Absoluterubbish
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Thanks. I have just rewatched through the link provided and I do see a hood?
Thanks. I have just rewatched through the link provided and I do see a hood?
It would make much more sense if it's a typo and they actually want footage starting on Jan 31, but who knowsAnd for a whole month?! It says Jan 1 to Feb 1. Unless that is a typo (which is crazy).
It was written earlier in the thread by a local that Tucson is a high-crime area and men with backpacks aren’t an uncommon sight.IMO it would be a huge coincidence (and very disconcerting!) if two different people with backpacks, etc were out and about in the middle of the night around the same time and fairly close distance. I’m leaning towards both being involved. One approached the door, one was a lookout, driver, etc.
IMO that has nothing to do with any of thisI disagree. Just 5 miles south of Nancy's house is one of Tucson's poorest areas
Men with backpacks aren't an uncommon sight anywhere in Tucson. By the U of A, by Pima college, Downtown, pretty much anywhere many men carry backpacks.It was written earlier in the thread by a local that Tucson is a high-crime area and men with backpacks aren’t an uncommon sight.
I am not finding any NBC article stating that gloves found AT the home are being tested. Source?
I think the two backpacks, in the middle of the night, and not being able to unlock the gate, altogether is most suspicious, but I also agree it could be totally unrelated/related to a different crime.It was written earlier in the thread by a local that Tucson is a high-crime area and men with backpacks aren’t an uncommon sight.
I don’t think soDoes the guy in the NG ring cam video have a hood on his jacket? I have tried to find the video again for ages to no avail.
I have been wondering the same thing! Years ago the famous baseball player Cal Ripken's mother was abducted. Her kidnapper drove her around for a day before finally dropping her back off at home, unharmed. No ransom, no demands, nothing. They still don't know who did it, but a popular theory is that he tried to abduct a random old lady to get some cash, but started freaking out when he saw on the news that he'd abducted the mother of one of Baltimore's most beloved celebrities.A thought came to me and I haven’t seen this idea discussed anywhere else.
What if this whole thing did in fact start as a regular old random robbery/break in? Perhaps the guy knew an old lady lived there but nothing more. Then in the process, the bad guy learned about the “rich and famous” daughter and he pivoted to a stupid spur of the moment kidnap/ransom idea.
Say he comes in, finds Nancy, and starts demanding cash but she doesn’t have any to give him. He has a gun and Nancy panics. What if she says hey don’t hurt me, my daughter is on tv and can get you money. We can work this out.
Then the wheels start turning and this fool thinks hey, I could do a kidnap/ransom and get big $$$He’s a bumbling fool though and didn’t think any of it through. He has no idea how to contact the family with his ransom demand so he contacts the news.
I don't know. You can see he is carrying that pistol on his waist in the front. You can see it best at seconds 10-11 in the video when he turns and something (the gun holster) swings out in front of his waist. I, too, think the body types look different, but carrying that gun in the front like that is unusual and unique.I don't think the man in the TMZ video is the same as the man in Nancy's camera video because even though Nancy's camera video is in black and white, you can tell the backpack is a lighter color than the coat. And in TMZ's video, it's the opposite. The backpack is black and the coat is a lighter color.
I am not finding any NBC article stating that gloves found AT the home are being tested. Source?
Found this:I am not finding any NBC article stating that gloves found AT the home are being tested. Source?
I don’t think it was a robbery, JMO.As I said elsewhere just now. Unless there is more than one robber. One guy carries the tools of the trade to do the robbery. Others have the empty backpacks.
Thread keeps rehashing old news. Tired of reading about cameras and how the person dressed. Maybe it would be helpful to have a NG Current News Thread.
Yes, it was written in the article-Does not say when they were found in the home however. I’m posting this for the last time, as I don’t want to contribute to the volume in this thread. But here is the link.
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Gloves found at Guthrie residence, sheriff’s department says
Gloves found at Guthrie's house are being sent out for testing, the Pima County Sheriff's Department said in a statement this afternoon.www.nbcnews.com
If so, why not just murder her in the house and leave the body? Makes no sense to remove the body.I don’t think it was a robbery, JMO.
I think the bag was full because of rope, gag, body bag, to get her out of the house more easily.
I’ve moved away from the ransom/ kidnapper theory. I think the ransom people were just opportunists. No proof of life, etc.
I think, someone wanted her gone, ( dead, sorry) but why?
Bbm.
There's either something else LE are looking for, or maybe they're not satisfied with what was shown to them ?
Anything deleted that would have to be unearthed via a tech forensics specialist, etc. ?
Omo.