AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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No. 7 minutes from when the family member arrived at Nancy's house, they called 911.
Here's the timeline established by the Pima County Sheriff and FBI.
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I’m getting confused on these posts. I thought someone was saying that it took NG family an hour to report her missing after arriving at her home so I was replying to that info. Yes your info is correct. Sorry, my bad.
Yes, the reason some were saying it took the family an hour to report her missing was because the sheriff originally MISREPORTED what time the family arrived at her home.

Originally he said they were called about 11 am and arrived at 11:10, then called 911 just before noon.

Recently he changed the timeline and has said they arrived at the house just before noon and called 911 quickly.
 
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Yes, I’m suggesting that she was murdered and didn’t make it home at all, and this is a coverup. Read: staged.

You have no proof at all there is any footage of this person on the camera carrying her out of the house.

You act like you’re part of the FBI but I doubt you can provide evidence
DBM
 
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No. 7 minutes from when the family member arrived at Nancy's house, they called 911.
Here's the timeline established by the Pima County Sheriff and FBI.
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True, but this^^^^ is a NEW timeline. The sheriff originally said the family arrived at the home to check on NG at 11:10 am.
That was incorrect info he was putting out there. LATER he complained that people were taking his statements and details so seriously... :rolleyes:
 
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No. 7 minutes from when the family member arrived at Nancy's house, they called 911.
Here's the timeline established by the Pima County Sheriff and FBI.
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We don't know where LE are getting the 11:56 a.m. time either - at this point.
 
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Yes, the reason some were saying it took the family an hour to report her missing was because the sheriff originally MISREPORTED what time the family arrived at her home.

Originally he said they were called about 11 am and arrived at 11:10, then called 911 just before noon.

Recently he changed the timeline and has said they arrived at the house just before noon and called 911 quickly.
Honestly all the misreporting, conflicting information and now this recent detainment is such a mess. I was hoping they had more than it appears but it's seeming like they have no idea as to what happened that night. Jmo.
 
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NG had birthday days prior to 1/31/26. So are you saying something like this is appropriate, "Hi Mom, we want to honor your birthday but we can't drive 10 mins to pick you up. Call Uber and get your own ride to our house 4 miles away. But don't worry, we will give you 2 mins to get from car to inside your garage around 9:48pm. Happy Birthday Mom." Despicable behavior imo if NG had to get her own transportation to a family neighborhood like dinner.

The family did what worked for them. We don't know the reason, we aren't entitled to know the reason, Nancy took a rideshare. It is established she did and that she arrived safely at her daughter's house as planned. That's not even in question.
 
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Honestly all the misreporting, conflicting information and now this recent arrest is such a mess. I was hoping they had more than it appears but it's seeming like they have no idea as to what happened that night. Jmo.
DBM
 
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What arrest? 😳
Detained sorry. I'll edit my post.
 
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We don't know where LE are getting the 11:56 a.m. time either - at this point.
It's pretty easy for them to know what time the 911 call happened. They had that accurately from the start. It was the other time that was reported incorrectly---the time they arrived at Nancy's house.

And that made them look sketchy. And it seemed sketchy it took so long to call 911 but that was inaccurate info. And seemed sketchy that first it was reported that NG's daughter gave her a ride home but was later changed to say her SIL was the last to see her---again, it looked sketchy. But now it's back to daughter driving her home?
 
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Some info on guy who was detained and released. This article has interview with mother in law guy who was detained "Carlos"- said his white van is broken (as of a couple days ago) couldn't be him and he is living with her due to being evicted. So this makes me think they are focusing on the previously mentioned white van.

 
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Those cameras have little IR flashlights, thats why the it reflects like a light on the reflective parts of the back pack. He does not have a flashlight in his mouth, you'd see it more. He has a gold or diamond insert on his tooth. Something that would reflect the IR light back just like the backpack did.
If you watch the video of him approaching the steps he uses a flashlight in his mouth to see the steps
 
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We don't know where LE are getting the 11:56 a.m. time either - at this point.
Everything else in the timeline released comes from electronic data--phone logs, garage door opening, car data. LE has determined what time the family member arrived and when the call to 911 was made.
 
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It's pretty easy for them to know what time the 911 call happened. They had that accurately from the start. It was the other time that was reported incorrectly---the time they arrived at Nancy's house.

And that made them look sketchy.

Agreed but the 911 call happened 7 minutes later. I am just wondering what source they have for the time of 11:56 a.m. to say that that is indeed when the family began to look for Nancy.
Was that cell phone data, a call from the church friend etc.?
 
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NG had birthday days prior to 1/31/26. So are you saying something like this is appropriate, "Hi Mom, we want to honor your birthday but we can't drive 10 mins to pick you up. Call Uber and get your own ride to our house 4 miles away. But don't worry, we will give you 2 mins to get from car to inside your garage around 9:48pm. Happy Birthday Mom." Despicable behavior imo if NG had to get her own transportation to a family neighborhood like dinner.
I don't think this is the case. It's important to remember that NG has capacity and agency to make her own decisions. This doesn't equate to the family being cruel or disrespectful just because NG got an Uber. Jmo.
 
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Seems odd that we have never heard what time TC returned home after dropping NG off on the night of the abduction.
 
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So many apps these days that are linked to your apple watch. It can tell when your sleeping. Heart rate monitor, sleep monitoring, and step counter are a couple things. I'm sure LE has looked at all that.
 

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