Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[HoveringWombats]

Also on the VPN topic, maybe this is stating the obvious, but just to make my personal opinion clear:

While I do think that it's not as hard as people believe to hide your origin, I also am not confident that's happening here. It's entirely possible that LE does know where those messages came from, but just hasn't released that information publicly. There's obviously a lot about this investigation that they're not telling us, and this could be one of those things.

 

[Chimera]

Would like to know what if anything significant was discussed at the dinner and game night before ?
Also if there was anyone else at the mahjong game outside of family ?

Afaik, the Uber driver was the very last person to see Nancy outside of family.
Did she return home that night for 100 % certainty.

Is it possible there was a crime scene that happened elsewhere and the blood drops were placed at Nancy's house.
All it would take is to extract a bit of blood via syringe from a living person and let it drip at her doorstep thus making LE think Nancy was standing alive outside her home that night.
Jmo.

 

[sony12]

I'm honestly beginning to think that she has been gone for awhile now. Hard to say if the actual kidnappers are the ones communicating with them but I'm beginning to think the family is just being toyed with at this point.

 

[turaj]

Does someone have to be in debt to motivate them to commit a violent crime for money? Could it just be envious of other's lifestyle? Anxiety over future financial resources? Or even someone hating their job and seeing no other career path?

or frustrated that caregiving and managing NG's home fell on them due to proximity? Did not get enough help from siblings? This can happen in families.

 

[ab01]

Interesting! I am guessing it could depend on the app and pacemaker involved? The way some WSers described it sure did seem to be saying there was daily communication to DL data only. If the disconnect message showed up every time the devices were out of range, that could add up to many disconnects during the day if one does not keep the phone close.

Here's a Link to more information for those that are curious.

https://www.medtronic.com/content/dam/medtronic-wide/public/united-states/products/cardiac-vascular/cardiac-rhythm/cardiac-monitoring/mycarelink-heart-app-patient-user-guide.pdf

 

[Sarahlou]

I'm honestly beginning to think that she has been gone for awhile now. Hard to say if the actual kidnappers are the ones communicating with them but I'm beginning to think the family is just being toyed with at this point.

I'd be surprised if she was alive after the day she was taken.

 

[turaj]

I’m sure yesterday there was an update from the Sheriffs office which stated there were NO suspects and NO POIs. If this is the case, the family are victims.

In almost every case like this with this kind of media attention they say this. They will continue to say it until an arrest is made.

 

[Starkville]

I agree...but I find it hard to square (if we're looking at AG and SIL) that they would be dumb enough to make up a fake church call (easily verifiable) and also savvy enough to send this type of ransom note.

According to one theory, perhaps the people who disappeared Nancy are not the same people who are making the ransom demands. JMO.

 

[LAborn]

or frustrated that caregiving and managing NG's home fell on them due to proximity? Did not get enough help from siblings? This can happen in families.

They wouldn't have purchased a home close by if they weren't up for the commitment. Often in families this sort of thing happens, one sibling wants to do it, maybe if they don't have children of their own it's an easier responsibility to take on the day to day. Or they have an affinity to Nancy too.

 

[louvillian08]

No. But why was the call removed from the official timeline? It's a legitimate question, IMO.

For clarity, it was not removed from any timeline. The first, official timeline from Pima Sheriff did not include it. It also didn’t include any other events that were not directly tied to her home.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Agreed. $6M is not worth their time to get in the car.

Agreed.
Going from 1M to 6M seems like young bucks out for a ride, actually...

 

[Nikynoo]

No. But why was the call removed from the official timeline? It's a legitimate question, IMO.

Because perhaps it was not relevant to the timeline they wanted to present, in that the caller was not at Nancys house nor were they in Nancys company before she went missing.

 

[turaj]

They wouldn't have purchased a home close by if they weren't up for the commitment. Often in families this sort of thing happens, one sibling wants to do it, maybe if they don't have children of their own it's an easier responsibility to take on the day to day.

they do have a child and agree it falls to one child often due to proximity. AG has always lived in the area and just as in mine and most families the care of aging parents gets more time consuming and stressful as time goes along. Just putting out random reasons as most are doing on here.

 

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[SMK777]

I agree. And you’ve really gotta just consent for optics, because they’re almost certainly able to get a warrant otherwise.

Fully agree!

 

[sony12]

According to one theory, perhaps the people who disappeared Nancy are not the same people who are making the ransom demands. JMO.

I'm beginning to think this is a strong possibility. This isn't really playing out like a legitimate ransom situation.

 

[Bodhi]

MOO, this really neither confirms nor denies that the camera was outside. I think he was just speaking loosely (as he often has) and covering his bases. I don't think we should put too much weight into this either way.

True, but security cameras on the exterior are documented. The presence of interior cameras is not. Lots of posts in the last few days write as if an interior camera is established as fact. My point is it's possible but not established. IMO it's unlikely because the notification could have been triggered by an animal.

With such a fast-moving thread, speculation about certain things is being repeated so often it is treated as fact. I was responding to a list @Napoli posted by adding an inside camera.

 

[SMK777]

Because perhaps it was not relevant to the timeline they wanted to present, in that the caller was not at Nancys house nor were they in Nancys company before she went missing.

Still seems odd to me. JMO

 

[Nikynoo]

In almost every case like this with this kind of media attention they say this. They will continue to say it until an arrest is made.

Yes, but imo this should change how we speak of the family here. Some of the posts are wild speculation.

 

[tlcya]

For clarity, it was not removed from any timeline. The first, official timeline from Pima Sheriff omitted it.

agree, it was omitted, not removed. And I wonder if that is because authorities have vetted the communication and the communicator and that person deserves anonymity in what almost immediately became a national headline bearing case.

Can you imagine if the press knew who contacted family? They would be camped out on that individuals doorstep harassing them for info and statements, following them to the grocery store and gas station.

Or the authorities feel the communication, has no place on their timeline. They don't do what they do to suit us. MOO if they felt it was relevant it would be there. They do not feel it is important for the public to know who reached out to family or what time.

[edited in the interest of accuracy to remove reference to calls because we haven't been told how the family was contacted by church friend.]