AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Back online after 12 hours off...

Is FBI Director expected to make a statement today? I heard he is visiting Tucson today as part of the pre-planned visit.
I'm of the impression they do not want to open themselves to questions at this juncture. But there are those with questionable judgment and lack of experience afoot, so maybe?

My opinion only.
 
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I just woke up. Are we still on SIL or just discussing?

When I heard about SIL as a potential suspect, my first question was, could there be another woman on the side? This would be a huge drain of money. Plus, he is a musician, a performer, it is a lifestyle where you are surrounded by people, fans. JMO. I am positive that in a small suburb, there are lots of gossips about everyone.

Can someone tell me if the case has moved on, or not?

If not, there is a chance that it never will.
no one knows anything new.
 
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They wouldn't have purchased a home close by if they weren't up for the commitment. Often in families this sort of thing happens, one sibling wants to do it, maybe if they don't have children of their own it's an easier responsibility to take on the day to day. Or they have an affinity to Nancy too.

They take on the commitment because they love their mother, but as time goes on it can become very exhausting and time consuming especially when one is married and they both have jobs. Things can always change as well. It may work for a long time and then something happens where it no longer works for whatever reason. Family dynamics change and problems can arise. I love my grandma so much and we're extremely close but taking care of her by myself is very hard on me sometimes especially with no help from other family members. ):

WHERE are you Ms. Nancy? I hope, wish and pray she is found soon.

MOO>
 
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Why on earth would a cartel cause trouble for themselves by coming to Anerica to kidnap a random morning news host's mother?
One could ask the same question about Venezuela and Maduro (jmo). Neither make sense.
 
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The major cartels in AZ are known for drugs. They are violent, have no scruples about human life, but I would think word on the street would have already been out if this was a cartel hit. Drug cartels, however, DO USE BITCOIN to launder money, particularly Sinola. And Sinola is in Tucson.
Thank you.
 
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This door looks like it would be heavy and APITA to unlock.
How do doors like that lock from the inside? Do you need a key or you just flip a bolt?

If she was taken through the front door, how was the door re-locked (maybe it wasn’t? I’ve been following this from the beginning and may have forgotten that tidbit). The sheriff said her keys were still in the house, so who else could have locked the door from the outside?
 
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That has been debunked. Of course I don't have a link, but it's been shown the gap between the family going to check on NG and calling 911 was closer to 5 minutes. JMO

Yes that is exactly the point of my post.

The misinformation seems to have come from the sheriff. JMO.

It is making me question whether the ''call from church" is similar misinformation and if that's why it has now been omitted.
 
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We know the deadline for the ransom money (5pm local time), but do we know what time she'd then be released?

Even if I was a trusting person, and I am not by far, I wouldn't trust them even the slightest bit. To take millions with a chance of never being caught?? But those chances of being caught grow by releasing Nancy. I'm not feeling good about this at all.

I didn't like that they were reduced to begging, in public no less, and now paying a high ransom to MAYBE get their mother back? It would be more than a double slap in the face to pay and get nothing for it. And you KNOW they'd be laughing about it. The thought really frosts my butt. :mad: :mad: :mad:

It's going to be a nailbiter of a day for everyone. I really feel for the family. :(
 
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agree, it was omitted, not removed. And I wonder if that is because authorities have vetted the call and the caller and that caller deserves anonymity in what almost immediately became a national headline bearing case.

Can you imagine if the press knew who made that call? They would be camped out on that individuals doorstep harassing them for info and statements, following them to the grocery store and gas station.

Or the authorities feel the call, has no place on their timeline. They don't do what they do to suit us. MOO if they felt it was relevant it would be there. They do not feel it is important for the public to know who made that call or what time.
This is a bit far fetched but it’s also possible they learned new information while vetting the call that they don’t necessarily want public.

All to say, there are a ton of reasons why the sheriff doesn’t want to focus on that phone call. Assuming it’s because it couldn’t be verified is silly at this stage, IMO.
 
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I'm struck by how... f'd up this whole situation is. Just depressing, evil humiliation for the family.
 
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no one knows anything new.

Thank you!
Then, I doubt we shall. I hope that the family has an idea, and maybe it will be blamed on some mysterious “cartel” or other unsavory elements operating around.

Is it a common position that Nancy is not with us anymore? It surely feels so.
 
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How far behind? On her property?
I believe Brian Entin mentioned in his video that it was probably a sprinkler head that had ruptured.
 
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There’s a

This is a bit far fetched but it’s also possible they learned new information while vetting the call that they don’t necessarily want public.

All to say, there are a ton of reasons why the sheriff doesn’t want to focus on that phone call. Assuming it’s because it couldn’t be verified is silly at this stage, IMO.
I am gradually come to the conclusion there was no call at all. Unless the pastor verified it. JMO.
 
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I'm growing increasingly concerned this is another Kyron Horman gone forever, no closure situation. After she is missing a year or two life insurance policy will payout and Savannah will probably get requests every 6 months to add money to Bitcoin to get a body. Horrible situation. I read a former LE said, "This case will likely rewrite the play book." and by that i think he means the old way of wait, stall, delay dont pay ransom plan didnt work here. They likely killed her at that deadline. Now, that is all based on if in fact it was an actual kidnapping.
 
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Is this something between Savannah and the person who is sending the ransom notes?
It's citing Fox News, which has been deemed not credible here. Plus the expert calls Savannah "Samantha" 3 times.
 
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Amazing how people who’ve never lived here see cartels behind every shrub, especially when the most high-profile crimes here have been committed by Americans.
Most people are not aware of crime going on around them. My city was controlled by organized crime in the 1950s and 60s (moon shine kingpin lawyer had control of the courts). ~99% of people were totally unaware, me included.
 

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