GUILTY NC - PFC Kelli Bordeaux, 23, Fayetteville, 14 April 2012 - #11

[sundrop]

For this case to take a turn, then either someone must confess or Kelli's body has to be found. If her body is ever found, that could likely indicate who the suspect is.

 

[reedus23]

For this case to take a turn, then either someone must confess or Kelli's body has to be found. If her body is ever found, that could likely indicate who the suspect is.

Maybe I'm in a glass half empty mood today but I don't even know if finding her body will help lead to a suspect. I'm just not sure what would lead to a suspect unless he left DNA/evidence with her. Location alone I don't think would be enough in and of itself. The body, even if it showed means of death, I don't think is going to point to one person to the exclusion of others. I hope LE has more.

 

[sundrop]

Well, if the body is found, for example, in Florida then Nick is most likely not guilty.

Maybe I'm in a glass half empty mood today but I don't even know if finding her body will help lead to a suspect. I'm just not sure what would lead to a suspect unless he left DNA/evidence with her. Location alone I don't think would be enough in and of itself. The body, even if it showed means of death, I don't think is going to point to one person to the exclusion of others. I hope LE has more.

 

[Tonto]

What's Nick's address now? Is it a residence or halfway house?

 

[sundrop]

Here's the link to new information about Nick. The house he is staying is not in a good area. I don't know if it is a halfway house or not. He's off probation Feb. 2014.

http://sexoffender.ncdoj.gov/details.aspx?SRN=016529S3

What's Nick's address now? Is it a residence or halfway house?

 

[reedus23]

Well, if the body is found, for example, in Florida then Nick is most likely not guilty.

Very true. I thought of that after I logged off. If she was found on the property of one of the "players", then it might actually point to someone. Otherwise, the best I could imagine is that it eliminates POI's.

 

[Tonto]

I think I would be looking at where he is staying now considering its proximity to FB and Kellie's crib. It could be friends or family that he knew at the time and is now living with them. What if that's where he took her? Lots of woods and looks like there's a creek or something nearby.

 

[VOH910]

Here's the link to new information about Nick. The house he is staying is not in a good area. I don't know if it is a halfway house or not. He's off probation Feb. 2014.

http://sexoffender.ncdoj.gov/details.aspx?SRN=016529S3

I'm not sure if it is or isn't. The owners are past due on taxes though.

 

[sundrop]

The owners bought the house in 2012 and live in Cary.

I'm not sure if it is or isn't. The owners are past due on taxes though.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I'm not sure if it is or isn't. The owners are past due on taxes though.

Aren't the taxes built into the mortgage?
(Just an aside)

I'm wondering how a person like NH finds a place to live or rather how he can afford to pay rent.

Oh sundrop says the owners bought the place in 2012. I wonder why they bought the place if they live in Cary and can't afford to pay taxes on the property. Could they be new owners and picked up a foreclosure?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Part 1 - Case study. Taken from a TV show Dead of Night episode, "Blood Never Lies".

Summer 2003 - Las Cruces, New Mexico - State University

First break - A couple is driving through the desert a couple miles from the town. The female passenger notices something odd and asks her partner to stop the car. He gets out and walks closer and sees the dead body of a female laying face down wearing only a top. Shaken, he returns to the vehicle and they call 911. Detectives arrive on the scene within an hour.

Second break - After processing the scene, covering the victim's hands with paper bags to preserve DNA that might be under the fingernails, taking castings of what appears to be the vehicle's tire tracks that dumped the body in the desert, and noting the perp tried to burn the body as evidenced by scorch marks on her back, they determine it looks as if it is a sexual assault crime. Not knowing the victim's identity yet, they find out a missing person report was filed that same morning (second break). The victim is 22 year old Katie Sepich, a graduate student at NM State, a lovely young woman who had the same boyfriend who she met and dated as an undergrad. After graduation he moved back home to help with his family business while she stayed on for grad school. They were still together and earlier he had bought her a diamond ring (it must have been a promise ring because they don't say they were engaged).

Within the first day of this case, LE has a missing person report, finds a body through curious civilians and discovers there's a match. LE can determine that point C (dump site) isn't the actual crime scene (which will be point B).

Why am I doing this? To show the disadvantage LE has when it comes to solving a case when there's no body. Even though I haven't touched on the investigation yet, imagine if the civilians hadn't noticed a body in the desert on the first day Katie was missing. If the body had been found later (not sure how many days - one or two months, less?), the DNA would be compromised or even nonexistent. Third break - LE was able to extract DNA from under her fingernails showing she had put up a fight. They also were able to collect evidence of the sexual assault which matched the DNA from under the fingernails. Now they know who they are looking for and can get a ethnicity profile of the person which narrows it down a little bit.

At this point in the investigation, in the order statistics usually suggest (I'm beginning to wonder about their accuracy these days), the significant other is first on LE's list when determining a suspect. You'll see why, especially in this case, this can be problematic if you're the significant other of someone who is found murdered.

 

[Portabella]

I saw the activity on this thread and had hopes something productive happened. Not that Nick got out and now sadly, there is nothing, just nothing... IMHO

 

[phantomthought]

Okay, we know that LE has made it clear that they think NH is at least somewhat involved in Kelli's disappearance, or at least has information that would be helpful to them. We can pretty much assume that they really do not have enough evidence, if any, to charge him with her disappearance, so what now? Does he just walk tomorrow? I would guess that LE will keep a very close eye on him at the very least. Does anyone think they may arrest him again on some sort of unrelated charge, just to keep him safely locked up while they buy more time in hopes of finding Kelli or getting enough real evidence to nail him?

In all of the time LE has had to investigate NH while he sat in jail I have not seen or heard where they have come up with one place to search related to him.With all of the man hrs. police spend on cases like this I sometimes wonder how they spend their time.

 

[VOH910]

In all of the time LE has had to investigate NH while he sat in jail I have not seen or heard where they have come up with one place to search related to him.With all of the man hrs. police spend on cases like this I sometimes wonder how they spend their time.

I def. understand your frustration, but this also isn't the only case they have had to work on. They have laws they have to abide by during the investigation process. It is frustrating though. I agree.

 

[reedus23]

It is my understanding, at some point NH stopped talking to LE. I wonder if LE has been refused permission to search any private area.

 

[lowes123]

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=9112440

 

[sundrop]

Army declares missing soldier Kelli Bordeaux dead

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=9112440

 

[lowes123]

It is my understanding, at some point NH stopped talking to LE. I wonder if LE has been refused permission to search any private area.

From what Det. Locklear said to the media, it was that they stopped talking to NH, not the other way around. That is just what I heard on the news.

 

[neverletgo]

Snipped from the links above:

The U.S. Army announced Wednesday it has declared missing soldier Kelli Bordeaux dead so that her family can collect benefits.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=9112440

 

[neverletgo]

Also snipped from the links above:

Military officials said the change in Bordeaux's status does not presume that she is actually deceased.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=9112440