AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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What the?
It’s a genuine suggestion. The OP claimed no tyre tracks were found in the area and they wouldn’t have walked with her limited mobility.
 
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I don't think the reporters should have been all up in her business clearly taking advantage like that.

But at least we the public got to see yet again how LE swoops in and disrupts and traumatizes people's lives, and destroys property.
It is my understanding that LE had a warrant, is that not the case? And Nancy Guthrie could have been behind that door. If they had a warrant, they had every right to get in there and try to find her, time is of the essence in this case.
 
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Is it possible the suspects used a private helicopter to move Nancy?
The realm of possibilities are endless. Lets focus on what WE DO KNOW.
 
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Someone early on said something about a wheelbarrow. I thought it was ridiculous but after seeing the makeshift blocker with the flowers, anything is possible in this case I guess.
Easy for one person to move a person unconscious/no longer alive. I don't even want to follow that train of thought.
 
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Thank you for these very interesting insights! If he is merely a money mule, could his electronic devices still be useful in catching the kidnappers?
If he is a money mule then his electronic activity might connect him to the next layer but that would still be many layers from the real criminals. Like I said, it's a start. But that's about it.
 
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IMO, TMZ has been nothing but a distraction here. Amplifying the voices of internet randoms looking for fame or a buck.

With regard to robbery being the motive, why would anyone rob someone that old at 2 in the morning? They had to know she would be home. And she was out for a few hours earlier that day so they could have broken in, taken what they wanted with much less risk of escalation.
 
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I think the one he has on is old navy or something similar. I’ve owned those with reflector strips before.
I believe the reflective stripes are on the backpack, not the coat. MOO 🤷‍♀️
 
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The horizontal stripe is likely the cheststrap of the backpack
No, you can see the unbuckled sternum strap. The stripe is part of the fleece jacket.
 
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Ooops sorry 1/2 a football field. Still a good distance.

Not really, imo. Not far at all and limits activities for a mentally able women in constant pain with lots of interests.

My mom was about the same but at the farmers market, the mall, museums, art shows or festivals we used it. Don't want them getting tired and falling and there is not always places to sit handy.

That's why the transport chairs for active people with limited mobility are sold at hospital gift shops, pharmacy's and of course on line.

all imo
 
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I hate thinking it too, but I think you're right. There's a reason LE keeps searching around both residences/neighborhoods over and over. They seem to think she's nearby and so do I. IMO
Are they using dogs right now? That would make the most sense.
Or they could be trying to spook the perpetrator.
 
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The bizarre part of his story to me is that he says the police were following the car that his wife was driving. His wife pulled over the car and he got out of the passenger side before the police ever turned on their lights? Who does that?
Law Enforcement does that.
 
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High profile celebrity case = nutjobs / scammers trying to gain from the hype imo

How likely is an 84 year old with a pacemaker to have a heart attack from the onset of panic induced by this masked and armed man breaking into her home . What's the balance of probability?

I don't think this was a kidnapping per se , I think it was a robbery resulting in a death of home owner

Perp may have previous for breaking and entering but manslaughter/ homicide wasn't on his bingo card of charges he was willing to take .so he concealed her body

The desert is expansive so plenty of area in which to conceal

This was not a kidnapping done with military precision, with a fine tuned operation from kidnap to demand , perp had to improvise , flowers/ plants from scene used , torch was held in his mouth ,which then transfers spittle onto glove when placing it back in a pocket

The bulk in his backpack could very well be a larger hold all for the loot he expected to gain

Jmo and imo
This is the closest summary I've seen to what I think happened. Great post!

All IMO/MOO.

Someone mentioned DNA shedding/new clothing - I just don't think this person was that sophisticated (also IMO/MOO).
 
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I still don't think that blood is related to the crime. Meaning, she could have lost a few drops of blood at any time, with her elderly skin being so thin and all. It's entirely possible the police only mentioned the blood because the journalist, BE, went up to the front door, saw the blood, and reported on it. That should have never happened. LE should have never let anyone near that house. Because we know the blood is NG's, and if LE thinks it was deposited there during the crime, then BE basically tampered (unknowingly) with the crime scene.

IMO
Few drops? It's a veritable pool.
 
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Agreed.
Walking somewhat stiffly, it would appear ?
At first I thought it was a bow-legged saunter, but more like moving slowly due to padded layers of clothing ?
Wonder if the person is a woman ?
Hmmm.
Omo.
I think it’s definitely a woman!
 

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