AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I’m sure yesterday there was an update from the Sheriffs office which stated there were NO suspects and NO POIs. If this is the case, the family are victims.
In almost every case like this with this kind of media attention they say this. They will continue to say it until an arrest is made.
 
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I agree...but I find it hard to square (if we're looking at AG and SIL) that they would be dumb enough to make up a fake church call (easily verifiable) and also savvy enough to send this type of ransom note.
According to one theory, perhaps the people who disappeared Nancy are not the same people who are making the ransom demands. JMO.
 
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or frustrated that caregiving and managing NG's home fell on them due to proximity? Did not get enough help from siblings? This can happen in families.
They wouldn't have purchased a home close by if they weren't up for the commitment. Often in families this sort of thing happens, one sibling wants to do it, maybe if they don't have children of their own it's an easier responsibility to take on the day to day. Or they have an affinity to Nancy too.
 
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No. But why was the call removed from the official timeline? It's a legitimate question, IMO.
For clarity, it was not removed from any timeline. The first, official timeline from Pima Sheriff did not include it. It also didn’t include any other events that were not directly tied to her home.
 
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Agreed. $6M is not worth their time to get in the car.
Agreed.
Going from 1M to 6M seems like young bucks out for a ride, actually...
 
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No. But why was the call removed from the official timeline? It's a legitimate question, IMO.
Because perhaps it was not relevant to the timeline they wanted to present, in that the caller was not at Nancys house nor were they in Nancys company before she went missing.
 
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They wouldn't have purchased a home close by if they weren't up for the commitment. Often in families this sort of thing happens, one sibling wants to do it, maybe if they don't have children of their own it's an easier responsibility to take on the day to day.
they do have a child and agree it falls to one child often due to proximity. AG has always lived in the area and just as in mine and most families the care of aging parents gets more time consuming and stressful as time goes along. Just putting out random reasons as most are doing on here.
 
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I agree. And you’ve really gotta just consent for optics, because they’re almost certainly able to get a warrant otherwise.
Fully agree!
 
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According to one theory, perhaps the people who disappeared Nancy are not the same people who are making the ransom demands. JMO.
I'm beginning to think this is a strong possibility. This isn't really playing out like a legitimate ransom situation.
 
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MOO, this really neither confirms nor denies that the camera was outside. I think he was just speaking loosely (as he often has) and covering his bases. I don't think we should put too much weight into this either way.
True, but security cameras on the exterior are documented. The presence of interior cameras is not. Lots of posts in the last few days write as if an interior camera is established as fact. My point is it's possible but not established. IMO it's unlikely because the notification could have been triggered by an animal.

With such a fast-moving thread, speculation about certain things is being repeated so often it is treated as fact. I was responding to a list @Napoli posted by adding an inside camera.
 
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Because perhaps it was not relevant to the timeline they wanted to present, in that the caller was not at Nancys house nor were they in Nancys company before she went missing.
Still seems odd to me. JMO
 
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In almost every case like this with this kind of media attention they say this. They will continue to say it until an arrest is made.
Yes, but imo this should change how we speak of the family here. Some of the posts are wild speculation.
 
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For clarity, it was not removed from any timeline. The first, official timeline from Pima Sheriff omitted it.
agree, it was omitted, not removed. And I wonder if that is because authorities have vetted the communication and the communicator and that person deserves anonymity in what almost immediately became a national headline bearing case.

Can you imagine if the press knew who contacted family? They would be camped out on that individuals doorstep harassing them for info and statements, following them to the grocery store and gas station.

Or the authorities feel the communication, has no place on their timeline. They don't do what they do to suit us. MOO if they felt it was relevant it would be there. They do not feel it is important for the public to know who reached out to family or what time.

[edited in the interest of accuracy to remove reference to calls because we haven't been told how the family was contacted by church friend.]
 
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It’s an extraordinary courtesy if the family (SG included!) isn’t taken to the station to be questioned and make statements, IMO.

IMO, interviews are done “downtown” for many reasons, many of them psychological reasons. It’s easier to place someone under arrest when they’re already surrounded by police, haha. And the interviews can be observed by LE higher-ups and legal counsel, and recorded.

However, I see the advantages of a casual interview on a subject’s home turf. As long as it’s “by the book”, it’s probably the same thing, legally, IMO.

Happy to be corrected if any of this is not accurate!
The casual interview surely have happened more than likely. But to my knowledge we haven't heard of any "downtown" interviews. I would think the media would have learned about that one way or another. Even if, as someone suggested earlier, these interviews have happened in another jurisdiction, I'd still think that would get leaked. So to my thinking, there have been no downtown interviews of any family or acquaintances. I hope that's not the case because we're a week plus in already.
 
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okay things that seem odd.

AG's facial expressions on camera. she looking dissociative or what is going on there?
the immediate involvement of police upon the "church" call.
the area of focus
evidence like blood at the door, unknown roof camera...are odd and not very helpful.

they had plenty of time to rob the house but didn't

I think they have to think hard about remote places other than the home that AG and her husband may be familiar with.

I really believe that if the family did this , they had a helper, because they needed to keep their personal vehicles out of it.
even if they killed her on accident. I think they are searching nearby because the vehicles aren't giving them the evidence thus
LE is searching septic tanks.

mOO
 
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Agreed.
Going from 1M to 6M seems like young bucks out for a ride, actually...
Did it really increase though. TMZ said “millions of dollars,” and I presume that’s the same message received by the other two outlets.

This weekend we learned that amount was $6 million.

So unless I missed something, I don’t think the price has changed.
 
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Maureen O'Connell was on Fox last night... I tried to find just a clip of it but was not able to, so found a youtube with the whole show.

In her segment, she said that the 2nd ransom note said Dear Savannah.

I have no other way to put that info here, so I am biting the bullet and posting the link LOL

(note: she says "samantha" 3 times before correcting herself ;) )

So IF the ransom note is real... is SG the target, whether because of $$$ or some other personal reason?

it is cued up to where she starts talking, but the mention of 'Dear Savannah' is at the 13:00 mark.



Is this something between Savannah and the person who is sending the ransom notes?
 
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I think to say no cartel activity in Tucson is wishful thinking. Of course there is.
Who said that? I must’ve missed it.
 
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What time does Kashy Kash arrive?
 

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