AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[m00c0w]

Well, if I may put on my bad guy hat for a second. I'd still rather have $6m sitting in a crypto wallet than not. Laundering it slowly over the course of your life is doable and won't raise any flags if you are okay with doing it in small chunks. You won't be living in a mansion or driving a lambo next week, but you won't ever need to work again.

I did think about this, but the issue is that wallet is now forever tainted. It will be monitored and each withdrawal/transfer will be closely scrutinized for the rest of your life.

One would theoretically want to move everything out of the wallet as quickly as possible to somewhere as secure and anonymous as possible. That’s where the big issues come in.

 

[birdbox]

What does this have to do with the topic in hand?

Bear with me on this…

I am in a habit now of not using the actual “pads” of my fingers to touch communal buttons because of germs and behaviors learned during COVID times. Instead, I’ll use a knuckle to hit an elevator button or whatever it is.

The way this looks to me is like the person is absentmindedly going to hit the doorbell with the side of their hand like they maybe are accustomed to doing and then the lightbulb clicked that the doorbell is also a camera recording what he’s doing… and he basically short-circuited for a minute while trying to walk through the next steps. And lantana is what they came up with…

JMO

Im just not getting meticulous vibe.

 

[lilyk]

My maybe silly idea (I posted this before) was that a bug like a black widow spider was there, so he needed something to brush it away.

Nope. And yes that's a silly idea because he never brushed anything away. He literally placed and held his hand directly over the lens with the lantana while trying to remove the camera with his other hand. Common sense / Occam's razor says he was simply trying to hide himself from being recorded while directly facing the camera that he could no longer look away from.

 

[Der Detektiv]

No. He’s been in Italy last I saw. But please IMO this has nothing to do with this

The OP was joking.

 

[Wsimm]

I’ve been wondering that same thing for a while.

NG entered her home through the garage. The garage is located on the right side of the front door (side of house). Out of this particular cameras view.

 

[twall]

If the backpack is truly from Walmart, that would be something. How many times have we seen footage of criminals buying their gear at Walmart?

A lot. Angela Wagner (Pike County OH Rhoden family massacre) and her shoes purchase comes to mind. They have great record keeping and surveillance cameras.

 

[easternbayou]

Well he didn’t do a good job did he!

My guess is not a professional. Someone the murderer knew and willing to do it. Mistakes were made. Never said they did a good job.

 

[HerNameWasBuffy]

Also, IMO, even if the perp doesn't have a good plan for cashing it out, I don't think this definitively means it's not real. I am sure there have been criminals who have used bitcoin without a complete understanding of how to launder it. Being bad at cryptocurrency does not immediately imply hoax to me, IMHO.

Initially TMZ was saying LE was taking it seriously due to the reference of the location of her Apple watch. HL said it was not in a location you'd intuitively jump to. If not for that I'd write it off as a hoax, but if they really did have inside info I'm back to square one.

 

[whatzthebuzz]

I'm not sleuthing anyone in particular. I'm trying to get a handle on all the adults in this family. For instance, does NG have brothers and sisters? Nieces, nephews? Adult grandchildren?

LE is intensely focused on AG/TCs house. If they are not interested specifically in AG/TC are there other adult relatives that come and go from there? They are interested in that house for a reason. IMO

Oh you're going to have me adding yet another tree to my online family tree collection at this rate (and I have already run out of fingers and toes to count them!).

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021771168563265953

 

[HoveringWombats]

Also, where is the footage of Nancy arriving to her home from earlier in the evening???

If they had this video, why would they release it? They released the videos they did because they contained images of an alleged perpetrator. They're not going to release every video they have; only the ones that have information they want the public to get. I don't think any conclusions at all can be drawn from videos that we don't know if they have, and they probably wouldn't release if they did.

 

[dogmom805]

I hope they’ve investigated the man that has seemingly showed up to the scene twice (correct me if I’m mistake ). He said he lives 15 minutes or miles away. Really wanted to direct blame to the SIL. I think he was in both the sisters neighborhood and Mrs. Guthrie’s neighborhood.

Link??

 

[CrimeReporter]

Or mentally ill/Schizophrenic

I don't think we can rule out some type of mental illness. A person who has some form of mental illness might live on the streets or in the wilderness or wherever, or might be transient. Such a person might carry a backpack, and might keep gloves/mask for committing crimes of opportunity.
This type of person might not have a phone or vehicle -- two of the items that often lead to suspects. He's off-grid, and maybe a little lucky.
Maybe something goes wrong during a break-in or home invasion and, not thinking clearly, he removes the body or walks her a short distance. Might be why LE continues searching the immediate area.
The whole kidnapping thing just seems too exotic and uncommon. It's so incredibly rare. The ransom business, I suspect, may be the work of an opportunist. This theory, or some variation, might explain why a ransom hasn't been paid, as far as we know.

 

[fridaybaker]

IMO

Is it possible this is just a random crime. All siblings saw the video and didn't recognize the person. Of course it's not a great video but enough to recognize I think. They are not getting caught because everyone is looking in the wrong direction because of SG. CNN said backpack was identified.

But maybe they did recognize the person…

 

[Data Sleuth]

Looks like too many people on here are overly tired at this point and some continue to post gibberish. Pleading with the Mods to shutdown this feed overnight to let folks settle down for a few hours.

 

[submarine7]

They don't send a SWAT team or get a warrant to search a house because of a tip of the person apprehended last night looking similar to this person. IMO LE had to have had other convincing concerns and information about this person (e.g. their movements, their vehicles, their cell phone activity, pings by NG's house while delivering packages, relative saying they were acting suspicious, etc) for a judge to okay the warrant and for the SWAT team to be deployed. JMHO

I agree. He's connected somehow.

 

[janell44]

NG entered her home through the garage. The garage is located on the right side of the front door (side of house). Out of this particular cameras view.

I’m still not 100% convinced the SIL dropped her off at her home. Wondering if he has an alibi from the time he allegedly dropped her off until the next day when it was reported.

 

[osu]

dbm

 

[SlimPickens]

BBM

Do you mind posting a link to LE stating he's been cleared?

I read it here earlier today, which is why I said it was my understanding. If he wasn't cleared then I suppose that technically leaves him in the game, but now he's just one of those old guys who comes off the bench from time to time to light it up until the next timeout, but he's not a franchise player anymore.

JMO.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Sources tell Fox News that One Set of Gloves is being processed from the area.

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: New letter to TMZ claims to know who kidnapper is

TMZ host Harvey Levin told Fox News' “America’s Newsroom” on Wednesday that his outlet received a third alleged letter claiming to know who Nancy Guthrie's alleged kidnapper is.

www.foxnews.com