AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Nikynoo]

Is this stating one of the two individuals is who they are looking for as a possible suspect? Both have some sort of id badges, LE would be able to see the details better showing here.

The people in that picture are LE

 

[dotr]

Fwiw, noting..
Nov 12, 2025 rbbm.

Valley woman warns of 'too good to be true' door-to-door sales

One Valley woman thought she was saying yes to a great roofing deal. Instead, she nearly lost thousands of dollars. But, before she did anything else, she called Let ABC15 Know.

www.abc15.com

''Ann's roofing problem didn't start with a leak.
She said she was on her couch, watching TV, when her doorbell rang. It was a door-to-door salesman for a roofing company.'

"This guy was so nice, he was so, so nice," Ann said, describing the man who came to her door. " He told me he had gone to a prayer meeting the night before and he had me hooked there!"

 

[mikeshanty]

If you look at all three, they all appear media shy, only one is professionally trained to handle media!

The only difference might be in world experience. But since two are obviously very loving of their mom, I see no reason why the third one doesn't need to be.

And who are we to judge people leaving such a nightmare, right?

But isn't it odd there hasn't been a more emphatic statement from the police ruling out AG and SIL? They are aware of the immense speculation, but all the sheriff said was basically "just be more mindful".

 

[Jade]

My similar aged Granny agrees and approves of that statement!

Since I have posted that I think its just plain polite to see an elder in the door at a later hour on a deep dark night in general and especially when you are the in town child presumably feeling somewhat, at least, responsible for nothing happening on your watch.

I hope you all explained that no one literally meant tuck her in with a blanket under her chin!

And that Mrs Guthrie has very limited mobility, apparently being treated for significant health concerns and lived in a large home by herself where the nights are unbelievably dark.

See her in the door, make sure her phone is by the bed, instead of the car where Mrs Guthrie's was apparently but maybe she has a landline to call for help, ask if there anything I can do before I go then leave making sure the door is locked behind me.

Now is that too bad ?
No one is less independent. It doesn't have to take but a minute and makes the last to see her feel they were taking care.

All imo

 

[SMK777]

There's no universe where I would be able to remain silent, but everyone is different, and every case is different.

Same here. Do you think maybe an attorney has advised him, if innocent, to make no comments at this time?

 

[Curiousraccoon]

Thanks,
All I remembered was speculation of something having been done "recently".
Did you remember if any particular contractor was mentioned?

No, not publicly.
Are you looking at a neighbor?

 

[birdbox]

One think that does keep bothering me, is that the ransom notes came in so late after the crime.
So I was thinking that she was dying/or dead....so they had to scramble.
See what they could get with no "proof of life", make the demands, but say "no more communication"

And when/if that didn't work the first time, then resort to still getting money
"proof of body"--so they could get Nancy back home for a proper buriel.

But I have also taken into account, that LE is not moving super fast with no Proof of Life, because they are hoping their digging might be able to get the perp.

So I still think the perps are in that "outer circle" of service people, and/or acquaintances etc.. (#3)

However, I still hold the possibility that someone in the inner circle was an initial connection to that outer circle....

You know, now that I think about it, this bothers me. What if it was days before she was reported missing? What if the one Eagle eyed church goer would jot have reported her missing. Its not uncommon to go several days of not talking to elderly parents and grandparents. Why not release the ransom note immediately. Or maybe they did and we aren't aware??? Is that possible?

 

[bestill]

Spookily quiet on this case; I'm guessing there is something big coming soon.

If not then the family is going to have to make some very hard decisions, pay the ransom by Monday and wait for a response. If nothing then they are really in a tough spot as to what is next for them.

 

[thefragile7393]

One think that does keep bothering me, is that the ransom notes came in so late after the crime.
So I was thinking that she was dying/or dead....so they had to scramble.
See what they could get with no "proof of life", make the demands, but say "no more communication"

And when/if that didn't work the first time, then resort to still getting money
"proof of body"--so they could get Nancy back home for a proper buriel.

But I have also taken into account, that LE is not moving super fast with no Proof of Life, because they are hoping their digging might be able to get the perp.

So I still think the perps are in that "outer circle" of service people, and/or acquaintances etc.. (#3)

However, I still hold the possibility that someone in the inner circle was an initial connection to that outer circle....

IIRC, didn't it come in the day after? or was that the hoax one? Was there 3, with one so far being proven as a hoax? Or am I absolutely confused?

 

[vlbay]

If you guys were in the shoes of SIL, which is an impossible thing to imagine, do you think you would try to clear your name and say something if you were innocent? He probably has the internet it wouldn’t take him long to see himself being mentioned as a suspect all over the place.

I have to imagine after a few days of this I would feel compelled to make an announcement or at least put out a written statement declaring my innocence. JMO

I think the worst thing he could do is somehow make this ongoing situation about him while NG is still missing.

 

[Charlot123]

Im going to disagree slightly with his comment. There was an acid attack in Savannah, GA recently against a woman walking her dog. She's still alive and recovering. FBI got involved within about a similar time frame to analyze substance and they even created a holiness for tips. There is no dead person and no crossing of Stateline in that case. FBI can get involved for a variety of reasons and often do.

If the ransom notes were sent via email or such, then it is cybercrime and FBI deals with it.

 

[thefragile7393]

If you guys were in the shoes of SIL, which is an impossible thing to imagine, do you think you would try to clear your name and say something if you were innocent? He probably has the internet it wouldn’t take him long to see himself being mentioned as a suspect all over the place.

I have to imagine after a few days of this I would feel compelled to make an announcement or at least put out a written statement declaring my innocence. JMO

No. I'd keep quiet because anything I say or do will be skewered in the court of public opinion regardless.

 

[Aquabot13]

I was shocked too, Maybe if there are so many it doesn’t mean anything,

IMO that's part of the whole scam ecosystem of those things - they advertise these ATMs as a business. You can buy them and place them (for several thousand dollars).

JMO - as a crypto hater I've kept an eye on this

 

[cady]

If you guys were in the shoes of SIL, which is an impossible thing to imagine, do you think you would try to clear your name and say something if you were innocent? He probably has the internet it wouldn’t take him long to see himself being mentioned as a suspect all over the place.

I have to imagine after a few days of this I would feel compelled to make an announcement or at least put out a written statement declaring my innocence. JMO

Best to be silent...the harassment would be unbearable if he stuck his neck out.

 

[birdbox]

If you guys were in the shoes of SIL, which is an impossible thing to imagine, do you think you would try to clear your name and say something if you were innocent? He probably has the internet it wouldn’t take him long to see himself being mentioned as a suspect all over the place.

I have to imagine after a few days of this I would feel compelled to make an announcement or at least put out a written statement declaring my innocence. JMO

This would be a tough spot to be in for sure.

 

[HobnobsNBroomsticks]

If you guys were in the shoes of SIL, which is an impossible thing to imagine, do you think you would try to clear your name and say something if you were innocent? He probably has the internet it wouldn’t take him long to see himself being mentioned as a suspect all over the place.

I have to imagine after a few days of this I would feel compelled to make an announcement or at least put out a written statement declaring my innocence. JMO

i would be very tempted to put out a statement, but knowing how the internet works, I’d also know there’d still be a lot of people doubting me no matter what I say, so maybe I’d decide it’s best to just be quiet - damned if you do, damned if you don’t kind of a situation.

Plus, if I had concrete evidence I didn’t do it, I still maybe wouldn’t put out a statement depending on if the police wanted me to keep it quiet for whatever reason (maybe to make the guilty person think they’re off the hook or something)

 

[CSIDreamer]

Wait, this gas station its right next to Athena BITCOIN ATM?
loool

Well, hopefully that ATM has a camera. That's weird. JMO

 

[mikeshanty]

If not then the family is going to have to make some very hard decisions, pay the ransom by Monday and wait for a response. If nothing then they are really in a tough spot as to what is next for them.

Completely agree. I've also been wondering what SG does next if there are no developments. It's rare journalists and news anchor end up becoming the story, I wonder if a return to Today would be too much for her, and possibly she is rethinking her life after this traumatic experience.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Yup
However, here's a thing I posted a few days ago which has bugged me

Why did NG take an uber to dinner that fateful Sat night?
Hunh - who makes an 84 yr old do that?
Even if she wanted to, I wouldn't let my 84 yr old mom to take an uber.
You might just have the one in a thousand weirdo driver be her driver
Just me I guess

And then she's driven home by the daughter and/or SIL
Which kinda proves my point

But did you read all the various answers and possibilities that so many posters stated about the uber?
These comments would have been multiple days ago.
I know it does keep coming up in the thread, but it really was addressed a lot, as soon as it was announced.

 

[SMK777]

Taking a moment to collect my thoughts.

NG is missing. That alone makes this an outlier. A break-in or SA, if there was a murder at all, no need to remove the victim. Unless for fear of DNA. But I don't think the details align with that all.

So why is she missing? Due to age/blood thinners, IMO it's entirely possible that her injury was unplanned, may have resulted from her mobility challenges, in which case, she would have gone missing with no sign of injury.

Why?

To hide DNA in the case of SA. If there was SA, I think LE knows that, based on the appearance of the crime scene.

If no obvious signs of SA, again, why is she missing?

Perpetrator needed her alive.

To aid in relocating her? Too heavy to carry? Force her to walk...

In order to swindle her? Take her to an ATM/Bitcoin and hope she has assets she can convert for you?

It's an anomaly. 84 year old victim. Missing. But likely alive when taken from her home.

It's easy to say that ransomers might be capitalizing on a news story. We know of one already.

But what I can't get past is that, if not as a set up for ransom, why was she removed from her home?

JMO

Don't know how on target my instincts are, but as I've posted up thread, if an argument with family OR worker whom NG was threatening to expose for fraud, harmed her too much to report to authorities, and in a panic had to remove her from the scene ( and create a kidnapping ruse as misdirection.)