the receipt under the door in the morning or whatever the key card will not work to get back in the room. Make sense?

 

[close_enough]

& about the "all sorts of luggage".....i don't remember reading anything about that...is this something that an 'insider' posted over at ctv???

 

[FactsareFacts]

Hello FactsareFacts,

I do not recall either where I read that. Thought I would post this for you in the event you had not seen it. It is a timeline for the case put together by Scout and it is very handy for reference:

http://freecal.brownbearsw.com/MichelleYoung?Op=ShowIt&Date=2006-11-01

This link is the main page to Scout's blog:

http://frictionpowered.blogspot.com/

In case you were not aware of this blog and information - if you were aware - sorry !

Thanks Raisin I had been there but it's been awhile so it was good to look over again anyways.

 

[close_enough]

if JY headed out on a Thursday evening, had a business meeting on Friday morning, then was going to head to his parents house for the rest of the weekend, then i don't find it odd at all that he would have more than one bag/suitcase....is that the thing here about "all sorts of luggage"???

 

[strach304]

there's all kinds of Hampton Hotels in Hampton VA, which is 3 & half hours from Raleigh....

RC and I already worked that theory last night because I think on the warrant info it says Hampton Motel not hotel. Doesn't fit with the gas station receipt for Stone Gap,Va. which is technically where the Get It Market is not Duffield. There's 14 miles difference. Can't make a match fit and I've mapped it out in every way possible I think and done numerous searches for the gas stations, motels and hotels. The Duffield one fits like a glove.

 

[raisincharlie]

That was a good idea to call that particular hotel for their procedure because they aren't all exactly alike with their systems specific to their policy. To have a receipt put under your door I am sure you would have to request that even if it's in the way of saying I will not be coming to the desk to formally check out but want my receipt. If he checked in at say 10 or 11 pm the way the automated system works he could go to the desk at 12:01 am and be checked out but the receipt will refect that time whereas if you tell them to put the receipt under the door in the morning or whatever the key card will not work to get back in the room. Make sense?

I've never had a problem with my key card not working Strach - right up til check out time and most of the hotels I stay at do indeed provide the receipt under the door. Some it must be requested - others do not require the request. This procedure may be related to chains and the software employed and that may vary from one provider to another. JMO

ETA - hope you are better today.

 

[close_enough]

RC and I already worked that theory last night because I think on the warrant info it says Hampton Motel not hotel. Doesn't fit with the gas station receipt for Stone Gap,Va. which is technically where the Get It Market is not Duffield. There's 14 miles difference. Can't make a match fit and I've mapped it out in every way possible I think and done numerous searches for the gas stations, motels and hotels. The Duffield one fits like a glove.

the SW says "Hotel", but i agree with you...Hampton VA doesn't 'fit'...Duffield does, but i don't think JY drove all the way to Duffield on 11/2...

 

[strach304]

if JY headed out on a Thursday evening, had a business meeting on Friday morning, then was going to head to his parents house for the rest of the weekend, then i don't find it odd at all that he would have more than one bag/suitcase....is that the thing here about "all sorts of luggage"???

My thing with the luggage right now is where is the warrant for it? Not listed on the SUV. I think he may have taken his family to a hotel before going to Meredith's and probably even called her from there to say he was on his way over. Has to be a seperate warrant maybe because his step father said they took the luggage as well as meds, purses, etc. Has to be another warrant right?

 

[scandi]

I read this at CTV, and it made sense to me, though I couldn't tell if it was from a link or from the poster: " . .The victim was found inside the family residence. The vehicle was not used to transport the body in the commission of a crime. The vehicle was returned..

I also read over there that the SW has 21 pages. Has anyone here seen this. I wonder if that's a compilation of all the SWs?

 

[close_enough]

My thing with the luggage right now is where is the warrant for it? Not listed on the SUV. I think he may have taken his family to a hotel before going to Meredith's and probably even called her from there to say he was on his way over. Has to be a seperate warrant maybe because his step father said they took the luggage as well as meds, purses, etc. Has to be another warrant right?

the above makes perfect sense to me...must be another warrant 'out there'

 

[strach304]

I've never had a problem with my key card not working Strach - right up til check out time and most of the hotels I stay at do indeed provide the receipt under the door. Some it must be requested - others do not require the request. This procedure may be related to chains and the software employed and that may vary from one provider to another. JMO

ETA - hope you are better today.

Still sick, thanks. The key cards are date sensitive just won't work after 11 am.

 

[close_enough]

Still sick, thanks. The key cards are date sensitive just won't work after 11 am.

sorry to read you're sick Strach

same here...got a nasty upper respiratory thing ....now i've had to add a cough suppressant to my little list of meds here....this is my 3rd day on an antibiotic, ugh...slowly but surely i'm hoping this stuff will go away...

 

[scandi]

That is odd Strach, as there were meds and a brown purse with attached keys listed, but no luggage. And I thought for sure the step father was angry they had taken the luggage. Remember the BinL and parents stayed at a residence type hotel {has a kitchette} when they came to Raleigh. I'm sure they made reservations before they got there. Why didn't they remnove their things from the car when they checked in? Unless it was they were expecting JY to come right back to join them. That could be why. Go get Cassidy and come right back. Except the warrant was executed at 3:15am on the 4th and the car was confiscated at 4am on the 4th.

Am I missing something? Jason gets to Bravard at 3pm on the 3rd. They get ready and head back to Raleigh - a 5 hour drive. So you would think they would get into Raleigh around 9pm. Secure their motel, and at some time Jason heads over to Merediths to get Cassidy. Why would he wait that long and go in the wee hours of the morning? So he wouldn't be spotted?