AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Wsimm]

Yup
However, here's a thing I posted a few days ago which has bugged me

Why did NG take an uber to dinner that fateful Sat night?
Hunh - who makes an 84 yr old do that?
Even if she wanted to, I wouldn't let my 84 yr old mom to take an uber.
You might just have the one in a thousand weirdo driver be her driver
Just me I guess

And then she's driven home by the daughter and/or SIL
Which kinda proves my point

I feel the same way. I’ll say again, that’s why I love this site… so many different personal perspectives. It really gets you thinking. For me personally my mom is 86 in excellent physical health, fiercely independent and I too would describe her sharp as a tac. With that said, I’ve become increasingly protective of her over the last 10 years. Primarily to keep her desired independence as long as possible.

 

[Nikynoo]

Right.
We know the name of the company owned by the neighbor.
WHEN did Nancy last have work done on her roof---do we know this?????

January.

 

[DS2021]

Thinking about it, would AB have a solid relationship with LE in Tuscon? I have my doubts, so is the source from the FBI? I have my doubts there too because this would mean that AB has impeccable sources in every police force and FBI unit in the USA.

I also question how this source is so exclusive that they appear to only be giving this info to AB and no one else

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Hello all! I've been reading and keeping up with the thread for a couple days now and all the thoughts and leads everyone has been posting has been inspiring, so I thought maybe I would leave my thoughts here to inspire anyone else!

My main focus has been the motive of this crime. If money was the motive, then it is my belief the ransom notes would have included either Proof of Life or some form of an open communication line, therefore assuring they receive the money they want. I think regardless of intelligence, the kidnapper(s) would have known no money would exchange hands until there is Proof of Life.

So if money isn't the motive, then my next best guess is attention. The fact these ransom notes have been delivered only to news stations would corroborate this. Not to mention, SG's obvious ties to the news. It feels like a lot of this crime has been done to capture the attention of the country and News Cycle. (Another thought along these lines is the fact the response to the kidnappers from SG and LE may have been purposely not posted through news channels in order to deny them that fame, and therefore prompting the kidnapper to reach out again.)

That has been my line of thinking thus far, and if anyone disagrees with the above I would love to hear it. It's hard poking holes in your own theories haha.

On another note, I keep seeing mention of an Uber Driver and I can't seem to find where that comes into play, as far as I know NG was dropped off at home that night by her family. If anyone has a link or can quickly clear that up for me I would appreciate it.

One think that does keep bothering me, is that the ransom notes came in so late after the crime.
So I was thinking that she was dying/or dead....so they had to scramble.
See what they could get with no "proof of life", make the demands, but say "no more communication"

And when/if that didn't work the first time, then resort to still getting money
"proof of body"--so they could get Nancy back home for a proper buriel.

But I have also taken into account, that LE is not moving super fast with no Proof of Life, because they are hoping their digging might be able to get the perp.

So I still think the perps are in that "outer circle" of service people, and/or acquaintances etc.. (#3)

However, I still hold the possibility that someone in the inner circle was an initial connection to that outer circle....

 

[Aquabot13]

Those crypto ATMs are commonly used in scams with the elderly - Crypto ATM Scams: Don’t Let Fraudsters Drain Your Wallet

However, the scam usually involves the victim being directed to insert cash (sometimes they also take debit/credit). I'd wager that the amount the kidnapper is asking for in the ransom letter is far beyond what could be reasonably scammed at one of those machines.

Maybe, though, she had been doing smaller transactions for a while and this was a final escalation? Maybe a smaller-scale scammer realized how connected she is and decided to go for a big payday?

I don't think that's the case, but it makes about as much sense as anything else (so minimal). I do think that, even though NG is reportedly "with it," anyone can fall into these traps. AI can impersonate voices and there's so much data available online for scammers to leverage.

Either way, they should be able to see any transactions or large cash withdrawals on her bank account, and there would almost definitely be security footage on the way to/at the ATM. I'm sure they've checked financials already.

MOO

 

[bestill]

Slapping my head like a dummy. I was thinking Circle K was a campground.

KOA!!!

 

[birdbox]

And... (speculating that NG's car might have been captured outside of NG's property) if NG drove her car home, opening her garage at 9:48 pm to drive her car in, why did she uber to dinner? Why was her car not available at 5 pm? And if NG drove her car, why did the police say family dropped her off?

The unanswered question -- was NG's car driven at any point that day/night? It's a fair question because LE seized it.

JMO

I have a speculative answer not based on any fact whatsoever. My husband's parents once loaned their car to my neice (their granddaughter) for a couple weeks. Then they took an Uber to my SILs house to go pick up the car and drive it back home later that night.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

January.

Thanks,
All I remembered was speculation of something having been done "recently".
Did you remember if any particular contractor was mentioned?

 

[txsleuth70]

Thinking about it, would AB have a solid relationship with LE in Tuscon? I have my doubts, so is the source from the FBI? I have my doubts there too because this would mean that AB has impeccable sources in every police force and FBI unit in the USA.

Have you listened to what AB herself has had to say about that? She speaks on it.

 

[Strangeworld]

This case has so many twists and turns —and I just have to say that I found the repost and the question a little weird (sorry AJ). Why check back later? Could this be a veiled communication. For someone? Prob reading more onto the post —and repost (which is what caught my eye) but why ask that question twice and then come back later? What are you waiting to see?

I was a little caught off guard too. Moreso in terms of the discussion question, how it relates to the case. Although this is an interesting reflective question, it just felt a bit jarring as it came out of nowhere and seemed more about research.

I really want to know about the white van!

 

[Sadi]

I don’t think there will be another presser until someone is aprehended and in custody

I have to think it will be soon, well, at least hope it is.

 

[academyrd]

If you guys were in the shoes of SIL, which is an impossible thing to imagine, do you think you would try to clear your name and say something if you were innocent? He probably has the internet it wouldn’t take him long to see himself being mentioned as a suspect all over the place.

I have to imagine after a few days of this I would feel compelled to make an announcement or at least put out a written statement declaring my innocence. JMO

 

[ttjo]

After some googling, I'm shocked to find out that there are multiple such ATMs in town.
I would imagine one cannot withdraw X million from such an ATM and also it would not be anonymous, but I don't know for sure.

I was shocked too, Maybe if there are so many it doesn’t mean anything,

 

[mikeshanty]

Spookily quiet on this case; I'm guessing there is something big coming soon.

 

[wibbleflea]

Thinking about it, would AB have a solid relationship with LE in Tuscon? I have my doubts, so is the source from the FBI? I have my doubts there too because this would mean that AB has impeccable sources in every police force and FBI unit in the USA.

What she has said in the last couple of episodes and her appearance on Megyn Kelly’s show (both are YouTube channels now) is that her source is someone directly connected to the investigation, high up in LE, someone she has known for a decade and someone whose position on this hasn’t changed, namely that the SIL may be a prime suspect. She uses that as the basis for her other observations but it’s odd to me that a LE official that high up would say that to her.

I don’t doubt her at all – I just find it odd that her source would say that.

 

[Charlot123]

I can see why someone would think that for sure, but I can also see that it's as likely that she is media shy and uncomfortable in those types of settings, particularly under these circumstances. Lots of folks have scrutinized and commented on her breathing and/or her blinking in the first video, but I attribute it more to "fish out of water" behavior myself.

JMO.

If you look at all three, they all appear media shy, only one is professionally trained to handle media!

The only difference might be in world experience. But since two are obviously very loving of their mom, I see no reason why the third one doesn't need to be.

And who are we to judge people leaving such a nightmare, right?

 

[MassGuy]

If you guys were in the shoes of SIL, which is an impossible thing to imagine, do you think you would try to clear your name and say something if you were innocent? He probably has the internet it wouldn’t take him long to see himself being mentioned as a suspect all over the place.

I have to imagine after a few days of this I would feel compelled to make an announcement or at least put out a written statement declaring my innocence. JMO

There's no universe where I would be able to remain silent, but everyone is different, and every case is different.

 

[SMK777]

Spookily quiet on this case; I'm guessing there is something big coming soon.

I sure hope that's what the silence means!

 

[lonetraveler]

If you guys were in the shoes of SIL, which is an impossible thing to imagine, do you think you would try to clear your name and say something if you were innocent? He probably has the internet it wouldn’t take him long to see himself being mentioned as a suspect all over the place.

I have to imagine after a few days of this I would feel compelled to make an announcement or at least put out a written statement declaring my innocence. JMO

I'm hoping that he has been very occupied in an interrogation room.

 

[Megnut]

Taking a moment to collect my thoughts.

NG is missing. That alone makes this an outlier. A break-in or SA, if there was a murder at all, no need to remove the victim. Unless for fear of DNA. But I don't think the details align with that all.

So why is she missing? Due to age/blood thinners, IMO it's entirely possible that her injury was unplanned, may have resulted from her mobility challenges, in which case, she would have gone missing with no sign of injury.

Why?

To hide DNA in the case of SA. If there was SA, I think LE knows that, based on the appearance of the crime scene.

If no obvious signs of SA, again, why is she missing?

Perpetrator needed her alive.

To aid in relocating her? Too heavy to carry? Force her to walk...

In order to swindle her? Take her to an ATM/Bitcoin and hope she has assets she can convert for you?

It's an anomaly. 84 year old victim. Missing. But likely alive when taken from her home.

It's easy to say that ransomers might be capitalizing on a news story. We know of one already.

But what I can't get past is that, if not as a set up for ransom, why was she removed from her home?

JMO