AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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This is what they said on Google about food delivery drivers.
Food delivery drivers on apps like DoorDash and Uber Eats generally do not see a customer's full last name, typically only receiving the first name and last initial (e.g., "John D.") to protect privacy.
What about FedEx, UPS or Amazon Prime drivers?
 
  • #20,822
I'm fully aware they won't release names or hospital information. But I have seen countless posts and news stories which state "one patient was transported by lifesaver helicopter" to a local hospital. Most often these stories are from mva. This isn't my first case or only experience with following closely about news stories. Thank you though.
My opinions based on personal experiences
That's because there is a police report filed in a MVA. Police reports are public record.
If this was a sick person who needed something like ecmo, we won't hear a thing.
 
  • #20,823
I am pretty skeptical this is the guy. I mean, he sounds like he works a regular job delivering packages during the week....albeit in Tuscon, and is home every Fri night thru Monday morning. Also lives with what seems to be a large family including his kids. How would be possibly kidnap someone and hope to keep that hidden from his family while also working a job Mon-Fri?

Seems odd. The only thing that could give him a connection to NG is if delivered packages to her during the week. Otherwise I am thinking, if he is connected, it is him trying to scam the family with the ransom demands.
Yes. CNN reported that 7 people live in that house.

Pretty sure someone would have noticed if he were in and out going to tend to his kidnap victim. And where would he be housing her if he can’t even afford a separate dwelling for his wife and children?
 
  • #20,824
The look through @dannybavaro’s camera as forensics teams take a blue light to the car Pima County Sheriff’s deputies stopped in Rio Rico. Usually used to try to find fingerprints or bodily fluids.

As far as we know investigators still don’t know where Nancy Guthrie is.

 
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I thought she was calling her son in law her son. Close families do that. But maybe I’m wrong
 
  • #20,826
No, the detainee, her son in law's name is similar to his father's. This woman is talking about HER son who was home when LE searched it. People are confusing her son-in-law and her son.
That’s exactly what i said. Why are you correcting me??
 
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The look through @dannybavaro’s camera as forensics teams take a blue light to the car Pima County Sheriff’s deputies stopped in Rio Rico. Usually used to try to find fingerprints or bodily fluids.

As far as we know investigators still don’t know where Nancy Guthrie is.

I’m wondering if they got a tip that he was a driver/accomplice to the man on the videos, or noticed his vehicle on one of the surveillance videos in the right time frame. MOO.
 
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I am pretty skeptical this is the guy. I mean, he sounds like he works a regular job delivering packages during the week....albeit in Tuscon, and is home every Fri night thru Monday morning. Also lives with what seems to be a large family including his kids. How would be possibly kidnap someone and hope to keep that hidden from his family while also working a job Mon-Fri?

Seems odd. The only thing that could give him a connection to NG is if delivered packages to her during the week. Otherwise I am thinking, if he is connected, it is him trying to scam the family with the ransom demands.
He has motive (needs $) and could be one of a few people in on this. Just because he has kids doesn’t mean he can’t be a criminal too. And Nancy might have been or currently be somewhere else besides his house. MOO
 
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I am pretty skeptical this is the guy. I mean, he sounds like he works a regular job delivering packages during the week....albeit in Tuscon, and is home every Fri night thru Monday morning. Also lives with what seems to be a large family including his kids. How would be possibly kidnap someone and hope to keep that hidden from his family while also working a job Mon-Fri?

Seems odd. The only thing that could give him a connection to NG is if delivered packages to her during the week. Otherwise I am thinking, if he is connected, it is him trying to scam the family with the ransom demands.
Lots of criminals (for ex. Serial killers) lead double lives with family then sinister alter ego. Living with a family doesn’t always mean you are Mother Theresa imo
 
  • #20,831
Just my late night thoughts. I wonder if they realized that Nancy needed her medication to live after the fact and she ended up passing. So they decided not to go through with the ransom.
I don't see why they wouldn't. They're already in the frame for manslaughter or whatever, so things couldn't get much worse for them.
 
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I’m wondering if they got a tip that he was a driver/accomplice to the man on the videos, or noticed his vehicle on one of the surveillance videos in the right time frame. MOO.

Im leaning towards the vehicle leading them to him, but thats just speculation.
 
  • #20,833
The news keeps saying it’s a common way of carrying for people in that area, as well as women in general? They’re calling it “Mexican carry”. I’m in PA and have never seen such a thing…
Just asking, but have you been trained about the ways of the Mexican Mafia Cartel?
 
  • #20,834
I thought she was calling her son in law her son. Close families do that. But maybe I’m wrong
They are two different people!

The SIL was out door dashing, got pulled over and detained. He is the POI.

The cops separately have gone to the house. Without the detainee. While searching the house they handcuffed, as a precaution, another young man. The son. Who was then unhandcuffed.
 
  • #20,835
A few points of note (without me injecting my conclusions)

Crypto ransoms take a high degree of skill to pull off. POI would need to understand how to cold store BTC. Not on a hot wallet like Ledger. True cold storage takes sophistication and years of planning (storing keys and sleepy wallets with NO prior transactions). After the ransom is paid, POI would then need to use a crypto mixer like Monero or similar to breakdown the BTC, send it to hundreds of wallets, wash the hashes in thousands of transactions and then recollect the BTC once its been washed. After all that, they’d need a laundering scheme to convert the cleaned crypto into fiat. This person(s) would NOT send notes to the media. They understand anonymity and would avoid hot contact (I.e internet contact)

If you’re confused, you’re not the culprit. That gives a sense for the kind of person or persons skilled enough to pull off a crypto ransom. And that says nothing of the skill to kidnap someone. Those are two very different skill sets that rarely occur in one person.
 
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Lots of criminals (for ex. Serial killers) lead double lives with family then sinister alter ego. Living with a family doesn’t always mean you are Mother Theresa imo
But it does mean your movements and activities are observed by a number of people.
 
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Maybe his cellphone came up on a geofence search of those who had been in area between those hours when nancy disappeared but he was just out there doing door dash...and here we are ~ im just grasping, fwiw.
 
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Yes. CNN reported that 7 people live in that house.

Pretty sure someone would have noticed if he were in and out going to tend to his kidnap victim. And where would he be housing her if he can’t even afford a separate dwelling for his wife and children?
In the broken van?
 
  • #20,840
All of my packages from UPS, Fed Ex, Prime have my full name on them.
I just don't think a package delivery person would think "Oh Savannah Guthrie"....I just don't. I would think Woody Guthrie or Arlo Guthrie. Seriously, package delivery people generally don't watch the Today Show. Now if their last name was like K................, sure they would take notice, but not Guthrie. Honestly, if I knew someone with the last night Guthrie, I wouldn't think of Savannah. I wouldn't think of anything.......It's a common name.
 

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