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WS is jammed, or at least my phone is...slower than ever.
 
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I read it was of consent, so no warrant needed
Consent doesn't necessarily mean they didn't get a warrant. It means the residents didn't demand a warrant.
I hope LE get a warrant for every single search, tbh. It could be a problem at trial if they don't.

jmo
 
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Excellent post!
This sheriff's office appears woefully deficient in investigative talent.
Poor Nancy.
And where's the FBI??
It's looking more and more like a cold case that we might still be commenting on ten years from now.

Excellent post!
This sheriff's office appears woefully deficient in investigative talent.
Poor Nancy.
And where's the FBI??
It's looking more and more like a cold case that we might still be commenting on ten years from now.
I respectfully disagree as of now. LE folks (any of the agencies) do not owe public play by play in an investigation. I’m sure it feels like eons to public, but they have a lot to go through. In reality, a week and a half is not a long time in a criminal investigation. I do not believe this will become a cold case. Having every media outlet and you tuber try to get social media attention is making it seem like more information should be out by now. LE owes it to the public if they feel like the public is more unsafe than they already were because of lack of an arrest yet. Otherwise, I actually wish media would leave this case alone for a bit to give LE a chance to do what they need to do to nab the right person/people. Moo
 
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Just wondering if most families only have one car, and if not, where is the other one, and have LE looked at it? Just my opinion.
 
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Anything is possible, but the LE concentration on them is typical of not being able to rule them out. That suggests digital footprints and alibi aren't readily available for either of them.

Couple that with some of the financial entanglements they have with NG and it begins to look like motive.
Are there documented financial entanglements family has with NG that would be a motive, that are known to us?
 
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Residences, plural. Is this an indication to family being involved after all..? Just wondering 🤔
I personally think it's more about their own incompetence.

Do it right the first time and for goodness sakes, if you can't, don't release the scene!
 
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Presumably it was just a dumb camera (Nest) with no ability to record on the actual device. We also know from the doorbell situation that NG did not have a Nest subscription that is required to record the video to the cloud. Essentially meaning those cameras would have only been functioning as live feed cameras, if they were functioning at all.
She had Ring doorbell cam with confirmed no subscription per the Sheriff's press conference (so no cloud recording, no replay, just live view and live push notifications).

She also had Nest cams around but we don't even know if they were charged and do not know the specific sub info on that,.

We're talking about an 84 year old who I believe someone said used them mainly for wildlife viewing and wasn't really on top of it or concerned with actual security.
 
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I don't know if this has been posted, but the anchor woman from KOLD, Mary Coleman, who saw the ransom messages, posted this on her public figure facebook page. Her fb page lists her as "13 News anchor" and her page is specifically classified as "Journalist" with 42K followers (i.e., this is not a private person's page or a journalist's private page). She posted this message on Saturday. "Heart is broken" doesn't sound good coming from someone who read the second letter. Jmo. Take from it what you will.

Mary Coleman ·
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February 7 at 1:01 PM ·

One of the top rules of being a journalist is never becoming the story.
Unfortunately the universe had different plans for us this week. And the responsibility on my shoulders is not lost on me.
Becoming ground zero for the nation’s biggest news right now has been heavy.
That’s the only way to describe what these past few days have been like without bursting into a puddle of tears.
It seems selfish to say, as what I am feeling doesn’t even compare to what the Guthrie family is feeling, but my heart is broken.
I can’t fully articulate much right now, but please pray for Nancy and this family.
So very grateful for all of my friends and family who have reached out and have been supportive. And of course, Brandon has been my rock, and my biggest fan.
Going to try to take a breath this weekend, but will of course keep you updated with any new info I learn.
Sending you all love.
 
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She had Ring doorbell cam with confirmed no subscription per the Sheriff's press conference (so no cloud recording, no replay, just live view and live push notifications).
The doorbell camera was a Nest, not a Ring. This is confirmed by looking at the photos of the bracket (available earlier in this thread). Sorry to keep harping on this but it does make a difference in terms of cloud storage and motion detection (and just in general it's good to try to keep facts straight in a confusing environment).
 
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And folks, we are past 5:00 deadline.....
 
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I personally think it's more about their own incompetence.

Do it right the first time and for goodness sakes, if you can't, don't release the scene!
Yeah good point you got there 😅
 
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