GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #116

  • #341
Re the picture

It is not only the torso that looks bulky
but the area of hips and legs :rolleyes:

Honestly folks,
But maybe it is the angle of CCTV.
People look strange caught on such camera hahaha
I noticed he looked fatter when they showed him walking into Albertson's, the view from behind. At about 9:42 in the video, I think.

Seems like in his selfies, some with shirt off even, he looks too skinny, like almost anorexic or starved. That's not what I saw as he walked into Albertson's.
 
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  • #343
I'm sure you're right that the reason he was not allowed in was because of not having the card, BUT it's interesting that he was the ONLY person that the doorperson stopped on their way in! I went back to watch again to be sure, and she didn't stop a single person on their way in, except for him. Maybe she just recognized all the others or something, but I kinda doubt it.

Just found that very interesting!
Up until recently, all you had to do was hold your card in your hand and just walk straight in. That's all that was needed until you got to the register.
 
  • #344
He probably doesn't have a Costco card. You need one to get in the door.
Doesn't everyone and their brother know that you need a membership card to shop there? Since I think just about everyone knows that, I suspect that he was trying to sweet talk his way into the store when he stopped and was chatting up the door employee. Then that scowl on his face that we've all seen posted here was because he didn't get his (spoiled rotten) way. JMO!

So, if just about everyone knows you need a CostCo card to shop there (you actually don't need one to enter if you're there for prescriptions (I've done it multiple times), an eye exam (but need membership to buy glasses), and to purchase alcohol, although that might just be an Oregon thing since we're controlled by OLLC (Oregon Liquor Control Commission), (again, I've done it without a membership), and possibly more)...why did he want in? The only thing I can come up with is for the free food samples. JMO!
 
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  • #346
..why did he want in? The only thing I can come up with is for the free food samples. JMO!

Maybe he wanted to be caught on cameras. 🤔
For reasons known only to himself.

It is either the distorted image from CCTV
or he was wearing other clothes beneath.

For a seemingly anorexic person, he looks fat here IMO.
But I guess we will never know.
And it really doesn't matter any more.

But, on the other hand,
I remember my friend who once appeared on TV,
and she was aghast that camera gave her a few kilos 😁
She complained she looked twice her size on the screen 🤣

JMO
 
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  • #347
As I review the newly released videos, I can't help but to contrast them with AT's statements. He's innocent, richocheting in my head. He wasn't driving over there. It's not his car. There's seven minutes... that might be a thing... The representations that he's clumsy, feeble, incapable...

Yet he knew his way around Moscow, knew his way around the Internets, knew how to use VPNs and incognito mode and scrubber, a runner with an athletic build... with bushy brybrows...

Who drove a white Elantra whose path was captured nearly unbroken, with no front plate, circling... until it stopped between 4:09 and 4:20...

No more presumption, factually innocent of nothing.

Actually factually guilty. Actually factually guilty as hell.

Shopping for something to drink while... Murphy cowered under Kaylee's desk.

Murphy. More human than the murderer will ever be.

JMO
 
  • #348
But I remember my friend who once appeared on TV,
she was aghast that camera gave her a few kilos 😁
She complained she looked twice her size on the screen 🤣
Yes, people can appear larger in pics than in person, but we've never seen BK in person. We're noticing that he looks thin in a lot of his selfie's, yet he is looking like he's put on some weight in the CostCo photo, yet we know he hasn't.

Here's his hrs after the murders selfie

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And here he is at CostCo hrs after the murders wearing that same shirt:

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  • #349
IMO his chest and torso definitely look artificially bulked up by something under his clothes.
 
  • #350
Yes, people can appear larger in pics than in person, but we've never seen BK in person. We're noticing that he looks thin in a lot of his selfie's, yet he is looking like he's put on some weight in the CostCo photo, yet we know he hasn't.

Here's his hrs after the murders selfie

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And here he is at CostCo hrs after the murders wearing that same shirt:

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Looks like he has black latex or nitrile gloves hanging partially out of his back pocket on his right side. (More discernible in the Gray Hughes video than in the still photos, although can be partially seen in the bottom photo of your post.)
 
  • #351
Yes, people can appear larger in pics than in person, but we've never seen BK in person. We're noticing that he looks thin in a lot of his selfie's, yet he is looking like he's put on some weight in the CostCo photo, yet we know he hasn't.

Here's his hrs after the murders selfie

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And here he is at CostCo hrs after the murders wearing that same shirt:

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Is it even the same shirt?
It looks green on CCTV.

Are the colours THAT distorted?

Hmmm... 🤔
 
  • #352
Is it even the same shirt?
It looks green on CCTV.

Are the colours THAT distorted?

Hmmm... 🤔

I wonder if he got similar in different colors and switched (dirty/sweaty/coming down off a high). I have never known any human being to look so different and distorted in all my life. He never looks the same twice.

He has some muscle and obviously strength combined with enlarged man breasts and a wide waist, no glutes and I am still convinced he is malnourished in various ways (bulimia/pizza/enamel ripped off teeth to look yellowed permanently). BK is sort of engrossing, as a topic, because he is absolutely all over the place.

I cannot for the life of me imagine what the families must be thinking, if they've seen this. Or his family (albeit, they're probably not very objective). It does make your head spin.

When everything first happened, I wondered what kind of person could do this? My "make it make sense" moment.

A really messed up one, apparently. JMOO
 
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  • #353
Looks like he has black latex or nitrile gloves hanging partially out of his back pocket on his right side. (More discernible in the Gray Hughes video than in the still photos, although can be partially seen in the bottom photo of your post.)

Thanks for this! I noticed that something was up there and gloves would make sense. He seems rushed almost frantic just moving fast and I think meant to put them on. Interesting. JMOO
 
  • #354
Yes, people can appear larger in pics than in person, but we've never seen BK in person. We're noticing that he looks thin in a lot of his selfie's, yet he is looking like he's put on some weight in the CostCo photo, yet we know he hasn't.

Here's his hrs after the murders selfie

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And here he is at CostCo hrs after the murders wearing that same shirt:

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I wonder if the murderer photo shopped the hundreds of selfies for some reason? I do think he was anorexic/bulimic.

He definitely looks larger in photos and in person at arrest and the first hearings being filmed, than he appeared in his selfies. He did begin to look much thinner in person as time for trial grew closer though.

JMO
 
  • #355
Yes, you must scan your membership card or digital member ID when you enter Costco.
We just have to flash ours at the person standing at the entrance. Hubs forgot his and had let me off at the door and I just went in without thinking and the door monitor wouldn't let him in without his, we still laugh at that. I had to keep calling him asking him where he was. HAHAHAHAHA
 
  • #356
I’m fat and anorexic, so it’s a thing™️
All of this not to defend BK, but only because autism and ED are part of this case. We are, of course, discussing actual afflictions that affect plenty of non-murderers. So, I want to explain some things about the complexities of eating while autistic.

So, I think a lot of us vacillate between different types of disordered eating habits. This is another reason why I generally say i have “disordered eating” or “history of ED” rather than listing anorexia, binge eating, & ARFID. Especially since, to the uninitiated, it would seem these shouldn’t coexist in the same goofy human. ::Sigh:: But alas, they do.

In autistic circles, we talk about our “same food” or “safe food.” This refers to a food item we are unusually drawn to for a period of time, sometimes years. Sometimes they come and go, or suddenly become unappealing.
I have had healthy-ish same foods (roasted red pepper tomato soup & grilled cheese, kind bars, babybel cheese, pineapple +strawberries) and unhealthy ones (Cajun chicken alfredo, skittles littles, smores crepes).
With ARFID (and being vegan) it could be that the foods he tolerates, has access to, or seeks out are not very healthy. If he has a school meal plan or can’t leave campus for lunch, he may have found few ‘acceptable’ vegan options.
So, looking at those photos, I think he may be wearing something under the shirt… Or he may have been doing some stress eating. He may be or sticking to one or two particularly high calorie/fat foods (and gaining some weight like most of us do when we first go off to college, his belated “freshman 15”).

JMO and experience
 
  • #357
8 minute video

All the recently released Elantra videos played in succession.

No commentary. Warning: scary music

FWIW AT knew about all this footage when she presented the alibi-which-wasn't-one, when she put Sy Ray forth, with the supposed exculpatory footage that was lost to dishonest cops, withheld discovery, seven missing minutes that were never actually missing, all invented diversions from the DNA which implicated BK every day and twice on the judge's Sundays.

JMO

 
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