• #25,961
Have you seen that video from Ring Neighbors?

That man looks similar to the POI in the videos released by LE imo.

Spotted by a neighbor's camera in Tucson on 01/23/26:
"This guy appeared in front yard about 3:30 am and then returned about 5:00 am. My dogs went crazy barking and thankfully spooked him away. I didn’t answer the door. Anyone else see him in area of 6th between Campbell and Tucson blvd?"
Omg! I can definitely see a resemblance with the video footage of the suspect. And he does the same thing of trying to touch or briefly cover the camera. I hope they’ve submitted it to LE.
 
  • #25,962

Has this video already been posted? It's from a neighbor's Ring camera on 1/23/26
Yet they're clearly not bothered about showing their face. Does anyone know what the crime rate is in this area of AZ?
 
  • #25,963
Edit - finally found a link to news of the single glove found inside Nancy's residence -

TUCSON, Ariz. (NewsNation) — An FBI official tells NewsNation that Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos is blocking federal agents from accessing key evidence in the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, hindering the bureau’s ability to assist in the case.

The evidence includes a glove discovered inside Nancy Guthrie’s home and DNA samples — described as “basically all the evidence” in the case so far, according to the FBI source.

 
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A glove found more than a mile away from Nancy's property is not exactly laying around her house.
I'm pretty sure they are talking about a report of a glove actually being found in NG's house.
 
  • #25,965
What was the motive of this crime? As time goes on, I am struggling to see it being financial. Was this a chance burglary which NG disturbed and was killed/died in the process? I do not believe NG would answer the door at that time of night. Did the perpetrator panic as this wasn't the original plan and there was the risk of identification. In which case, what would they do with the body - there must've been more than one to help ...

I am also struggling to see this being a family member - especially after the release of the doorstep footage. This would have to be some incredible cover up at an emotionally charged time, if someone went to her door, knowing she was already gone. Unnecessary too, as you wouldn't think Nest had any footage.

I am inclined to believe the ransom notes were all fake, otherwise why wouldn't they have provided some sort of proof of life or indeed death. SG had said they would pay ... The timing was also questionable receiving the notes IMO.

So what are we left with? A worker who had visited the house and NG and had some knowledge of it? Why? Someone wanting to hurt SG? An organised gang [why?]

I am interested in everyones thought at this point. I've gone through every scenario in my head! In asking for doorbell footage from early January, do we understand LE are considering this may have been planned ahead, or part of a wider network of crime?
Someone may have originally intended to kidnap NG for ransom, and it went badly. Lacking any way to provide proof of life they may have taken her away to try to cover up their crime. After that, there may have been others who had nothing to do with the crime and no insider knowledge, but took the opportunity to make ransom demands.
 
  • #25,966
Yet they're clearly not bothered about showing their face. Does anyone know what the crime rate is in this area of AZ?
Everyone is saying “neighbor” but this is pretty far from NG. Much closer to the U of A where there’s a lot more foot traffic and a homeless population. Crime rate is much higher in this part of town than the foothills. MOO
 
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  • #25,968
The glove was found outside during the searching of the area. There was video from one of the news stations of it happening. It could be anyone's lost glove.
There was a glove found inside the house apparently.
 
  • #25,969
Probably a good thing he destroyed the camera. There is a significant chance that Google was able to recover these videos because of the destruction process meant video wasn't recorded over.

Niiiiiice.

(Although I kinda hate that he publicly put that out there now…)

moo
 
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This is purely heresay that was taken from a BE video and article, but apparently the sheriff had a very public issue with the feds over a decade ago. I don't recall any further details but it was a case of feds working with SO and it got very ugly and very public. The former Undersheriff suggested that was part of his motive.
You are probably referring to the investigation over Congresswoman Gabby Giffords shooting in Tucson in 2011. The PCSO investigated with FBI support and ultimately found the perpetrator who is now in federal prisona for life. Sheriff was Clarence Dupnik, PC Sheriff since 1980. His chief deputy was the current sheriff, or maybe his predecessor who was later fired and replaced by Nanos. Gabby is the wife of Senator Mark Kelly who has been mentioned upthread. I had mutual close personal friends with Gabby at the time and had met her a few times.

I don't recall any serious rifts with the PCSO and FBI that became public. Dupnik took some heat when he called for political civility at the time as I recall.

Pima County does not have Undersheriffs as far as I know.

Link: Just personal recollections as a resident with close connections to the victim at the time.
 
  • #25,972
But this guy isn't just a stranger in a mask abducting an old lady from her home. He is a stranger in a mask who evidently sent untraceable emails to various media outlets demanding a substantial ransom be paid to a cryptocurrency account. A stranger in a mask who has not only avoided capture and arrest due to an obvious lack of identifying physical evidence at the scene, but also a stranger in a mask who has avoided capture and arrest due an obvious lack of identifying digital evidence online, which is pretty remarkable by today's investigatory standards.

At 12-13 days in, I'd say he has thus far committed a 'hot shower with pumice loofah' crime. But perfectly clean? That remains to be seen. Unfortunately I kind of like his odds without an obvious and identifying mistake so far.

JMO.
It may be that the guy (or group) who abducted NG are different from the people who sent the ransom demands.

JMO
 
  • #25,973
A glove found more than a mile away from Nancy's property is not exactly laying around her house.
I'm talking about the one they found inside the house.
 
  • #25,974
Have you seen that video from Ring Neighbors?

That man looks similar to the POI in the videos released by LE imo.

Spotted by a neighbor's camera in Tucson on 01/23/26:
"This guy appeared in front yard about 3:30 am and then returned about 5:00 am. My dogs went crazy barking and thankfully spooked him away. I didn’t answer the door. Anyone else see him in area of 6th between Campbell and Tucson blvd?"
The guy in that Ring video looks scary. He must have been bending so he couldn't be seen through the peephole. Has a big tattoo on his neck.
He looks similar to the composite, this Houston sketch artist drew up, from Nancy's porch surveillance.

 
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It may be that the guy (or group) who abducted NG are different from the people who sent the ransom demands.

JMO
Right. The ransom letters may have all been opportunists.
 
  • #25,976
Yes, but the probable cause to get a warrant for a sample is based on very weak evidence imo. I'm not saying it should be outlawed, just that I think most decisions judges are making about it are based on ignorance or outright misrepresentation by prosecutors.

It's kind of like :

Your honor, most white guys drink. We believe xxx drinks because his father has a dui.

We'd like to stop and test xxx based on his genetic connection to a criminal.

Now, the thing is, in that situation the judge is likely to see through the argument. But throw in DNA...
I think in such cases they can get a sample from a public place, eg discarded coffee cup, etc, no need for warrant.

JMO
 
  • #25,977
How do we know DC, the hoaxer, was a hoaxer? Could he have been the masked intruder or one of a team?
 
  • #25,978
How do we know DC, the hoaxer, was a hoaxer? Could he have been the masked intruder or one of a team?
DC lives in California and was tracked down very quickly by the FBI because the way he tried to cover his tracks was sloppy. FBI probably checked his activity around the time of the kidnapping when they arrested him. If there was a connection, we'd know at this point and the case would be looking very different.

JMO.
 
  • #25,979
Have you seen that video from Ring Neighbors?

That man looks similar to the POI in the videos released by LE imo.

Spotted by a neighbor's camera in Tucson on 01/23/26:
"This guy appeared in front yard about 3:30 am and then returned about 5:00 am. My dogs went crazy barking and thankfully spooked him away. I didn’t answer the door. Anyone else see him in area of 6th between Campbell and Tucson blvd?"
Oh…wow….absolutely can see the resemblance to the POI (as much as we can tell with a mask and different angles.)

Please tell me that neighbor has sent this in to LE

moo
 
  • #25,980
Yet they're clearly not bothered about showing their face. Does anyone know what the crime rate is in this area of AZ?
This is within spitting distance of the university. It’s called the Sam Hughes historical district. Spotty but expensive due to proximity to school. Not close to Catalina foothills. Not sure if you mean crime rate of Tucson or this specific area but generally there would be more crime in this area (also closer to downtown and south Tucson which is considered less desirable) than in Catalina foothills.
 

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