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Gloves found at Guthrie's house are being sent out for testing, the Pima County Sheriff's Department said in a statement this afternoon.

The department said "several items of evidence" were found at the residence, but provided no details beyond the gloves.
This seems promising. I thought maybe it was a typo, but the link rephrases it and it's clear that the gloves were found AT the house, not just random ones that were found discarded off the side of the road.
 
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“The note also referenced two specific details inside the Guthrie home: a white smartwatch at the foot of a bed and a white backyard floodlight that the sender claimed was destroyed.”

It seems that the only individuals who could possibly know this information would be 1.) the perp, 2.) those who first came to the house to check on NG, and 3.) LE investigators (incl forensics, photographer, etc) at the crime scene

Jmo
 
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I was referring to this article which states;

"Gloves found at Guthrie's house are being sent out for testing, the Pima County Sheriff's Department said in a statement this afternoon.
The department said "several items of evidence" were found at the residence, but provided no details beyond the gloves.
The news comes after multiple reports that a nylon glove was found at the home."

I think that was probably a mistake since I can't find anything from other sources on this. JMO
 
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According to their report, the e-mail came from a person who claims to know the identity of Nancy's kidnapper. The e-mail was received by TMZ just after 9:00 a.m. Arizona time.

The person who sent the e-mail, per TMZ, claimed that they are "not being taken seriously," and made ominous statements.


"TMZ is cooperating with law enforcement by not disclosing specifics," read a portion of the article.

Per the report, the person explained why he wants a bitcoin, saying that they will "need money to lay low after identifying the kidnapper for fear of retaliation," and worries he might be "incriminated like that Carlos guy," referring to a person of interest who was detained and subsequently released.

The e-mail, per TMZ, ends with the person saying this is their final attempt to help.

According to the report, this e-mail came just one day after an e-mail asked for 1 bitcoin in return for the kidnapper's name
 
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I think ime that for some people/families tend to do it more than others even those not necessarily wealthy. In my circle I have known some people who everyone in their family has an alarm setting in their home. It wasn't a thing for anyone in my family and I honestly wish my parents would as they get older and do have people come to do wok on the home :(
With more people ordering on-line, it may be a deterrent from folks taking delivered items off your porch. My next-door neighbors have timed lights when they are away from home. They’ve never mentioned it, but it is obvious to the neighbors who can see their house.
 
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This seems promising. I thought maybe it was a typo, but the link rephrases it and it's clear that the gloves were found AT the house, not just random ones that were found discarded off the side of the road.
To me this is a major blunder from LE that they only found these items today.
I'm glad they finally did and they are being processed but this should have been done from the beginning - JMO
 
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Click the link posted above, under the heading “Gloves found at Guthrie residence, sheriff’s department says”

How in the world were these gloves only found today? This makes zero sense to me. i’m assuming they were found when that white tent went up at NG’s front door. How long was that tent up? My impression was that it wasn’t long. Is there any possibilty they were found around the threshold of her door? In one of the photos of the blood drops close to the door, you can see gravel on the tiles. Like the people had stepped on the gravel or maybe lost their footing in that area? Perhaps a gloves was somehow initially missed in that area? This story is getting more and more odd.
This could easily of been planted there as a diversion. Honestly, you would have to be pretty dumb to throw a glove outside your car that you used in a crime. Or a troll could’ve done it, just to be stupid. After all, it was found after the camera footage was released.
 
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You've got to be kidding me 🤦‍♀️
Why are they BLASTING every single bit of info they get. Good grief! School will be letting out soon too. Watch out kids!
 
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I think that was probably a mistake since I can't find anything from other sources on this. JMO
Yesterday they reported a specific intersection.
 
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Seems incredibly unlikely IMO and I don’t see the point in hiring people to abscond with your mother or MIL. It complicates things for any sort of monetary gain. JMO.
Fair enough.

Still seems like an odd thing for some random perp to commit; with no clear and sure-fire way of reaping the monetary reward ?
If it was a planned random kidnapper, one would assume they'd have contacted the family only and said do not go public with this-- hand us the $$ and she'll be released in an hour or so.
Some scenario like that ?
Jmo.
 
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This could easily of been planted there as a diversion. Honestly, you would have to be pretty dumb to throw a glove outside your car that you used in a crime.

Click on the link in the article, from NBC. It says the glove was found in her home. This is not the glove from the road. The article was posted today.
 
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Fair enough.

Still seems like an odd thing for some random perp to commit; with no clear and sure-fire way of reaping the monetary reward ?
If it was a planned random kidnapper, one would assume they'd have contacted the family only and said do not go public with this-- hand us the $$ and she'll be released in an hour or so.
Some scenario like that ?
Jmo.
Yeah. Not much seems normal in this case unfortunately.
 
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The white tent was erected hastily and stayed up for about an hour as investigators gathered evidence in secret. The only discernible difference when the tent came down was the missing bracket that once held a Nest camera a masked suspect was caught tampering with, according to footage released earlier this week.
 
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It's been established the notes are real.
Well I believe they are real notes sent to local news stations and TMZ. We don't know if they truly are from the kidnapper.

Highlights one of the internal conflicts I have with this case. If you’d told me a few weeks ago that I’d be listening to Ashleigh Banfield, Harvey Levin and – especially – Megyn Kelly for hours (while doing other things, thankfully), I’d have laughed. And yet…
Same. It's can't listen to some of these people on other topics or my head explodes. But when they are talking about true crime, victims, timelines, bringing on intelligent guests, and asking good questions, I think coverage has actually been very good.
 
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Is it possible LE entered the house today while the tent was up and found these gloves? Otherwise I’m surprised media didn’t see this happen.
 
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According to their report, the e-mail came from a person who claims to know the identity of Nancy's kidnapper. The e-mail was received by TMZ just after 9:00 a.m. Arizona time.

The person who sent the e-mail, per TMZ, claimed that they are "not being taken seriously," and made ominous statements.


"TMZ is cooperating with law enforcement by not disclosing specifics," read a portion of the article.

Per the report, the person explained why he wants a bitcoin, saying that they will "need money to lay low after identifying the kidnapper for fear of retaliation," and worries he might be "incriminated like that Carlos guy," referring to a person of interest who was detained and subsequently released.

The e-mail, per TMZ, ends with the person saying this is their final attempt to help.

According to the report, this e-mail came just one day after an e-mail asked for 1 bitcoin in return for the kidnapper's name
If this person truely knows who the kidnapper is (which I doubt) and isn't telling LE, then they absolutely will be incriminated. Most likely an accessory after the fact.
 
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Click on the link in the article, from NBC. It says the glove was found today in her home. This is not the glove from the road.
Oh! Ok, I didn’t see that. Dang gloves galore!!
I have very little faith that this case was handled properly from the get go. The didn’t even set up a perimeter or canvas the area until a week later it seems. If reporters can go to the door, that’s a problem!
 
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